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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Aug 11 @ 7:37 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: August 11, 2024
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Aug 11 @ 8:05 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: August 11, 2024
- bmeltzer

Said it before to you Bill won't be shocked if that center is tyler johnson.

Still some decent UFA still out there who can be had on cheap 1 years deals to help a team.

Should have traded GH get Martin or Clutterbuck..... Hell could probably get 2 for the price of one.
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 11 @ 8:37 AM ET
Said it before to you Bill won't be shocked if that center is tyler johnson.

Still some decent UFA still out there who can be had on cheap 1 years deals to help a team.

Should have traded GH get Martin or Clutterbuck..... Hell could probably get 2 for the price of one.

- hello it's me 2050


I agree re: Johnson. That has "Tortorella kind of player" written all over it.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Aug 11 @ 8:49 AM ET
Ken Linsman was a very underrated player. Fast skater, good skill, good agitator, and was almost a point per game player over his career. To me he was a perfect Flyer and I remember I was really bummed when he got traded, though I understand why they traded him for Mark Howe. You could pencil Linsman in for 25 goals and 70+ points a season, and that is not bad at all.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Aug 11 @ 9:33 AM ET
I agree re: Johnson. That has "Tortorella kind of player" written all over it.
- bmeltzer

little shocked they didn't give him a 1 year deal. There was some interest.

Doesn't seem like any room at the inn to add unless you are also subtracting.

Do you see Farabee to Buffalo before the season starts?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Aug 11 @ 9:35 AM ET
Ken Linsman was a very underrated player. Fast skater, good skill, good agitator, and was almost a point per game player over his career. To me he was a perfect Flyer and I remember I was really bummed when he got traded, though I understand why they traded him for Mark Howe. You could pencil Linsman in for 25 goals and 70+ points a season, and that is not bad at all.
- jd250

love perfect flyers. They have plenty of them on the current roster.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 11 @ 12:01 PM ET
https://www.spotrac.com/n...e/ufa/sort/contract_value
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 11 @ 12:32 PM ET
Bill

Is Ryan Ellis even still with the team, IE having to go through the motions of showing up being "employed"? Or is he living a retired life for all intents?

Im guessing they will be putting him on LTIR to get compliant.

I've always wondered how that works. Especially for a guy like him who was never really a part of the team to begin with. Like does he even live in the area?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Aug 11 @ 12:43 PM ET
Bill

Is Ryan Ellis even still with the team, IE having to go through the motions of showing up being "employed"? Or is he living a retired life for all intents?

Im guessing they will be putting him on LTIR to get compliant.

I've always wondered how that works. Especially for a guy like him who was never really a part of the team to begin with. Like does he even live in the area?

- MBFlyerfan

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GPerogie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hightstown, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Aug 11 @ 12:44 PM ET
Is PEB (Pierre-Édouard Bellemare) of any interest, Love the Faceoff ability, though I'm sure his speed is down, he is likely one to trade at the DL to a contender for a late round pick. Its a fine line though adding tradeable assets and not blocking the youth from playing. Faceoff wins however could use a big boost.. Is Adam Hall still playing ;-)
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Aug 11 @ 12:45 PM ET
https://www.spotrac.com/n...e/ufa/sort/contract_value
- MBFlyerfan

every year there is a reclamation project. Yammoto is an example. Just show another reason to sell high on a guy like RP. These can be found every summer.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 11 @ 12:51 PM ET
https://www.spotrac.com/n...e/ufa/sort/contract_value
- MBFlyerfan


Surprising that CHandler Stephenson is still unsigned.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 11 @ 12:54 PM ET

- hello it's me 2050[url]



Why did I watch that whole thing?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Aug 11 @ 1:03 PM ET
Surprising that CHandler Stephenson is still unsigned.
- MJL

he isnt. thought you only deal with facts cliff.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 11 @ 1:13 PM ET
he isnt. thought you only deal with facts cliff.
- hello it's me 2050



Yes, I see he signed with Seattle. I guess my link is a little out dated.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Aug 11 @ 1:58 PM ET
every year there is a reclamation project. Yammoto is an example. Just show another reason to sell high on a guy like RP. These can be found every summer.
- hello it's me 2050


Why would you move a 25 year old 4th C? Doesnt make sense to move a guy just to add someone you hope can be like the guy you moved. It is like selling a boat for a mystery box and hoping its a boat.

A guy like Hathaway is soemone you consider moving. They didnt. I dont agree with the signing but Im not going to lose sleep over a lost potential 4th or 5th round pick
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Aug 11 @ 2:09 PM ET
Why would you move a 25 year old 4th C? Doesnt make sense to move a guy just to add someone you hope can be like the guy you moved. It is like selling a boat for a mystery box and hoping its a boat.

A guy like Hathaway is soemone you consider moving. They didnt. I dont agree with the signing but Im not going to lose sleep over a lost potential 4th or 5th round pick

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

real simple. they are dime a dozen players. Take the asset get the next RP.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 11 @ 2:14 PM ET
real simple. they are dime a dozen players. Take the asset get the next RP.
- hello it's me 2050


Using that analogy, the asset you would get would be like trading a dime for a nickel.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 11 @ 2:19 PM ET
Why would you move a 25 year old 4th C? Doesnt make sense to move a guy just to add someone you hope can be like the guy you moved. It is like selling a boat for a mystery box and hoping its a boat.

