Mike Augello
Commissioner Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.25.2006
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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for me, it was pretty simple.. Demko came up big when needed, and Campbell didn't.. The Leafs put in a great effort but were outgoalied... |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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From the last blog. Someone may find it interesting, or provide different context in how you evaluate this type of thing.
Has Campbell been over-coached? (is Steve Briere poison?)
- mjones242
Just to zero in on this question - because I'm sure a lot of us wonder what's going on with the Leafs' goalie coach. My only familiarity with him was watching Keefe cuss him out in last year's Amazon special, "Nothing", about them losing again; there was no 'All' so we can just cut to the chase.
I started looking at goalies year-by-year to see if they were better or worse with the new goalie coach, but that's a difficult metric because personnel and coaching changes. NHL goalies are inherently good, but is there any objective metric that would indicate if the goalie coach was having a positive impact? The only thing I could think of that was a possible indicator was the team's GSAA which measures expected goals against compared to actual goals against based on the quality of shots and the conditions under which they are faced.
2014/15: -12.5 (xGA: 29th; GA: 27th) <-- Before Briere; Carlyle/Horachek coaching
15/16: -25.05 (xGA: 14th; GA: 24th) <-- Briere hired; Babcock coaching
16/17: -2.83 (xGA: 25th; GA: 22nd)
17/18: 14.95 (xGA: 25th; GA: 12th)
18/19: -13.74 (xGA: 22nd; GA: 20th)
19/20: -26.49 (xGA: 16th; GA: 26th) <-- Babcock replaced by Keefe after 23 games
20/21: -11.68 (xGA: 6th; GA: 8th)
21/22: -16.16 (xGA: 5th; GA: 17th)
Looking more closely at 2019/20 as well, you can see that coaching does have a direct impact:
Babcock: -10.39 (xGA: 24th; GA: 24th)
Keefe: -16.1 (xGA: 9th; GA: 17th)
If we can accept that while xGA isn't a perfect metric, it is a solid comparative tool to look at how well a team plays in all situations. I am on record as believing that not all HD shots are equal and some MD shots are worse than MD shots because guys just get too much space. The Leafs are definitely guilty of poor gap control which likely reflects in a higher xGA than we see. Ultimately, however, this team is playing a style that is conducive to a much better goals against average and save percentage than they are getting. If it's the personnel, then make a move. If it's not the personnel, then it's the goalie coach - and in all but one year, the expected goals against are always less than the actual goals against. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Adding a damn good D-man improves the D and goaltending. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Adding a damn good D-man improves the D and goaltending. - GreatGigInTheSky
Can I get a backcheck brother? |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Can I get a backcheck brother? - AdamFrench
Let's just blame Nick Robertson, because he's not as good as his brother |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Let's just blame Nick Robertson, because he's not as good as his brother - PatC80
Man...what a (frank)ing steal that Jason kid is. Good thing he was 5'10 in his draft year and now is 6'3 somehow. Yeesh.
Glad he will hold out and sign for cheap to play with his bro. |
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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for me, it was pretty simple.. Demko came up big when needed, and Campbell didn't.. The Leafs put in a great effort but were outgoalied... - PatC80
Leafs were ahead 4-3 starting the third. Shots were 11-3 (in favour of the Leafs) in the first 10 minutes of the third and the score was 5-4 for the Nucks. It wasn't just awful goaltending it was also timing. Leafs worked their balls off in the 2nd to get the lead. Then Cambell was grasping for his throat at the start of the third. Please don't tell me it was defense. The save % of .821 for that game sucks ass big time.
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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Adding a damn good D-man improves the D and goaltending. - GreatGigInTheSky
Technically yes.
But JC and Mrazek combined have been the worst goalies since December, that says a lot. Leafs have good underlying numbers on D as well...which at the very least shows that we need to point some fingers at goaltending here and ask ourselves if there needs to be an upgrade. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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https://twitter.com/FAN590/status/1500841170984919041?cxt=HHwWgoCzzfvFh9QpAAAA
I think Frank is right...Just am not sure if Dubas thinks the same. - Santo_44
It's time someone in the NHL finally tries putting a sumo wrestler in net. |
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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It's time someone in the NHL finally tries putting a sumo wrestler in net. - Atomic Wedgie
Maybe a super hero called Velcro Man that doesn't give up Grade AAA juicy rebounds.
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Can I get a backcheck brother? - AdamFrench
Nah. poop's tiring. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Technically yes.
But JC and Mrazek combined have been the worst goalies since December, that says a lot. Leafs have good underlying numbers on D as well...which at the very least shows that we need to point some fingers at goaltending here and ask ourselves if there needs to be an upgrade. - Santo_44
So if/when Campbell gets his head straightened out, the addition of a damn good D-man will look even better. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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So if/when Campbell gets his head straightened out, the addition of a damn good D-man will look even better. - GreatGigInTheSky
Big if. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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It's time someone in the NHL finally tries putting a sumo wrestler in net. - Atomic Wedgie
There has to be a human being out there that could fill the net, is that illegal? |
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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So if/when Campbell gets his head straightened out, the addition of a damn good D-man will look even better. - GreatGigInTheSky
Agree
BTW - back leading the Gilmour division in the HB pool. 2nd overall in the League. |
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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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Can I get a backcheck brother? - AdamFrench
JT Miller can backcheck. |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Begin year - very little traffic/deflections
Now - lots of traffic/deflections
As bad as Muzz has been this year, they miss him greatly.
GLG |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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So if/when Campbell gets his head straightened out, the addition of a damn good D-man will look even better. - GreatGigInTheSky
Trumps out of office. Can they re-hire that goalie coach who he personally credits turning him around mentally again? |
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Begin year - very little traffic/deflections
Now - lots of traffic/deflections
As bad as Muzz has been this year, they miss him greatly.
GLG - Garnie
Campbell allowed 5 goals on 28 shots. Maybe if the Leafs improved their defense and only allowed 15 shots per game we could get the goals against under 3
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Trumps out of office. Can they re-hire that goalie coach who he personally credits turning him around mentally again? - AdamFrench
Red Kelly and pyramid power are not available.
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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Begin year - very little traffic/deflections
Now - lots of traffic/deflections
As bad as Muzz has been this year, they miss him greatly.
GLG - Garnie
JC doesn't seem to be in near as a good a position for those deflections, as he was early in the year. He and the other fella have sucked positionally. Just my observation. I know his stats suck too, no need to look at those. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Big if. - Santo_44
I'd say a medium sized if. |
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