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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 19 @ 12:33 PM ET
Eklund: Are the Flyers Buyers? How much money is out there?
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jan 19 @ 12:39 PM ET
Where are these cap space figures coming from? Looks wildly inaccurate.
https://www.capfriendly.com/
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 19 @ 12:43 PM ET
Eklund: Are the Flyers Buyers? How much money is out there?
- Eklund



ForeverFlyer16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lou Nolan for Flyers Hall of Fame , NJ
Joined: 11.03.2006

Jan 19 @ 12:56 PM ET
Possibly prorated amounts... showing the full season cap of players, maybe?... flyers could bring in $23M worth of players? Just a thought.

As long as Danny Briere could bring in veteran supplementary players at very lower prices -- late round picks -- I'm okay with it... it's good for the fan base, young players on the team... and to bring on revenue for the organization for use going forward; PO revenue is important for a team, and has not been available for all too long. That said, I wouldn't be okay with higher picks, which could hinder the rebuild/future.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 19 @ 12:58 PM ET
Possibly prorated amounts... showing the full season cap of players, maybe?... flyers could bring in $23M worth of players? Just a thought.

As long as Danny Briere could bring in veteran supplementary players at very lower prices -- late round picks -- I'm okay with it... it's good for the fan base, young players on the team... and to bring on revenue for the organization for use going forward; PO revenue is important for a team, and has not been available for all too long. That said, I wouldn't be okay with higher picks, which could hinder the rebuild/future.

- ForeverFlyer16

That is what the deadline cap hit is and it's exceptionally far from that $23M number

Also, $23M in cap space would mean they were below the $61.7M cap floor
a1xfreakx13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 02.24.2016

Jan 19 @ 1:12 PM ET
Stay the course this rebuild is long overdue. briere will do the right thing he seems to be a very good hockey mind in the right position, Rooting for the flyers to get it right.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jan 19 @ 1:16 PM ET
Stay the course this rebuild is long overdue. briere will do the right thing he seems to be a very good hockey mind in the right position, Rooting for the flyers to get it right.
- a1xfreakx13


Correct, Flyers are playing with house money .
Cooleus
Joined: 04.13.2021

Jan 19 @ 1:17 PM ET
With $23M to spend, if I was the Flyers I would probably trade picks and go all in right now. My shopping list:

Hanifin - $4.95M (solidifies the defence)
Monohan - $1.985M (depth at center)
MAF - $3.5M (in case Hart gets hurt)
Elias Lindholm - $4.85M (legit top 6 help)
Matt Dumba - $3.9M (more help on D)

Still $4M left. Maybe Patrick Kane if the Wings fall out of the race. But they have the potential to do a lot here!




J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
No. They aren't buyers.

They may make hockey trades but will not sell off young assets or picks. You will see them move Walker and possibly Risto if they can find a deal. Also could see Laughton if the price is right. But I don't see them buyers.
ForeverFlyer16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lou Nolan for Flyers Hall of Fame , NJ
Joined: 11.03.2006

Jan 19 @ 1:37 PM ET
That is what the deadline cap hit is and it's exceptionally far from that $23M number

Also, $23M in cap space would mean they were below the $61.7M cap floor

- eichiefs9


I was referring to what Ek was trying to say... when he used that number.

We must keep in mind that the LTIR allowance must be accounted for also, so the cap standing is altered, and being below the cap floor shouldn't be looked at.

... Why the laughing memes? Not a very good way to have an intelligent adult, non-combative discussion, as I see it... but I suppose that is merely the norm on here with some people.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jan 19 @ 1:44 PM ET
"The Flyers defeated Colorado in Denver just a week ago"

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jsrstl1
Season Ticket Holder
St Louis Blues
Location: New Braumfels, TX
Joined: 01.08.2022

Jan 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
Where do you find 23 million in cap space for the Flyers ? They are projected to have a little less than 3 million in deadline cap Space according to cap friendly ? I didn’t bother looking at the Panthers but doubt they’re at 19 million seriously. Maybe I hit the bowl to much today but this is a very confusing article!
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 19 @ 2:12 PM ET
I was referring to what Ek was trying to say... when he used that number.

We must keep in mind that the LTIR allowance must be accounted for also, so the cap standing is altered, and being below the cap floor shouldn't be looked at.

