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What! Jordan Greenway on the 1st line. Who’s this Morgan Frost guy playing twice in a row?

What! Jordan Greenway on the 1st line. Who’s this Morgan Frost guy playing twice in a row?
- Minnyhock

With his faceoff performance the other night, why is he playing?

With his faceoff performance the other night, why is he playing?

- MJL

Because Laughton has stapled himself to the Wells Fargo floor. He refuses to stand.

From spectors:
https://www.spectorshocke...mor-mill-october-31-2023/

THE FLYERS AREN’T TRYING TO TRADE FROST

THE ATHLETIC: Kevin Kurz reports a league source informed him that the Philadelphia Flyers aren’t trying to trade Morgan Frost. The 24-year-old forward was a healthy scratch for six straight games before returning to the lineup on Monday.

Kurz indicates that Frost handled being scratched the right way and has been a good teammate throughout that period. The Flyers still view him as one of the young players they want to grow with this rebuilding team. They will give him every opportunity to become a productive player.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Frost is in the first season of a two-year, $4.2 million contract. He enjoyed a career-best 46-point performance last season. Kurz acknowledged that things could change but for now, the Flyers have no intention of moving Frost.

I am definitely in the camp of Frost needs to be here and play. He needs to be given the opportunity to be creative, and not dwell on mistakes. I think he is a perfect talent for the second line, once Cutter and MM arrive.

With his faceoff performance the other night, why is he playing?
- MJL

So you are going to embarrass yourself yet again and tell everyone here that Frost is fine on faceoffs? That he has nothing to improve upon? Let's see, 3 games, 0 points and a 29 percent FO% .. hmmm ... ya ... he is perfectly fine. Oh! That's right. We have a new excuse for Frosty .. sample size ... of course ... forgot about that one.

From spectors:
https://www.spectorshocke...mor-mill-october-31-2023/


I am definitely in the camp of Frost needs to be here and play. He needs to be given the opportunity to be creative, and not dwell on mistakes. I think he is a perfect talent for the second line, once Cutter and MM arrive.
- TheFreak

So Kurz contradicts himself in his own article? A league source says the Flyers are trying trade Frost but then acknowledges the Flyers have no intention of moving Frost. Ya, this guy is a credible source!

Because Laughton has stapled himself to the Wells Fargo floor. He refuses to stand.
- MBFlyerfan

I'll post it again, Briere should have traded Laughton this past off-season when his value would never be higher. With Couts and Cam coming back, Frost resigned, Staal and Hathaway signed and a commitment to play the kids, there was absolutely nothing to gain by keeping Laughton around. This team has more than enough "veteran" leadership.

So Kurz contradicts himself in his own article? A league source says the Flyers are trying trade Frost but then acknowledges the Flyers have no intention of moving Frost. Ya, this guy is a credible source!
- jd250

It actually says:
THE ATHLETIC: Kevin Kurz reports a league source informed him that the Philadelphia Flyers aren’t trying to trade Morgan Frost.
No contradiction.

So you are going to embarrass yourself yet again and tell everyone here that Frost is fine on faceoffs? That he has nothing to improve upon? Let's see, 3 games, 0 points and a 29 percent FO% .. hmmm ... ya ... he is perfectly fine. Oh! That's right. We have a new excuse for Frosty .. sample size ... of course ... forgot about that one.
- jd250

What crawled up your ass about Frost?

I will give every playe4 a pass on the first game or two of the season.

In the third game I thought he played really well besides the face offs. I am curious to see how other centers have done when going against Staal.

Frost played better than the guy that he replaced.

So you are going to embarrass yourself yet again and tell everyone here that Frost is fine on faceoffs? That he has nothing to improve upon? Let's see, 3 games, 0 points and a 29 percent FO% .. hmmm ... ya ... he is perfectly fine. Oh! That's right. We have a new excuse for Frosty .. sample size ... of course ... forgot about that one.
- jd250

No, I'm just going to let you further embarrass yourself with your response here showing that the comment went right past you.

So Kurz contradicts himself in his own article? A league source says the Flyers are trying trade Frost but then acknowledges the Flyers have no intention of moving Frost. Ya, this guy is a credible source!
- jd250

Speaking of embarrassing yourself. You should re-read what was posted.

You step in it every single day. It's astonishing.