A guy like Hathaway is soemone you consider moving. They didnt. I dont agree with the signing but Im not going to lose sleep over a lost potential 4th or 5th round pick

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Hathaway would've brought back better than a 4th or 5th round pick in my opinion.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Aug 11 @ 2:53 PM ET
real simple. they are dime a dozen players. Take the asset get the next RP.
- hello it's me 2050


Dime a dozen yet Flyers had a good 4th line for the 1st time since what? Like early 2000s?


You got a young 4th line player who is a part of your rebuild. From the looks of it Flyers will be looking to exit the Rebuild in 2026 assuming Michkov doesnt dominate immediately. Whether they will be ready or not is anyones guess.

Flyers need to clear some spots on D. Attard and Ginning both looked ready to take on 3rd pair roles. Andrae could be ready as well, he had a pretty good AHL season, one more season cant hurt but he has to make the jump after that. Should have moved Seeler and need to find a way to move Ristolainen.

I guess its always possible Seeler regressing could open up a spot. Zamula is no lock either.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Aug 11 @ 3:01 PM ET
Dime a dozen yet Flyers had a good 4th line for the 1st time since what? Like early 2000s?


You got a young 4th line player who is a part of your rebuild. From the looks of it Flyers will be looking to exit the Rebuild in 2026 assuming Michkov doesnt dominate immediately. Whether they will be ready or not is anyones guess.

Flyers need to clear some spots on D. Attard and Ginning both looked ready to take on 3rd pair roles. Andrae could be ready as well, he had a pretty good AHL season, one more season cant hurt but he has to make the jump after that. Should have moved Seeler and need to find a way to move Ristolainen.

I guess its always possible Seeler regressing could open up a spot. Zamula is no lock either.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

yes dime a dozen. had good 4th line, great where did the team finish again? refresh my memory. 1st one in years just shows the incompetence of this franchise.

Cant exit any rebuild when you really never started. No 4th line players should be a part of any rebuild. So in 2026 when RP will need a new contract I guess he will get the Laughton 5 year special. Wash rinse repeat.

wonder what a Seeler and RP package at last deadline would have returned? Both on cheap as can be contacts. Maybe add a 3rd what does that get the flyers back? Forward thinking organizations would explore that route.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Aug 11 @ 3:11 PM ET
Linsemen was Marchand before Marchand was Marchand. Linsemen maybe didn’t score as many points but their style of play is similar. Hate Marchand but loved Linsemen.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Aug 11 @ 3:44 PM ET
Dime a dozen yet Flyers had a good 4th line for the 1st time since what? Like early 2000s?


You got a young 4th line player who is a part of your rebuild. From the looks of it Flyers will be looking to exit the Rebuild in 2026 assuming Michkov doesnt dominate immediately. Whether they will be ready or not is anyones guess.

Flyers need to clear some spots on D. Attard and Ginning both looked ready to take on 3rd pair roles. Andrae could be ready as well, he had a pretty good AHL season, one more season cant hurt but he has to make the jump after that. Should have moved Seeler and need to find a way to move Ristolainen.

I guess its always possible Seeler regressing could open up a spot. Zamula is no lock either.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I started seeing this sentiment in Flyers articles last week. I see it has taken root. This is why the Flyers don't have to do a legitimate rebuild. All they have to do is proclaim it and it is so.

Michkov hasn't played a game and fans have visions of prime Ovechkin in year 1 dancing in their eyes. On the flip side, CG is a guaranteed bust.

Who does a 1-2 year rebuild while also only getting rid of only what, 4-5 guys? 2 the coach couldn't stand, 1 who asked out, 1 who declined, and maybe one for the future? 4 out of 5 happen no matter what.

The Flyers goal in the "rebuild" was to sell tix and merch. Mission accomplished.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 11 @ 5:30 PM ET
Dime a dozen yet Flyers had a good 4th line for the 1st time since what? Like early 2000s?


You got a young 4th line player who is a part of your rebuild. From the looks of it Flyers will be looking to exit the Rebuild in 2026 assuming Michkov doesnt dominate immediately. Whether they will be ready or not is anyones guess.

Flyers need to clear some spots on D. Attard and Ginning both looked ready to take on 3rd pair roles. Andrae could be ready as well, he had a pretty good AHL season, one more season cant hurt but he has to make the jump after that. Should have moved Seeler and need to find a way to move Ristolainen.

I guess its always possible Seeler regressing could open up a spot. Zamula is no lock either.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


The Flyers did not have a good 4th line last year.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Aug 11 @ 9:09 PM ET
It's August, so I'm looking for anything new about the Flyers. I thought this prospect report for the Flyers was well done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee-yC-oEg80
I think Sabastian High did a good job but I felt he was trying to be more positive than maybe what the reality is. In the end he gave the Flyers a B draft grade and a B prospect pool grade, but noted there is no high top line or top D talent in the system except Michkov, a lot of middle 6 and bottom 6 forwards and mid level defenseman. I am really hoping Jett Luchanko pops in his +1 year, otherwise Briere is going to hear it loud and clear from the fan base for passing on Buium.
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