... Why the laughing memes? Not a very good way to have an intelligent adult, non-combative discussion, as I see it... but I suppose that is merely the norm on here with some people.

- ForeverFlyer16

I know what you were referring to. My point was that, even if he was referring to full-season cap hits, the number he threw out there is still wildly off the mark. That's exactly what the "Current Cap Space" and "Deadline Cap Space" rows on CapFriendly is and those numbers are $1,377,792 and $2,985,216, respectively....not $23,000,000.

LTIR doesn't need to be accounted for because 1. LTIR doesn't give you more cap space and 2. the Flyers don't have anyone on LTIR so it's irrelevant. And what exactly does that have to do with the cap floor?

Finally, the laughing...emojis....were referring to Eklund's claim that the Flyers have $23,000,000 in cap space, which would make them have a total combined cap hit of $60,500,000, which is $1,200,000 below the cap floor

Was that intelligent and non-combative enough for you?
Firstofhisname
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2018

Jan 19 @ 2:33 PM ET
Holy crap Ek! We all know you don't proof read your posts so they often contain blatant typos or errors. We all know you don't really have any sources and simply re-post national writers' work. But, jeez, now we know you haven't the faintest idea how the salary cap works. You have hit a trifecta!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 19 @ 2:47 PM ET
They had better not be.
ForeverFlyer16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lou Nolan for Flyers Hall of Fame , NJ
Joined: 11.03.2006

Jan 19 @ 2:53 PM ET
I know what you were referring to. My point was that, even if he was referring to full-season cap hits, the number he threw out there is still wildly off the mark. That's exactly what the "Current Cap Space" and "Deadline Cap Space" rows on CapFriendly is and those numbers are $1,377,792 and $2,985,216, respectively....not $23,000,000.

LTIR doesn't need to be accounted for because 1. LTIR doesn't give you more cap space and 2. the Flyers don't have anyone on LTIR so it's irrelevant. And what exactly does that have to do with the cap floor?

Finally, the laughing...emojis....were referring to Eklund's claim that the Flyers have $23,000,000 in cap space, which would make them have a total combined cap hit of $60,500,000, which is $1,200,000 below the cap floor

Was that intelligent and non-combative enough for you?

- eichiefs9


Yes... but only after your clarification... which was needed. Please excuse me for assuming it was aimed at me; that's not unusual on this board... and I'm not familiar with you. My apologies.

Briere & Company have wisely held back on LTIR to allow banking. When needed LTIR can be utilized with Ryan Ellis... LTIR allows teams to replace an injured player up to the LTIR amount... if I have it correctly, at the TDL Ellis can be put on it and his large salary can be used for a rental player or so... This is what I meant by accounting foe LTIR.

Again sorry for my incorrect assumption... and snarky response. PEACE ✌️
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 19 @ 3:09 PM ET
The coyotes are just out of the top 10 with $65 million in cap space. Thought Ek would mention that also
Flyerloon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 12.06.2021

Jan 19 @ 3:09 PM ET
If they become buyers then the rebuild truly was a (frank)ing joke.


There's at least 5 players we should move on from and one of them is Hart. Paying his next contract doesn't work when Sam is a better goalie and younger and cheaper.

Hart
Walker
Laughton
Seeler
Staal
Risto if we can find a taker, probably not.
ND
Hathaway
Coots but this move makes sense at the draft where more team have cap space.
Cooleus
Joined: 04.13.2021

Jan 19 @ 3:18 PM ET
If they become buyers then the rebuild truly was a (frank)ing joke.


There's at least 5 players we should move on from and one of them is Hart. Paying his next contract doesn't work when Sam is a better goalie and younger and cheaper.

Hart
Walker
Laughton
Seeler
Staal
Risto if we can find a taker, probably not.
ND
Hathaway
Coots but this move makes sense at the draft where more team have cap space.

