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Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Apr 10 @ 3:52 PM ET
Mike Augello: The Pittsburgh Model and The Draft Lottery
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Apr 10 @ 3:53 PM ET
Robbie Earl.
Mahoney87
Joined: 02.28.2012

Apr 10 @ 3:55 PM ET
Robbie Earl.
- jbold


the Robbie Earl model
xXwagzXx
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: THE PHILASH
Joined: 02.09.2010

Apr 10 @ 3:58 PM ET
well when we win the lottery tonight we will have to do the pens motel then what will bb excuse be
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 10 @ 4:00 PM ET
The Penguins are a 100+ point team without Cindy Crosby and the "they won a GD lottery", did BB ever think of that? He's such knucklehead sometimes, does he really believe that Cindy Crosby is the only reason they're good?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 10 @ 4:01 PM ET
The Penguins are a 100+ point team without Cindy Crosby and the "they won a GD lottery", did BB ever think of that? He's such knucklehead sometimes, does he really believe that Cindy Crosby is the only reason they're good?
- LeftCoaster


Edit: all the time!
coach
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 10 @ 4:01 PM ET
aren't the NYI and CLB following the PIT model too?


just sayin...


saying that. STOP trading (frank)ing 1st round picks, TOR!!!

draft the seguin and hamilton's first...then TRADE for the kessels!!!! not the other way around.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Apr 10 @ 4:03 PM ET
“My plan for building this team has not changed…..my view on how hockey teams are built and how hockey games are won has not changed. I still believe that big physical teams win hockey games.”
~Burke.

......and yet he's assembled the softest, most gutless team in the Toronto Maple Leafs storied history.


Mahoney87
Joined: 02.28.2012

Apr 10 @ 4:03 PM ET
haha he wont sign anyone for more than 5 years cause of his principles but he can trade away the next 10 years in two 1st and a 2nd for kessel. Burkie's legit out of his god damn mind
dionschenn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.01.2010

Apr 10 @ 4:03 PM ET
I don't get all the fuss about his comments on Pittsburgh. People are blowing it up like he's saying "Pittsburgh does know how to build a team but I do". That is not what he was getting at in any way. Funny how nobody wants to include him saying Shero is a great GM and is doing a great job. His point was that he is sick of people telling him to follow the "Pittsburgh model" when they tanked and luckily got the best player in the game. I guess the Islanders followed the "Pittsburgh model" are they going to win a cup any time soon? No because it was different, Pittsburgh was an exception because they got the best player in the game.
coach
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 10 @ 4:04 PM ET
“My plan for building this team has not changed…..my view on how hockey teams are built and how hockey games are won has not changed. I still believe that big physical teams win hockey games.”
~Burke.

......and yet he's assembled the softest, most gutless team in the Toronto Maple Leafs storied history.

- Barx



yah...still stuck on that one. maybe they can get gaustad in the summer. great 3rd line centerman, tough, great on faceoffs.
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Apr 10 @ 4:05 PM ET
The Penguins are a 100+ point team without Cindy Crosby and the "they won a GD lottery", did BB ever think of that? He's such knucklehead sometimes, does he really believe that Cindy Crosby is the only reason they're good?
- LeftCoaster

No, but he's one of the reasons why they won the cup.

Where would they be if they never drafted him? They most likely wouldn't of traded for Neal.

The entire NHL would be different if Crosby got drafted to another team.
p_zub
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 10 @ 4:05 PM ET
The Penguins are a 100+ point team without Cindy Crosby and the "they won a GD lottery", did BB ever think of that? He's such knucklehead sometimes, does he really believe that Cindy Crosby is the only reason they're good?
- LeftCoaster


