Mike Augello: Liljegren To Make Season Debut; Leafs vs. Kings

*trade bait*

*trade bait*
- Symba007

Tre is a master baiter.

Forgive my pessimism, but is this really the best way for the Jays to spend a boatload of money?

From what I saw this year, they are a little further than "one guy away."
- Atomic Wedgie

They gotta put butts in seats, at this rate the rebuild will continue for all eternity.

They gotta put butts in seats, at this rate the rebuild will continue for all eternity.
- Whipper

but to answer Wedgies question

the Jays are possibly one Soto away or they could be many sotos away.

only one way to find out

but to answer Wedgies question

the Jays are possibly one Soto away or they could be many sotos away.

only one way to find out
- senstroll

get a 6 pack

Anthony Stolarz will get the start for Toronto, and former Leaf David Rittich will get the start for Los Angeles. Another former Leaf, Joel Edmundson will not be in the lineup for the Kings, due to an impending birth.
- mikeinbuffalo

I initially thought this was going to be a cake walk, but apparently Big Save Dave was 22-13-6 last year, with a 2.15 GAA and a .921 SV%.

Who knew?

Lily is too expensive to be a #7.

Something has to give.

Depth is nice and having a solid #7 and #8 (god forbid #9) who can step in is nice insurance to have. But I feel like you could get a solid #7 for a good bit less than Lily.

Lily doesn't have much trade value at the moment and I'm not sure if that improves anytime soon. Teams know the Leafs are in a cap crunch and are not going to do them any favours. If the Leafs really want to get rid of him they could waive him. I am sure there would be one team willing to take a chance on him even at 3 mil. (Dubas)

It is too bad a first rounder hasn't panned out. No team wants to give up on their own high draft picks, but the leafs are just better off giving him away for the extra cap space.

I initially thought this was going to be a cake walk, but apparently Big Save Dave was 22-13-6 last year, with a 2.15 GAA and a .921 SV%.

Who knew?
- Atomic Wedgie

I still smell a decisive victory for the Toronto Maple Leafs, but yeah that wasn't on my bingo card.

Lily for Barrie

but to answer Wedgies question

the Jays are possibly one Soto away or they could be many sotos away.

only one way to find out
- senstroll

Soto is only 26. So that increases his cost.
$600 and 10 years.....not sure its the best use of money. Could probably get Santander and pete alonso for 5 years at under $60m per combined.

Lily is too expensive to be a #7.

Something has to give.

Depth is nice and having a solid #7 and #8 (god forbid #9) who can step in is nice insurance to have. But I feel like you could get a solid #7 for a good bit less than Lily.
- GalacticStone

No real trade value for lily right now and no rush to move him. Play him games and improve his value.

Tre is a master baiter.
- Whipper

he must work here as they are master of their craft

Soto is only 26. So that increases his cost.
$600 and 10 years.....not sure its the best use of money. Could probably get Santander and pete alonso for 5 years at under $60m per combined.
- Fakepartofme

so pay 60 mill for 5.5 wins instead of 8

ok

No real trade value for lily right now and no rush to move him. Play him games and improve his value.
- Fakepartofme

Agree here. No rush, but eventually it's a situation the team will want to address. Hopefully Lily makes the decision for them by playing his way back into the lineup and climbing up the depth chart to become a solid #5/6. He will come in handy if injuries start piling up.

I'm not ready to write the guy off and just waive him or give him away for peanuts. He's still young enough to improve if he works hard enough and regains the trust of the coach.

so pay 60 mill for 5.5 wins instead of 8

ok
- senstroll

2 offensive bats compared to one. Also it would be less than 60m.

Heck sign bregman and santander or bregman and teoscar....dont care. Blowing it all in one fish (unless they are going to ohtani him) doesnt seem like a good idea as they need two quality bats and a whole new bullpen

but to answer Wedgies question

the Jays are possibly one Soto away or they could be many sotos away.

only one way to find out
- senstroll

It's like the infamous words of notorious Canadian philosophers 54-40: One gun added on to the one gun.

You can't have more than one gun until you get at least one.

It's like the infamous words of notorious Canadian philosophers 54-40: One gun added on to the one gun.

You can't have more than one gun until you get at least one.
- Monkeypunk

They one have one gun now.....they need two more

Damn you Monkey. I got that song stuck in my head now. Actually met him and the drummer at a cafe in the Skydome in 1998. They seemed pretty cool.

get a 6 pack


- Symba007

I need a favour... Some peeps brought back some bad memories of a streetcar named flapjacks. I need you to saunter next door to Toronto and kick her right square in the taco. Thanks brother.

2 offensive bats compared to one. Also it would be less than 60m.

Heck sign bregman and santander or bregman and teoscar....dont care. Blowing it all in one fish (unless they are going to ohtani him) doesnt seem like a good idea as they need two quality bats and a whole new bullpen
- Fakepartofme

Soto is the 3rd most valuable hitter in baseball. give me that all day. with Vlad


figure out the rest after

It's like the infamous words of notorious Canadian philosophers 54-40: One gun added on to the one gun.

You can't have more than one gun until you get at least one.
- Monkeypunk

this is both proper and bad math

Soto is the 3rd most valuable hitter in baseball. give me that all day. with Vlad


figure out the rest after
- senstroll

History would tell you not to hold your breath unfortunately.

So the Jays having not won a best of 7 since '93, is that the longest streak in pro sports at this point?