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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 30 @ 8:26 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Preseason Gameday: 9/30/2021 @ BOS https://www.joewatsonofficial.com/
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 30 @ 8:38 AM ET
Jay Farabee, the slower, older brother of Joel Farabee.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 30 @ 8:39 AM ET
need to bring back the waiver draft. Looking forward to the Nate-Laughton-NAK line. They can potentially do some damage. They complement each other well.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 30 @ 8:46 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Preseason Gameday: 9/30/2021 @ BOS
https://www.joewatsonofficial.com/

- bmeltzer

Severe right ankle sprain, geez. Bill why is Atkinson taking a maintenance day the second week of training camp, anything specific?
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Sep 30 @ 9:00 AM ET
Tanner Laczynski gone for the season? That sucks. I was looking forward to watching him play this season. Allison is another big loss for this team. The guy just can't stay healthy.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 30 @ 9:12 AM ET
Watched nj wash last night. Jersey won in regulation 5 4 but the teams played a shootout. Any idea why that was the case? Did the teams just decide that they wanted to do that amongst themselves? Ie why didn’t we do that Tuesday vs isles?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 30 @ 9:15 AM ET
Severe right ankle sprain, geez. Bill why is Atkinson taking a maintenance day the second week of training camp, anything specific?
- ClaudeFather


Obviously I don’t know much about it, but I always thought that a sever high ankle sprain just needed tons and tons of down time to recover. Bad soft tissue injury. I didn’t think surgery was a course of action for it unless stuff was torn outright.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 30 @ 9:16 AM ET
Jay Farabee, the slower, older brother of Joel Farabee.


- MBFlyerfan


No no. He’s our new 20 to 25 goal 3rd line centre haha
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Sep 30 @ 9:21 AM ET
Awful news on Allison and Laczynski. What is it with the Flyers prospects and severe injuries? I just don't get it.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 30 @ 9:25 AM ET
Obviously I don’t know much about it, but I always thought that a sever high ankle sprain just needed tons and tons of down time to recover. Bad soft tissue injury. I didn’t think surgery was a course of action for it unless stuff was torn outright.
- Hextall271

Yea same, one good thing about hockey is that your ankle has way less flexibility In the skate than a soccer or basketball player. That type of injury for them could cost you a season and then some of not fully healed.
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Sep 30 @ 9:33 AM ET
Cursed.

That's all I got
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 30 @ 9:39 AM ET
Wow, do I feel bad for Allison. With surgery this could be a multi-year road back to the NHL and he may never be the same. Just when things were looking up for him too. This sucks!
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 30 @ 9:39 AM ET
Yea same, one good thing about hockey is that your ankle has way less flexibility In the skate than a soccer or basketball player. That type of injury for them could cost you a season and then some of not fully healed.
- ClaudeFather


Yeah. Hope he can make it back. Not even in a reg season game ffs not that it’s ever good to have an injury.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 30 @ 9:40 AM ET
Watched nj wash last night. Jersey won in regulation 5 4 but the teams played a shootout. Any idea why that was the case? Did the teams just decide that they wanted to do that amongst themselves? Ie why didn’t we do that Tuesday vs isles?
- Hextall271

Yes the teams can decide whether they want to practice the shootout any way, even if one team scores in the OT.
Nh_kong
Joined: 09.21.2020

Sep 30 @ 9:49 AM ET
Tough break for Tanner.

Hopefully Allison won't be out for several months.......I was looking forward to seeing him in regular rotation this year.

jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Sep 30 @ 9:55 AM ET
I'm bringing this topic forward from the previous post because I think its an important topic to discuss:

The argument was points, not goals. So lets compare two players in ES scoring for the past two seasons. The Flyers big free agent acquisition for 7.1M Kevin Hayes has scored 20 goals and 44 points in 124 games played. Scott Laughton in the same time frame, in 102 games played. 22 less games than Hayes, put up 19 goals and 41 points.
If we look at rates over the past two seasons, Laughton has scored at a rate of 1.93 P/60 at ES. Claude Giroux in the same time frame has scored at a rate of 1.84 P/60

- MJL

Here if why IMO you can't just look at advanced metrics to base decisions around how good player is. You need to balance it with scouting and observation. Clearly Scott Laughton is not anywhere near the level of a Giroux or even a Kevin Hayes. He is a bottom 6 forward and we have seen when he is asked to play in the top 6 he is very ineffective.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 30 @ 9:55 AM ET
Awful news on Allison and Laczynski. What is it with the Flyers prospects and severe injuries? I just don't get it.

- Letterkenney

mcrossin....
DarthProbert
Joined: 06.29.2016

Sep 30 @ 10:05 AM ET
I don't get it. Ristolainen needs to have top PP time to have any value to a team. Philly picks him up and he could be lucky to be 4th for PP time after Yandle, Provorov, and Ellis. So he'll get defensive assignments, suck, and crater the team and his own career.
atibus
Joined: 06.23.2011

Sep 30 @ 10:09 AM ET
https://www.espn.com/nhl/injuries

It's not just the Flyers. People get injured playing hockey. Why is this shocking to anyone?

They're not cursed. Getting struck by lightning 7 times is cursed. See Roy Sullivan - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Sullivan
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Sep 30 @ 10:12 AM ET
I don't get it. Ristolainen needs to have top PP time to have any value to a team. Philly picks him up and he could be lucky to be 4th for PP time after Yandle, Provorov, and Ellis. So he'll get defensive assignments, suck, and crater the team and his own career.
- DarthProbert


Ristolainen hasn’t even played an exhibition game yet.

Love the optimism.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 30 @ 10:16 AM ET
Yes the teams can decide whether they want to practice the shootout any way, even if one team scores in the OT.
- jd250


Hadn’t heart that. Thanks.

Of note. We should be practicing the shootout until they shut the lights off in the rink ffs.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 30 @ 10:19 AM ET
Ristolainen hasn’t even played an exhibition game yet.

Love the optimism.

- Djapana


Or. He could play 2nd pair and get better matchups and succeed, grow his confidence and help the team and sign an extension.

Wouldn’t the plan be to have Ellis run pp1. Yandle pp2 and the odd time we need him bring risto in for yandle?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 30 @ 10:21 AM ET
https://www.espn.com/nhl/injuries

It's not just the Flyers. People get injured playing hockey. Why is this shocking to anyone?

They're not cursed. Getting struck by lightning 7 times is cursed. See Roy Sullivan - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Sullivan

- atibus


I’ve never thought we were worse off than other teams. Just seems that way because it’s happening to us. I have heard it said that players now train non stop all year whereas in the olden days they’d take time off snd use the training camp to get into shape. The new players are more fit no question but it may take a toll.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 30 @ 10:27 AM ET
Ristolainen hasn’t even played an exhibition game yet.

Love the optimism.

- Djapana

The fancy charts really speak to him.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 30 @ 10:28 AM ET
I'm bringing this topic forward from the previous post because I think its an important topic to discuss:


Here if why IMO you can't just look at advanced metrics to base decisions around how good player is. You need to balance it with scouting and observation. Clearly Scott Laughton is not anywhere near the level of a Giroux or even a Kevin Hayes. He is a bottom 6 forward and we have seen when he is asked to play in the top 6 he is very ineffective.

- jd250

This has been beaten to death, thanks for bringing it back up.
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