Crosby clearly isn't their best player...you think a first round pick and the rights to Jonas Gustavsson would be good enough to get him from Pittsburgh?
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Apr 10 @ 4:06 PM ET
haha he wont sign anyone for more than 5 years cause of his principles but he can trade away the next 10 years in two 1st and a 2nd for kessel. Burkie's legit out of his god damn mind
- Mahoney87

burke is following the burke model

wont do a pittsburgh rebuild
wont sign players to long term deals-detroit,CHI,PHI,Capitals,devils,rangers
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 10 @ 4:06 PM ET
I don't get all the fuss about his comments on Pittsburgh. People are blowing it up like he's saying "Pittsburgh does know how to build a team but I do". That is not what he was getting at in any way. Funny how nobody wants to include him saying Shero is a great GM and is doing a great job. His point was that he is sick of people telling him to follow the "Pittsburgh model" when they tanked and luckily got the best player in the game. I guess the Islanders followed the "Pittsburgh model" are they going to win a cup any time soon? No because it was different, Pittsburgh was an exception because they got the best player in the game.
- dionschenn

Pittsburgh got over a 100 points this year with Crosby missing most of it, how can you even say that?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 10 @ 4:08 PM ET
No, but he's one of the reasons why they won the cup.

Where would they be if they never drafted him? They most likely wouldn't of traded for Neal.

The entire NHL would be different if Crosby got drafted to another team.

- jbold

But they'd still be a good team. By the way, Crosby had three points in the Cup finals when they won. Two in one game and one in another, so he went pointless in five of the seven games. Malkin was the biggest reason they won that Cup, thus the Conn Smythe!
Mahoney87
Joined: 02.28.2012

Apr 10 @ 4:09 PM ET
burke is following the burke model

wont do a pittsburgh rebuild
wont sign players to long term deals-detroit,CHI,PHI,Capitals,devils,rangers

- wingz4life


He just goes with what he thinks is right at the time the "burke model" should be called wingin' it
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Apr 10 @ 4:09 PM ET
I don't get all the fuss about his comments on Pittsburgh. People are blowing it up like he's saying "Pittsburgh does know how to build a team but I do". That is not what he was getting at in any way. Funny how nobody wants to include him saying Shero is a great GM and is doing a great job. His point was that he is sick of people telling him to follow the "Pittsburgh model" when they tanked and luckily got the best player in the game. I guess the Islanders followed the "Pittsburgh model" are they going to win a cup any time soon? No because it was different, Pittsburgh was an exception because they got the best player in the game.
- dionschenn

fleury, malkin, staal aren't so bad either......
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Apr 10 @ 4:09 PM ET
But they'd still be a good team. By the way, Crosby had three points in the Cup finals when they won. Two in one game and one in another, so he went pointless in five of the seven games. Malkin was the biggest reason they won that Cup, thus the Conn Smythe!
- LeftCoaster

crosbys fault they lost the cup the season before
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 10 @ 4:09 PM ET
Crosby clearly isn't their best player...you think a first round pick and the rights to Jonas Gustavsson would be good enough to get him from Pittsburgh?
- p_zub

Might have to add Ashton...I hear he's a lock for stardom
ejeezy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 08.23.2010

Apr 10 @ 4:09 PM ET
Pittsburgh got over a 100 points this year with Crosby missing most of it, how can you even say that?
- LeftCoaster


Getting to draft a talent like Malkin is pretty lucky, too.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Apr 10 @ 4:10 PM ET
burke is following the burke model

wont do a pittsburgh rebuild
wont sign players to long term deals-detroit,CHI,PHI,Capitals,devils,rangers

- wingz4life



thats the same as the 'burke type player'....a media fantasy.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Apr 10 @ 4:10 PM ET
Might have to add Ashton...I hear he's a lock for stardom
- LeftCoaster

yeah, he and frattin really 'emerged'.

jeezuz, that was embarrassing.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 10 @ 4:13 PM ET
yeah, he and frattin really 'emerged'.

jeezuz, that was embarrassing.

- Barx

sorry it's hard not to laugh at him sometimes.
coach
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 10 @ 4:13 PM ET
Pittsburgh got over a 100 points this year with Crosby missing most of it, how can you even say that?
- LeftCoaster


what about the years before crosby? they were no where near a 100pt team. lemieux barely spent anything to keep that team functional, let alone competitive.

there's plenty to dump on BB for, but not following the 'PIT model' isn't. in fact, it's a myth, it only works if you're team drafts a generational talent (crosby, lindros, etc), not just a pretty good one (bobby ryan, john tavares).

the biggest problem is BB had a chance to draft seguin and hamilton, and instead traded those high end picks for kessel. kessel is the right player, AT THE WRONG TIME!

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