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In 26 games prior to suffering that knee injury, Yakupov scored 21 times and added 32 assists, for a total of 53 points – a hair over two points per game. After his return from injury, Yakupov played 17 more regular season games, picking up a total of 16 points.

How much of a difference does that make? The following chart shows every OHL player drafted with a top-three selection during the 2000’s, and the difference is spectacular:



http://oilersnation.com/2...povs-knee-injury-cost-him

Richard Cloutier: Bryan Mudryk Fundraiser + Trade Wars II Wrap-Up
- Maxbone

Good story Clouts
As for the trade, I'd say take it ONLY if you know there is no chance Suter re-signs, you don't want Radulov back and nothing better is offered. It is a decent package for 2 UFA's regardless of how good they are.
Just accept it and get it over with.

Anyone ever been to Diamonds in YEG? Forgot what a good place it is. Expensive...but FUN.

In 26 games prior to suffering that knee injury, Yakupov scored 21 times and added 32 assists, for a total of 53 points – a hair over two points per game. After his return from injury, Yakupov played 17 more regular season games, picking up a total of 16 points.

How much of a difference does that make? The following chart shows every OHL player drafted with a top-three selection during the 2000’s, and the difference is spectacular:



http://oilersnation.com/2...povs-knee-injury-cost-him
- laughs2907

Interesting stuff. I've seen quite a lot of doubters of Yakupov and a lot of criticism which is unusual for a consensus #1 pick. It might just be a little jealousy I guess since you guys already have RNH, Hall and Eberle.



And btw, good block for Once, Cloutier.

In 26 games prior to suffering that knee injury, Yakupov scored 21 times and added 32 assists, for a total of 53 points – a hair over two points per game. After his return from injury, Yakupov played 17 more regular season games, picking up a total of 16 points.

How much of a difference does that make? The following chart shows every OHL player drafted with a top-three selection during the 2000’s, and the difference is spectacular:



http://oilersnation.com/2...povs-knee-injury-cost-him
- laughs2907

This post makes me even more excited about Michael Sgarbossa thanks for that.

Michael Sgarbossa : GP 66 G 47 A 55 P 102 GPG .712 PPG 1.55

The kid is still 19 and there are players in this draft that were born earlier than he was in 1992. Sick..

Anyone ever been to Diamonds in YEG? Forgot what a good place it is. Expensive...but FUN.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

I've driven by the place a few times, but I'm a little old for strippers. After turning about 40, everything from the waist down stops working. Ask anyone.

Here is the catch. There are other teams that think Suter would play for them that might offer a bigger return in order to get his rights to start negotiating...Detroit, Minny, Colorado, and Chicago.

The Radulov trade is fine. From a fans perspective, please please take him off our hands. He has caused us heartbreak and misery. He still has uber talent, but we just aren't willing to deal with him anymore. On another team, especially a bigger city, he would probably do fine. But in the deep south in small town NSH, he was never happy.

So back to Suter. So basically comes down to Pitt unloads a big cap hit (Martin) at $5 million per year for 3 more years. Sure, if Pitt signs Suter, they give up a 1st. But it's the 22nd pick overall. Big deal. If they can't sign Suter, they have cleared 5 million off their roster in Martin. So it is a no lose situation either way for Pitt.

As for Nashville, if they do nothing, they lose both Rads and possibly Suter. But by doing nothing, they are still in the race for Suter. He might decide to stay after he hears all the offers. So what exactly does NSH gain by accept this deal? They would be better off not doing a thing and then having the 12-13 million they were going to spend on Suter/Rads available to go after other talent. Heck, they'd be better off putting in a few offer sheets for players that are expected to make less then $1.1 million as it would cost them nothing in compensation.

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- Maxbone

I bet you'd have fun in Boyle...

You guys keep making this pittsburgh nashville trade too difficult.
Suter
For
Staal

Add picks on either side depending on signing status. The pens could send martin to nash if they wanted a roster d man to fill some shoes. Martin might actually be good again in the preds system.

You guys keep making this pittsburgh nashville trade too difficult.
Suter
For
Staal

Add picks on either side depending on signing status. The pens could send martin to nash if they wanted a roster d man to fill some shoes. Martin might actually be good again in the preds system.
- nails

Accepted straight up. We wouldn't want Martin.

