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Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Aug 15 @ 9:24 AM ET
Karine Hains: In Hainsight: Canadiens Open for Business Word is Kent Hughes is willing to trade a goaltender, which one? That’s not entirely clear.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Aug 15 @ 9:32 AM ET
If someone would dummy down this trade for Petry for me, that would be appreciated..
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 15 @ 9:35 AM ET
If someone would dummy down this trade for Petry for me, that would be appreciated..
- pete26


Habs got rid of Hoffman (a completely worthless player) and Pitlick (guy that can't crack the lineup) in exchange for Petry with a reduced salary that, especially if they keep another % of his now reduced salary, should have alot more value on the market than Hoffman ever could.

They also got DeSmith who will end up either getting traded or act as an insurance for depth at the position if Primeau (or DeSmith himself) get picked off waivers when the Habs begin the season with Montembault and Allen as goaltenders.

Oh and we got a 2nd rounder to boot!

It's a trade where we gave up nothing of value and got something decent that should bring even more down the line.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Aug 15 @ 9:42 AM ET
Habs got rid of Hoffman (a completely worthless player) and Pitlick (guy that can't crack the lineup) in exchange for Petry with a reduced salary that, especially if they keep another % of his now reduced salary, should have alot more value on the market than Hoffman ever could.

They also got DeSmith who will end up either getting traded or act as an insurance for depth at the position if Primeau (or DeSmith himself) get picked off waivers when the Habs begin the season with Montembault and Allen as goaltenders.

Oh and we got a 2nd rounder to boot!

It's a trade where we gave up nothing of value and got something decent that should bring even more down the line.

- Scabeh


What about the money?

Hoffman had a year left, Petry has two..
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 15 @ 9:43 AM ET
What about the money?

Hoffman had a year left, Petry has two..

- pete26


Yes but Petry won't be staying. At least not the whole two years.

Habs still have around 5-6M of cap space after the trade and can eat part of Petry's salary if they need to.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 15 @ 9:50 AM ET
canada, good morning!
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Aug 15 @ 9:50 AM ET
Yes but Petry won't be staying. At least not the whole two years.

Habs still have around 5-6M of cap space after the trade and can eat part of Petry's salary if they need to.

- Scabeh


A Hoffman buyout would have been less complicated, no?
Molsonsman
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MB
Joined: 08.29.2017

Aug 15 @ 9:51 AM ET
I think Scabeh lays it out rather well. What also be a factor is we opened up an important forward position for youth. Now Pitlick also is factored into another position, but more of a press box presence if anything.

Hoffman had a year on a $4.5m salary with Pitlick's mere $1.1m. Petry has two years but as a RD, where we lack experience i feel was a great move. So financially we basically stayed status quo until DeSmith and/or Petry go.

I would like to see DeSmith move, we'll get a late pick for him, and keep Petry until the trade deadline where his value, unless injured or craps the bed completely, is best. We should be able to get a first for him. Especially if we keep some of his pay for the next two years.

I see this a a win win. What I'm worried about are the fools in the stands giving Petry a hard time when/if he hits the ice under CH logo. Not saying he's not deserving, but habs fans can be the worst.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 15 @ 9:53 AM ET
A Hoffman buyout would have been less complicated, no?
- pete26


Less complicated, certainly.

But a Hoffman buyout wouldn't have given us any assets in return.

A Petry at 2.3M (if we retain maximum salary for two years) could/should bring back something decent. I know he's not your favorite but he's a RHD that can play around 20 min. That's worth something.
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Aug 15 @ 9:56 AM ET
I think Scabeh lays it out rather well. What also be a factor is we opened up an important forward position for youth. Now Pitlick also is factored into another position, but more of a press box presence if anything.

Hoffman had a year on a $4.5m salary with Pitlick's mere $1.1m. Petry has two years but as a RD, where we lack experience i feel was a great move. So financially we basically stayed status quo until DeSmith and/or Petry go.

I would like to see DeSmith move, we'll get a late pick for him, and keep Petry until the trade deadline where his value, unless injured or craps the bed completely, is best. We should be able to get a first for him. Especially if we keep some of his pay for the next two years.

I see this a a win win. What I'm worried about are the fools in the stands giving Petry a hard time when/if he hits the ice under CH logo. Not saying he's not deserving, but habs fans can be the worst.

