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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Yesterday @ 5:31 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Dubas deals for former first round pick Dubas deals for former first round pick
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Yesterday @ 5:36 PM ET
Alright Ducks... you guys badly need a RH PP QB...

Karlsson, Jarry & McGroaty for Gibson, Killorn & Gudas. Dollars even out and Karlsson gets to go to Anaheim to be the man.

- MacPatty

I wouldn't pull the plug on McGroarty yet, certainly not to fix the current team who are beyond saving ... unless guys like McGroarty come up and give them a bigger than expected push. It is concerning though that he's still floundering at the AHL.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Yesterday @ 5:41 PM ET
Looking at previous drafts Pittsburgh has not done very well haha. In the last 10 years I’d say the most successful drafted players to play in Pittsburgh have been sprong, lafferty, and Simon. I wouldn’t expect much out of a pens 4th round pick.
- 10inchTerror

New regime with a lot more draft capital. I'll bet they find some players.

That said, I agree with TW's take. They got a bunch of extra 2nds and 3rds, so using a 4th on a change of scenery player is fine.

Of course when I see Puljujarvi practicing on a fourth line, I don't have much faith Sully will unlock his potential.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Yesterday @ 5:51 PM ET
Very true. Plus as the vets get healthy any kids will be gone. Acari has been good but the rest need to go sooner than later.

In other news Carolina should be desperate for a goalie and Ottawa for a dman. Dubas better be calling.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Yesterday @ 6:07 PM ET
The key for the Penguins will be to trade our players to teams who undervalue draft picks and use that draft capital to trade for players, young or experienced, to teams who overvalue draft capital.

Much easier said than done, but using draft picks as lottery tickets doesnt seem prudent to me, especially outside the top 3 or 4 rounds. Use them to acquire undervalued players who are out of favor with their teams.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Yesterday @ 6:28 PM ET
The move is promising. It's very low risk. I think as we said previously that spending some picks and getting younger talent would be a great move to help sooner and later.
MickV
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Cambridge, MA
Joined: 07.03.2023

Yesterday @ 6:37 PM ET
@Tojo, "Yes, she pulled my hardy" tries too much, hence Sully sees him as a bottom-6 guy.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Yesterday @ 6:44 PM ET
I wonder if this trade sets a price for Beau on the trade markets as well.



A lot of talk that we were scouting Nashville and Montreal heavily. Wonder if we can snag a young Defender from Montreal.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Yesterday @ 6:46 PM ET
Great move by Dubas. We only have 9 bottom 6 forwards on the roster... Can never have too many of those guys.
Maybe we sit Gryz now and play a 4 forward 1 D system?

Im fine with the move itself, I don't think Tomasino is going to be a difference maker but a fine enough bottom 6 with upside at an inconsequential price.

Just don't understand why we even bother with this trade? Don't understand why we traded Nashville for Glass and Tomasino but didn't trade for Fabbro, a guy we could have actually used.
buckster2342
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.13.2009

Yesterday @ 6:56 PM ET
Yeah I’d argue bottom 6 isn’t really our problem. There’s a giant hole at 1LW. Rust and bunting haven’t played anywhere near top 6 quality. And defense is a mess. But let’s get a 9th bottom 6 forward.

Hope there’s another move coming but I doubt it.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Yesterday @ 7:10 PM ET
I wonder if this trade sets a price for Beau on the trade markets as well.



A lot of talk that we were scouting Nashville and Montreal heavily. Wonder if we can snag a young Defender from Montreal.

- 123Kid


Maillioux. 21 yo RD. Averaging over a PPG in the AHL and NHL combined, but obviously some issues with the org as they leave him in the minors.

I'm praying there is a Karlsson for Maillioux deal in the works and we are just scouting to see which of their bad contracts we want to take back in the deal.

Karlsson, McGroaty & a 2nd for Anderson and Maillioux. Let's go!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Yesterday @ 7:44 PM ET
I wouldn't pull the plug on McGroarty yet, certainly not to fix the current team who are beyond saving ... unless guys like McGroarty come up and give them a bigger than expected push. It is concerning though that he's still floundering at the AHL.
- Tojo.


I wasn't a fan of McCrotchy when he was at Michigan, it was a shame the Penguins gave up Yager to get him, but...

As a Flyer fan I am extremely happy they traded Yager, who I considered their best prospect since probably Crosby maybe. Not saying Yager is Crosby...just saying their best prospect since.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Yesterday @ 8:06 PM ET
Yeah I’d argue bottom 6 isn’t really our problem. There’s a giant hole at 1LW. Rust and bunting haven’t played anywhere near top 6 quality. And defense is a mess. But let’s get a 9th bottom 6 forward.

Hope there’s another move coming but I doubt it.

- buckster2342




Yeah it's another Bemstrom type deal where Sullivan will probably be forced to use him a bunch in the bottom 6 then he will be a regular in WBS as soon as next year. I am hoping I am wrong and we can unlock his potential. I just don't see Sullivan playing any kids I over the veterans unless forced to.
buckster2342
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.13.2009

Yesterday @ 8:15 PM ET
Yeah it's another Bemstrom type deal where Sullivan will probably be forced to use him a bunch in the bottom 6 then he will be a regular in WBS as soon as next year. I am hoping I am wrong and we can unlock his potential. I just don't see Sullivan playing any kids I over the veterans unless forced to.
- 123Kid

He’ll get 8 min a night playing with acciari, so no chance at even showing what he has.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Yesterday @ 8:17 PM ET
He’ll get 8 min a night playing with acciari, so no chance at even showing what he has.
- buckster2342


Same as ponaromov. 4th line isn’t either of their type of game.