So you are going to embarrass yourself yet again and tell everyone here that Frost is fine on faceoffs? That he has nothing to improve upon? Let's see, 3 games, 0 points and a 29 percent FO% .. hmmm ... ya ... he is perfectly fine. Oh! That's right. We have a new excuse for Frosty .. sample size ... of course ... forgot about that one.
- jd250

LOL.

Yep, you used 3 games as proof he was regressing over the course of THREE seasons. even though he markedly improved over the course of last season.

Not once did anyone say Frost was fine on faceoffs. NOT...ONCE.

We just simply wont stand for this kind of disingenuous behavior from you. (see what I did there?)

FROST SUCKS!!!

LOL.

Yep, you used 3 games as proof he was regressing over the course of THREE seasons. even though he markedly improved over the course of last season.

Not once did anyone say Frost was fine on faceoffs. NOT...ONCE.

We just simply wont stand for this kind of disingenuous behavior from you. (see what I did there?)
- MBFlyerfan

The problem is he is not being disingenuous.

Starting to get the feeling that half of you are just AI bots arguing with each other for site engagement...

(maybe more than half)

Time for Frost to get on the board tonight. Getting tired of hearing about how great he is playing and yet I see goose eggs in the scoring column. You don't get style points! Time to put up or shut up cause Torts is watchin you!

Starting to get the feeling that half of you are just AI bots arguing with each other for site engagement...

(maybe more than half)
- Tomahawk

lol...Eklunds not smart enough to get that setup...

Time for Frost to get on the board tonight. Getting tired of hearing about how great he is playing and yet I see goose eggs in the scoring column. You don't get style points! Time to put up or shut up cause Torts is watchin you!
- Phillywhiteout

This is exactly it. A perfect example. He leads the team in scoring over a 56 game period. For those that don't know, that means that he scored more points over that stretch of games than any other player on the team. He led the team for the entire season in even strength points last season. For those of you who don't know, that means that he scored more points than any other player on the team at ES last season. Yet, you're tired of seeing goose eggs in the scoring column and you don't get style points. Time to put up or shut up. Interesting and comical at the same time.

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Why do the Flyers do this to themselves??

Time for Frost to get on the board tonight. Getting tired of hearing about how great he is playing and yet I see goose eggs in the scoring column. You don't get style points! Time to put up or shut up cause Torts is watchin you!
- Phillywhiteout

if he plays like he did in the 3rd the other night everything else will fall inline. He was far better in that period than he has been since last spring. He just needs to keep his legs moving. His defensive side of the game is fine and who cares about draws this early in his career.. have him move in w selke and they can practice faceoffs in his basement. the guy is going to be a good middle six, creative player which is exactly what this team needs.

I'll post it again, Briere should have traded Laughton this past off-season when his value would never be higher. With Couts and Cam coming back, Frost resigned, Staal and Hathaway signed and a commitment to play the kids, there was absolutely nothing to gain by keeping Laughton around. This team has more than enough "veteran" leadership.
- jd250

that offer was supposedly there at the deadline not this offseason. i think Danny pulls the trigger if so. Unfortunately, we still had numbnuts as our gm at the deadline.

Starting to get the feeling that half of you are just AI bots arguing with each other for site engagement...

(maybe more than half)
- Tomahawk

You're a poo poo head. Fight me.

FROST SUCKS!!!
- Phillywhiteout

I thought he looked good in the pre season…I didn’t thing he was particularly bad in the first two games, and I thought he was really good in the last half of Monday’s game. I think that’s why some get frustrated with his 6 game banishment as they see the Flyers as an “all hands on deck” team. Scoring needs to come from everywhere. When you take a bullet out of the gun for that long, it is a head scratcher.
I know they want Foerster and Brink in the lineup and there’s only so many spots to go around but they had a 4th line that struggled for 2-3 games that got nothing done. I called for the demotion of Laughton and the sitting of Poehling a week ago to get frost back in. He finally listened.

What crawled up your ass about Frost?

I will give every playe4 a pass on the first game or two of the season.

In the third game I thought he played really well besides the face offs. I am curious to see how other centers have done when going against Staal.

Frost played better than the guy that he replaced.
- WhiskeyMan

I like Frost, I just can't stand the people on this forum constantly making excuses for him. I can't even compliment him while also raising a concern that he is not good on faceoffs. Some people on here go ballistic if you say anything negative about the sacred cow. I have stated many times Frost should not have been taken out of the lineup, that it seems there is something personal there between Torts and Frost and that his 3rd period the other night was nothing short of dazzling. But yet I criticize one aspect of this game and people get all up and arms about it. Geez ...