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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 6:12 AM ET
Jan Levine: Rangers missing out of Sprong costs team a shot at RW depth Few FA options remain
evitageN
New York Rangers
Location: AKA Nick, I wrote a song about Facebook Stalkin'
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 22 @ 7:39 AM ET
Obviously we don't know all the facts but seriously wild that 31 other teams didn't make the deal and it also took like 20+ days of free agency for him to get a deal? Is there like baggage out there that we don't know of?
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 8:10 AM ET
Obviously we don't know all the facts but seriously wild that 31 other teams didn't make the deal and it also took like 20+ days of free agency for him to get a deal? Is there like baggage out there that we don't know of?
- evitageN

The things I laid out in the blog. Issues defensively. Needs PP TOI. Tends to tail off production wise as season wears on. I really thought he found a home in Seattle, but they didn’t re-sign him
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 22 @ 9:28 AM ET
People starting to notice that GMCD is bad at his job eh? Especially from the comments of last thread. Love that. All are welcome in the house where we recognize GMCD is bad as his job.

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 22 @ 9:50 AM ET
People starting to notice that GMCD is bad at his job eh? Especially from the comments of last thread. Love that. All are welcome in the house where we recognize GMCD is bad as his job.


- blacksheep1


everyone is completely miserable just like you like it

I am still watching this coming season though, I don't care if you have all given up already
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 22 @ 9:52 AM ET
so what's Daniel Sprong done in the playoffs in his career that's so amazing?
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 22 @ 10:02 AM ET
so what's Daniel Sprong done in the playoffs in his career that's so amazing?
- jimbro83

Nothing, not the topic at hand. Topic is hand that Chris Drury is in over his head. (Some of the contracts on this team are not his fault. I'm nothing but fair.)
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 22 @ 10:11 AM ET
Nothing, not the topic at hand. Topic is hand that Chris Drury is in over his head. (Some of the contracts on this team are not his fault. I'm nothing but fair.)
- blacksheep1


yeah that Trocheck is terrible, woof
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jul 22 @ 10:17 AM ET
The things I laid out in the blog. Issues defensively. Needs PP TOI. Tends to tail off production wise as season wears on. I really thought he found a home in Seattle, but they didn’t re-sign him
- airjan23



Takes two sides to make a deal. There has NEVER been an indication that Sprong wanted to become a Ranger.

DANIEL SPRONG

This is the missed signing that we're going to get upset over? Come on guys!
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 22 @ 10:19 AM ET
Takes two sides to make a deal. There has NEVER been an indication that Sprong wanted to become a Ranger.

DANIEL SPRONG

This is the missed signing that we're going to get upset over? Come on guys!

- TommyGTrain


omg, people are out of their (frank)ing minds

and the same people would be pissed if he took the spot away from Othmann
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 11:05 AM ET
Nothing, not the topic at hand. Topic is hand that Chris Drury is in over his head. (Some of the contracts on this team are not his fault. I'm nothing but fair.)
- blacksheep1

You are extrapolating what I wrote.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 11:06 AM ET
Takes two sides to make a deal. There has NEVER been an indication that Sprong wanted to become a Ranger.

DANIEL SPRONG

This is the missed signing that we're going to get upset over? Come on guys!

- TommyGTrain

I said it was a missed opportunity. Also, noted it takes two to tango. Didn’t get upset, just said it was lost chance at depth
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Jul 22 @ 11:19 AM ET
I am holding judgement of Drury's overall GM performance due to cap issues and the Rangers success. He was hired as GM May of 2021.

Gorton signings:

Panarin - Signed in 2019
Trouba - Signed in 2019
Strome - Signed 2020
Krieder - Signed 2020

Drury signings:

Trochek - Signed in 2022
Zib - Signed in 2021
Chytil - Signed 2023
Fox- Signed 2021
Miller - Signed 2023
Goodrow - Signed 2021- now off the books
Vesey - Signed 2022 and then 2023
Shesty - Signed 2021

Regarding Trades, Drury has made good ones and bad ones, just like any GM ever to act as a GM.
Copp, Vatrano, Kane, Motte, Buchnevich , Reaves, Tarasenko, Quick.