- Molsonsman


I agree with all that Scabeh and you said. Gotta trade Petry or he's 100% going to be a distraction
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Aug 15 @ 9:57 AM ET
Less complicated, certainly.

But a Hoffman buyout wouldn't have given us any assets in return.

A Petry at 2.3M (if we retain maximum salary for two years) could/should bring back something decent. I know he's not your favorite but he's a RHD that can play around 20 min. That's worth something.

- Scabeh

You're worth something.

You are.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Aug 15 @ 9:58 AM ET
Open like 7/11
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Aug 15 @ 9:59 AM ET
Less complicated, certainly.

But a Hoffman buyout wouldn't have given us any assets in return.

A Petry at 2.3M (if we retain maximum salary for two years) could/should bring back something decent. I know he's not your favorite but he's a RHD that can play around 20 min. That's worth something.

- Scabeh

Pete still wears his Habs #26 jersey proudly!
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 15 @ 10:05 AM ET
Open like 7/11
- Symba007

hey where have you been?
Frozendisc
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Boise, ID
Joined: 08.22.2018

Aug 15 @ 10:07 AM ET
Keep Monty as your starter, then trade any one of the remaining three.....

Taking Petry back in exchange for losing Hoffman and Pitlick is genius.....
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Aug 15 @ 10:12 AM ET
If someone would dummy down this trade for Petry for me, that would be appreciated..
- pete26


Habs took on money to help the Pens, got a 2nd round pick, a prospect, Petry (at 75% of salary) and DeSmith. They also got rid of Hoffman and Pitlick to open forward slots for for younger players, without eating any contract money.

Now they have a glut on defence and goal, that needs to be addressed.

Pens could not trade Petry to the Sharks directly, as speculation that team was on his no trade list, so they needed a 3rd team. Guess Petry never aded Montreal to his list, as he figured he would never get traded back there.

HuGo pounced.

The Habs did pretty good, getting better/more valuable assets to trade. Petry and DeSmith likely flipped before the start of the season for more assets at some point (I know losing Petry a second time will really crush your heart beyond words, Pete).
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Aug 15 @ 10:14 AM ET
A Hoffman buyout would have been less complicated, no?
- pete26


You get a 2nd now, plus whatever you can get for Petry and deSmith, likely at least another 2nd in there somewhere.

And you did not have to buy out anyone... not sure they could at this point anyways, the windows are closed.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Aug 15 @ 10:18 AM ET
Less complicated, certainly.

But a Hoffman buyout wouldn't have given us any assets in return.

A Petry at 2.3M (if we retain maximum salary for two years) could/should bring back something decent. I know he's not your favorite but he's a RHD that can play around 20 min. That's worth something.

- Scabeh


So, 2 things.

He could mentor the young d if he stays, or get a decent return at yet another reduced salary.

Got it.

*stays tuned*
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 15 @ 10:23 AM ET
bon tintamarre à tous!
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 15 @ 10:24 AM ET
So, 2 things.

He could mentor the young d if he stays, or get a decent return at yet another reduced salary.

Got it.

*stays tuned*

- pete26

very good trade, once again
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Aug 15 @ 10:27 AM ET
hey where have you been?
- kicksave856

Vacation with the family. Came back last weekend.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Aug 15 @ 10:29 AM ET
very good trade, once again
- fidopro

I think the Habs could get a prospect or 2nd round pick if they trade Petry and retain another 50% salary. That would bring his cap hit at 2.35M, he becomes attractive for some teams at that point. One challenge though is his 15 teams no trade list as we discussed yesterday.

Still a great gamble by HuGo....and they already got a 2nd for the 2025 draft.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 15 @ 10:29 AM ET
Vacation with the family. Came back last weekend.
- Symba007

oh, well that is nice. but let me know next time you disappear. you know how i worry!
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Aug 15 @ 10:34 AM ET
I think the Habs could get a prospect or 2nd round pick if they trade Petry and retain another 50% salary. That would bring his cap hit at 2.35M, he becomes attractive for some teams at that point. One challenge though is his 15 teams no trade list as we discussed yesterday.

Still a great gamble by HuGo....and they already got a 2nd for the 2025 draft.

- Symba007

I would expect a 2nd without having to retain. more if they do.
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Aug 15 @ 10:36 AM ET
Vacation with the family. Came back last weekend.
- Symba007

You survived
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