Eklund: Peopke Need to Admit Phil Kessel a Hall of Famer? Yes.

Hot dog.

Eklund: Peopke Need to Admit Phil Kessel a Hall of Famer? Yes.
- Eklund

Who is peopke?

And no I don’t think Kessel is there just yet. But he’s not done yet.

Who is peopke?

And no I don’t think Kessel is there just yet. But he’s not done yet.
- TurdFergeson

the guy is a Jedi, show him some respect

Who is peopke?

And no I don’t think Kessel is there just yet. But he’s not done yet.
- TurdFergeson

if you start comparing him to other names that are in there, you could justify him being in. But he doesn't really belong there.

Great player, great character, not a HOFer IMO.

the guy is a Jedi, show him some respect


- Symba007

That’s edited footage. The real footage takes him out of HOF conversation.

That’s edited footage. The real footage takes him out of HOF conversation.


- TurdFergeson

Now I know why people always called him a clutch goal scorer

I don't think he belongs, but I'd put him in before Toews.

Anybody worth two 1sts and a 2nd deserves to be in

I don't think he belongs, but I'd put him in before Toews.
- jfkst1

well, that's about one of the worst takes i've ever heard. pull your head out your bum.

well, that's about one of the worst takes i've ever heard. pull your head out your bum.
- prock

Most overrated player in NHL history. Never the best player on his own team. Never a top 3 player at his own position. Poor longevity as well. Played on stacked teams.

free country, don't have to admit anything

Eklund: Peopke Need to Admit Phil Kessel a Hall of Famer? Yes.
- Eklund

yes....the hot dog eating HOF, Joey Chestnut has nothing on him

Most overrated player in NHL history. Never the best player on his own team. Never a top 3 player at his own position. Poor longevity as well. Played on stacked teams.
- jfkst1

All of those things can be said about several players that are in the HOF.

Rick Martin is 50th all time for PPG and Kessel isn’t even close to that. He’s a scorer but doesn’t have 400 goals. Never scored over 37 goals in a season. Got 90 points once and 80 twice. Outstanding career but no HOFer.

All of those things can be said about several players that are in the HOF.
- TurdFergeson

I didn't say he wouldn't get in. I said he doesn't deserve to.

Most overrated player in NHL history. Never the best player on his own team. Never a top 3 player at his own position. Poor longevity as well. Played on stacked teams.
- jfkst1

No, he really isn't. At his peak, he was scoring a point per game, and one of the best defensive forwards in the game. that's a lethal combination. He was absolutely a top 5 NHLer for a time. He signed that contract, his play fell off a bit, and he became fans favourite whipping boy.

As far as the HOF goes, he was the captain of one of the NHLs most successful teams, 3 STanley Cups, a Conn Smythe, a Selke.

Regardless of you may think of him, his RESUME easily puts him in the HOF. Its really not close either.

But to say Kessel deserves it more is just plain dumb. Toews, as a 2 way centres, has only 40 goals less than Kessel, a sniping winger. So, the one, just one, single dimension that Kessel is better than Toews at, he really isn't that much better.

Most overrated player in NHL history. Never the best player on his own team. Never a top 3 player at his own position. Poor longevity as well. Played on stacked teams.
- jfkst1

overated ? Maybe a bit.

but to call a guy with 3 Stanley cups and 119 career playoff point most overated of alltime is pretty far fetch

No, he really isn't. At his peak, he was scoring a point per game, and one of the best defensive forwards in the game. that's a lethal combination. He was absolutely a top 5 NHLer for a time. He signed that contract, his play fell off a bit, and he became fans favourite whipping boy.

As far as the HOF goes, he was the captain of one of the NHLs most successful teams, 3 STanley Cups, a Conn Smythe, a Selke.

Regardless of you may think of him, his RESUME easily puts him in the HOF. Its really not close either.

But to say Kessel deserves it more is just plain dumb. Toews, as a 2 way centres, has only 40 goals less than Kessel, a sniping winger. So, the one, just one, single dimension that Kessel is better than Toews at, he really isn't that much better.
- prock

This and his prime, probably way more of a complete player than Kane

Also, Captain and stuff

overated ? Maybe a bit.

but to call a guy with 3 Stanley cups and 119 career playoff point most overated of alltime is pretty far fetch
- Xizord

"never the best player on his own team".

uhh, okay, leading his team in points as a two way centre, to their 1st cup, and winning the conn smythe, says he was likely better in those playoffs. Rather conclusively, in fact. Even if the guy wants to argue that was the only time, I would say it's impossible to argue otherwise (and that's a rather key period I think).

This and his prime, probably way more of a complete player than Kane

Also, Captain and stuff

- Xizord

In his prime he was better than Kane. Kane got better, Toews declined a bit. but people have short memories. And that contract seemed to make mocking him the cool thing to do.

Make no mistake, the guy was an absolute force for about 3-4 years.

I didn't say he wouldn't get in. I said he doesn't deserve to.
- jfkst1

So what is your criteria for getting into the HOF?

So what is your criteria for getting into the HOF?
- glove_was_stuck

I mean, the HOF doesnt have a meme section, and it could definitely use one. Who better to start it off than the king of hockey memes.

This one has to be the entrance to his own wing of the HHOF:

John Tonelli HOF

Eklund: Peopke Need to Admit Phil Kessel a Hall of Famer? Yes.
- Eklund

Hard no.

Looking strictly at offense, in terms of his era-adjusted production at both peak and longevity, Kessel's numbers are at best borderline for the Hall. He's in that zone where some guys get in (Alfresson, Hossa) and some guys don't (Roenick, Tkachuk, Theo Fleury).

If Phil were an elite defensive player, or even just a really good one, he'd have an argument. Except the opposite is true. He's one of the weakest defensive forwards in the NHL and has been for years, giving a lot of that offensive value right back to the other team. That's why guys like Datsyuk, Toews, and Bergeron are strong bets to get in and Phil is not.

Borderline-Hall-at-best offense plus atrocious, far-below-replacement-level defense should leave Phil well short of the Hall.