I would be hard pressed to be convinced that Fox and Zib's contracts are bad contracts. Price for production. This knowing the arguments and hurt feelings of this past playoffs. Open market, they both would get above 10million annual.

The above does not denote a poor GM showing, as the majority of what he has done has been more successful than not. Since 2021, the Rangers have been in cap hell. I am willing to bet that has affected how he proceeded with player signings and trades. Referring to my previous posts, Drury has to decide to go all in or clear house. What other choice does he have. If goes all in, trading the random 2nd rounder and signing cheap contracts to fill out the roster is what he has to do.
I cannot judge him negatively when, by all accounts, there have been a decent amount of positives.
This is a high level account. Not delving into details of what ifs and should haves.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:27 AM ET
yeah that Trocheck is terrible, woof
- jimbro83

Did I bring up Trocheck? Or was that somebody else? Me thinks that's somebody else. Big if true.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:28 AM ET
what would people want from a new GM anyway

to come in and clean house, re-acquire draft picks and punt on 2025?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:29 AM ET
Did I bring up Trocheck? Or was that somebody else? Me thinks that's somebody else. Big if true.
- blacksheep1


eat a diiick
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: Bean Town, MA
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jul 22 @ 11:31 AM ET
Lavi coached Sprong in WSH. Could be another piece of the puzzle as to why we did not sign him. This is pure speculation.
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

Jul 22 @ 11:31 AM ET
Drury can't clear house. He can't trade Zib, Kreider, Panarin, Fox, Trocheck, etc even if he wanted to because of clauses in their contracts. Dolan would also never allow him to blow it up at this point.

That means he needs to go all in. All in means that their 1st round pick should be in play at this deadline as should any prospect not named Perrault that is not a regular on the roster by the trade deadline
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:37 AM ET
Drury can't clear house. He can't trade Zib, Kreider, Panarin, Fox, Trocheck, etc even if he wanted to because of clauses in their contracts. Dolan would also never allow him to blow it up at this point.

That means he needs to go all in. All in means that their 1st round pick should be in play at this deadline as should any prospect not named Perrault that is not a regular on the roster by the trade deadline

- SkjeiStadium


things just aren't as miserable as people are making it out to be

yeah they lost in the conference final and its as painful loss as they ever had but that doesn't mean we suck now, the internet just oozes unnecessary negativity and it gets contagious
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Jul 22 @ 11:38 AM ET
Drury can't clear house. He can't trade Zib, Kreider, Panarin, Fox, Trocheck, etc even if he wanted to because of clauses in their contracts. Dolan would also never allow him to blow it up at this point.

That means he needs to go all in. All in means that their 1st round pick should be in play at this deadline as should any prospect not named Perrault that is not a regular on the roster by the trade deadline

- SkjeiStadium


Agreed. Need the right players to win. And even that is a roll of the die. If you want to win, you win at all costs. Rangers are a winning team by definition and facts. They need those few additional pieces that Drury just hasn't found yet to get them over that hump in the playoffs.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 22 @ 11:40 AM ET
things just aren't as miserable as people are making it out to be

yeah they lost in the conference final and its as painful loss as they ever had but that doesn't mean we suck now, the internet just oozes unnecessary negativity and it gets contagious


Or overbearing and unrealistic over confidence. Just depends on your point of view.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:42 AM ET
Or overbearing and unrealistic over confidence. Just depends on your point of view.
- Brukie


my words were "things aren't that miserable"

and you take that as over confidence
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Jul 22 @ 11:46 AM ET
Or overbearing and unrealistic over confidence. Just depends on your point of view.
- Brukie


The sky is not falling, nor have they won it all. So it's somewhere in the middle on a spectrum of ones own opinion.
But hey, we are definitely not in the Sharks or Blue Jackets fan base position.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 22 @ 11:48 AM ET
what would people want from a new GM anyway

to come in and clean house, re-acquire draft picks and punt on 2025?

- jimbro83

Peter Chiarelli time.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:50 AM ET
Peter Chiarelli time.
- blacksheep1


see, this is what happens when you guys start agreeing with Tom that everything sucks and Drury should be fired

you've emboldened Tom to make the blog a poop fest
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