Accepted straight up. We wouldn't want Martin.
- dgutzman

Works for me.
I have no idea how deep the preds are on youth d anymore which is why I threw martin out there

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- Maxbone

http://lowetide.ca/blog/2...-8-the-plot-thickens.html

So Griffin "better than Chuck Norris" Reinhart at #1, any thought Clouts?

1) Will LB instantly jizz in his pants?
2) Will LB ever let us hear the end of how great Reinhart is?
3) Will Pilgor's head explode?
4) Will Oilers fans drink the Kool-Aid and jump on board with this?

You guys keep making this pittsburgh nashville trade too difficult.
Suter
For
Staal

Add picks on either side depending on signing status. The pens could send martin to nash if they wanted a roster d man to fill some shoes. Martin might actually be good again in the preds system.
- nails

but at least nashville is guaranteed to have staal for a year. and a 1st round draft pick thrown in to either side isnt worth what staal or suter is. yost was very close on his trade proposal before.
Id say accept it. martins numbers fell when letang and crosby was injured and martin was pushed to a role and system that didnt suite his game. as soon as those 2 came back he was able to play his game and do well because he had the support.

thanks for the prolific blogging!

the more you write the better the blogs get

http://lowetide.ca/blog/2012/06/draft-week-post-8-the-plot-thickens.html

So Griffin "better than Chuck Norris" Reinhart at #1, any thought Clouts?

1) Will LB instantly jizz in his pants?
2) Will LB ever let us hear the end of how great Reinhart is?
3) Will Pilgor's head explode?
4) Will Oilers fans drink the Kool-Aid and jump on board with this?
- Starbuck

The Oilers aren't going to take anyone other than Yakupov 1st overall. Edmonton-area media and everyone connected with the team are just pranking the public to make this more interesting. The organization pretty much came right out and said about three weeks ago Yakupov was their boy.

However, what I can tell you is the Oilers are going nuts right now to acquire a second - 1st round pick in the Top 10, in an effort to acquire a quality defensive prospect. There are several players they like: Reinhart, Murray, Rielly, Trouba...some suggest Dumba. Ceci and Maatta are nothing to sneeze at either. Just the way the draft is going to go down, the Oil could have a shot at one of Reinhart, Murray or Rielly from the #6 spot (Anaheim's pick). The question is, how much do the Ducks want for it?

I think the Untouchables on the Oilers are Nuge, Hall, Eberle, might as well count Yakupov too...I don't think they want to move Petry, Smid, Nick Schultz, Oscar Klefbom, Devan Dubnyk...maybe a few other prospects. They're pretty much open to dealing everyone else though.

It's possible if the Oilers move up, they do so with a serious of deals. They'd need to move Hemsky and Gagner for two 1st round pick, and then move those picks to get a Top 10 pick. Sounds ridiculous when you think about it. If you could get the 20th overall pick for Hemsky from Boston, and Perhaps Washington's 11th overall pick for Gagner, perhaps those two picks could be turned into the 6th overall from Anaheim; a team that needs some prospect depth.

But the real comedy, if the Oilers traded boy Hemsky and Gagner is that they'd end up using the pick on a forward, because they'd have to. If Mikhail Grigorenko or Alex Galchenyuk were still available, they'd take one of them with Yakupov, insuring he'd have a Russian buddy with him.

The Oilers aren't going to take anyone other than Yakupov 1st overall. Edmonton-area media and everyone connected with the team are just pranking the public to make this more interesting. The organization pretty much came right out and said about three weeks ago Yakupov was their boy.

However, what I can tell you is the Oilers are going nuts right now to acquire a second - 1st round pick in the Top 10, in an effort to acquire a quality defensive prospect. There are several players they like: Reinhart, Murray, Rielly, Trouba...some suggest Dumba. Ceci and Maatta are nothing to sneeze at either. Just the way the draft is going to go down, the Oil could have a shot at one of Reinhart, Murray or Rielly from the #6 spot (Anaheim's pick). The question is, how much do the Ducks want for it?

