Ryan Wilson: Hayes deal highlights Penguins new reality Hayes deal highlights Penguins new reality

As a guy who always assumes we’re not going to do anything in free agency anyways I don’t super hate it. That second should be dece

Pens fans will hate this guy. Big guy who plays with no physicality or effort . A real woof . Maybe Sid can light a fire under him no one else has been able to.

Pens fans will hate this guy. Big guy who plays with no physicality or effort . A real woof . Maybe Sid can light a fire under him no one else has been able to.
- hfc355

I don’t really care. Point of this trade was the 2nd, not because we think we’re getting a super useful player

Meet the NEW JEFF CARTER 2.0 The new whipping boy has officially arrived YIPPEE

Well... If we look at this as a swap for Carter we've gotten younger and most likely more production in our bottom 6 hahah... Plus a 2nd rounder... Not super terrible... Not that good though, either haha

Well... If we look at this as a swap for Carter we've gotten younger and most likely more production in our bottom 6 hahah... Plus a 2nd rounder... Not super terrible... Not that good though, either haha
- MattStrat

Yeah it’s not terrible though. Does nothing for the culture change that needs to happen, actually a step backwards in that regard.

I guess the difference is that before the Pens actually gave away something to get Jeff Carter. This time The Pens actually received something to get Jeff Carter 2.0.

#silverlining

Yeah it’s not terrible though. Does nothing for the culture change that needs to happen, actually a step backwards in that regard.
- Grinder47

Culture is pretty much directly related to the coaching IMO... And seeing how we know the coaching isn't changing any time soon... I had zero hopes or expectations of culture changes hahaha

So far from the 2nd round the Pens have picked two guys who made the Canadian World Juniors squad. One big defenseman, one small forward Haha

I guess the difference is that before the Pens actually gave away something to get Jeff Carter. This time The Pens actually received something to get Jeff Carter 2.0.

#silverlining
- drummer829

Nice. Could we be using that 2nd to dump a bigger contract? That's my guess.

So far from the 2nd round the Pens have picked two guys who made the Canadian World Juniors squad. One big defenseman, one small forward Haha
- MattStrat

Marshall loves the picks. Has compared the forward to Marshand/Gallagher and the way he described the defenseman made him sound like Dumoulin. Sound like good guys to have in the system.

So Dubas and Sully basically lied about being younger and hungrier. Hayes is junk.

So Dubas and Sully basically lied about being younger and hungrier. Hayes is junk.
- pghbirdman

Wait what?

What do you think draft picks are used for? To draft YOUNG players.

It's an alright deal. Doesn't move the needle in any specific direction though.

I read something that the flyers were considering brunickle late first round as he’s exactly the type of player torts wants.

Howe is apparently a Marchand type. Grit and skill. If he could half the player Marchand is but a similar level rat I’d be alright with that.

I think Dubas heard a 2nd was attached to Hayes and he had to bite. He can redeem himself at anytime by getting us some cap space. A Jarry trade, Smith trade, the long short of Graves unless you tie our new 2nd to it. Get us some cap space

Hayes probably gets flipped for another pick/prospect next year, people are way overthinking this

So what’s everyone going to use when capfriendly is gone? Is Puckpedia decent?

KD going heavy on def here, hopefully we aren't going the way of a certain past GM...

LOL...That 2nd rounder isn't till next year. That will be gone by then on another overaged soft stiff. Just think 10 mil for 1 dmen for another 3 years. LOL. Hayes will help the PP more than EK...HA HA..Penguins are a joke. Not only do they need an overhaul but a new coach/wanna be GM in sullivan. Another soft team year.

I think we are going heavy defensively because we don't have a lot of prospects that are defensemen. We have a bunch of forward prospects

I think Dubas heard a 2nd was attached to Hayes and he had to bite. He can redeem himself at anytime by getting us some cap space. A Jarry trade, Smith trade, the long short of Graves unless you tie our new 2nd to it. Get us some cap space
- 123Kid

No one is taking Graves for a 2nd lol

Wishful thinking on my part Jboyd lol