- Flyerloon


With $23M of cap space, why are you worried about Hart versus Ersson? Just pay Hart whatever he wants. They have money to burn.
Flyerloon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 12.06.2021

Jan 19 @ 3:25 PM ET
With $23M of cap space, why are you worried about Hart versus Ersson? Just pay Hart whatever he wants. They have money to burn.
- Cooleus




We will have to give raises to TK, Tippett which wont be cheap. I love Tk's game but he is without a doubt our most valuable trade chip if we decide to use it. He could net us 2 1st's and a good prospect.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jan 19 @ 3:40 PM ET
Holy crap Ek! We all know you don't proof read your posts so they often contain blatant typos or errors. We all know you don't really have any sources and simply re-post national writers' work. But, jeez, now we know you haven't the faintest idea how the salary cap works. You have hit a trifecta!
- Firstofhisname


Almost every single number is way off from Cap Friendly numbers. And the margins of error are astronomically wrong. It's like he completely fabricated the numbers out of nowhere. This post stands in the pantheon of inaccurate Ek posts.

Ek "cap space" versus current and projected from Cap Friendly.

1. Vancouver $7.6M v. $1.2M (LTIR) with $0 projected.
2. Boston $4.6M v. $2M (LTIR) with $61k projected.
3. Winnipeg $5.2M v. $2.5M with $1.1M projected.
4. Colorado $1.6M v. $3.9M (LTIR) with $0 projected.
5. Florida $19.2 v. $1.9M with $900k projected.
6. Rangers. $1.2M v. $4.4M (LTIR) with $100k projected.
7. Dallas. $0.83M v. $800k with $400k projected. --> got one right!!!
8. Vegas. $8.1M v. $400k (LTIR) with $0 projected.
9. Flyers. $23.1M v. $1.3M with $600k projected.
10. Carolina. $11.9M v. $2.9M with $1.4M projected.
https://www.capfriendly.com/
flylerid
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 05.13.2023

Jan 19 @ 3:44 PM ET
I think moving Risto would be good. We seem to have a log jam at D. Shocking but a good problem. I think they could use some Veteran firepower. But I think honestly They flyers could benefit from being the third partner in some trades with other teams. Maybe cherry picking a couple Vets who need to be moved with larger Salary and taking some Draft picks as recompense. Taking advangage of teams trying to make desperate moves.
Mahewman
Season Ticket Holder
Boston Bruins
Location: NH
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jan 19 @ 3:45 PM ET
If they become buyers then the rebuild truly was a (frank)ing joke.


There's at least 5 players we should move on from and one of them is Hart. Paying his next contract doesn't work when Sam is a better goalie and younger and cheaper.

Hart
Walker
Laughton
Seeler
Staal
Risto if we can find a taker, probably not.
ND
Hathaway
Coots but this move makes sense at the draft where more team have cap space.

- Flyerloon


Already Crowning Ersson a better goalie than Hart? Good luck with that. Why wouldnt you want two solid young goaltenders. Hart is only a year older... and has a lot more games played.
Flyerloon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 12.06.2021

Jan 19 @ 3:47 PM ET
With $23M of cap space, why are you worried about Hart versus Ersson? Just pay Hart whatever he wants. They have money to burn.
- Cooleus




You should be begging us to trade him to LA, where he is a huge upgrade over what you are currently playing in that spot.
ForeverFlyer16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lou Nolan for Flyers Hall of Fame , NJ
Joined: 11.03.2006

Jan 19 @ 3:51 PM ET
If they become buyers then the rebuild truly was a (frank)ing joke.


There's at least 5 players we should move on from and one of them is Hart. Paying his next contract doesn't work when Sam is a better goalie and younger and cheaper.

Hart
Walker
Laughton
Seeler
Staal
Risto if we can find a taker, probably not.
ND
Hathaway
Coots but this move makes sense at the draft where more team have cap space.

- Flyerloon


I can understand with the gigantic sample size on Ersson's resume... *sarcasm* I suppose you'd have moved Parent out for Wayne Stephenson back in the day too... and Wayne had more of a track record. Remember the Flyers moved Bernie to go with Favell, only to go get him back as soon as they could... and won two Cups behind his two Conn Smythe Trophy seasons. The NHL is full of a boatload of goalies on big contracts riding the bench or AHL **COUGHCalPetersonCOUGH**... Look, if Sam can displace the proven Hart after a couple seasons, move on from Hart... until then, sign him to a new bridge deal... I believe there is like only one year difference in age... and Hart has much more years of experience, and good seasons. JMO
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