I think the Untouchables on the Oilers are Nuge, Hall, Eberle, might as well count Yakupov too...I don't think they want to move Petry, Smid, Nick Schultz, Oscar Klefbom, Devan Dubnyk...maybe a few other prospects. They're pretty much open to dealing everyone else though.

It's possible if the Oilers move up, they do so with a serious of deals. They'd need to move Hemsky and Gagner for two 1st round pick, and then move those picks to get a Top 10 pick. Sounds ridiculous when you think about it. If you could get the 20th overall pick for Hemsky from Boston, and Perhaps Washington's 11th overall pick for Gagner, perhaps those two picks could be turned into the 6th overall from Anaheim; a team that needs some prospect depth.

But the real comedy, if the Oilers traded boy Hemsky and Gagner is that they'd end up using the pick on a forward, because they'd have to. If Mikhail Grigorenko or Alex Galchenyuk were still available, they'd take one of them with Yakupov, insuring he'd have a Russian buddy with him.
- Maxbone

except hemsky is worth a late first roubder at best... and most teams are going to want to wait to see if he can play half a season without crumpling... probably wont get good value for him until the deadline (if he stays healthy) and gagner isn't worth a first rounder by himself at all.
maybe... maybe jerseys first rounder for hemsky....
then ... here is some wild speculation... after philly trades young assets for nash, you trade gagner and mps for their 1st... then you make a deal for a top ten with those two and your second!

but at least nashville is guaranteed to have staal for a year. and a 1st round draft pick thrown in to either side isnt worth what staal or suter is. yost was very close on his trade proposal before.
Id say accept it. martins numbers fell when letang and crosby was injured and martin was pushed to a role and system that didnt suite his game. as soon as those 2 came back he was able to play his game and do well because he had the support.
- drummer829

Make it so that the pens get the press 1st rounder and maybe a player from a previously agreed upon list if they can't sign suter?
I actually think that martin isn't a bad d man as long as he has the right people around him.
Now my question is , is suter the same way?

R.I.P. Rodney King....

http://news.ca.msn.com/wo...1990s-beating-victim-dies

except hemsky is worth a late first roubder at best... and most teams are going to want to wait to see if he can play half a season without crumpling... probably wont get good value for him until the deadline (if he stays healthy) and gagner isn't worth a first rounder by himself at all.
maybe... maybe jerseys first rounder for hemsky....
then ... here is some wild speculation... after philly trades young assets for nash, you trade gagner and mps for their 1st... then you make a deal for a top ten with those two and your second!
- ChrisMS

Hemsky played great in the Worlds don't forget.

except hemsky is worth a late first roubder at best... and most teams are going to want to wait to see if he can play half a season without crumpling... probably wont get good value for him until the deadline (if he stays healthy) and gagner isn't worth a first rounder by himself at all.
maybe... maybe jerseys first rounder for hemsky....
then ... here is some wild speculation... after philly trades young assets for nash, you trade gagner and mps for their 1st... then you make a deal for a top ten with those two and your second!
- ChrisMS

If Versteeg can get us a first, Gagner can return a first.

It's possible if the Oilers move up, they do so with a serious of deals. They'd need to move Hemsky and Gagner for two 1st round pick, and then move those picks to get a Top 10 pick. Sounds ridiculous when you think about it. If you could get the 20th overall pick for Hemsky from Boston, and Perhaps Washington's 11th overall pick for Gagner, perhaps those two picks could be turned into the 6th overall from Anaheim; a team that needs some prospect depth.
- Maxbone

I think you can deal directly with Carolina for the 8th.

8th <-> Hemsky+3rd2012+Omark+??

I think you can deal directly with Carolina for the 8th.

8th <-> Hemsky+3rd2012+Omark+??
- OilHorse

I don't think that would be enough. Maybe our 2nd and 3rd. Omark has zero value

Make it so that the pens get the press 1st rounder and maybe a player from a previously agreed upon list if they can't sign suter?
I actually think that martin isn't a bad d man as long as he has the right people around him.
Now my question is , is suter the same way?
- nails

One team is going to find out. for the pens if he is paired with letang, then i think those 2 would mesh to become the best pairing in the league. If suter is with michalek, then its a little unclear.

Hemsky played great in the Worlds don't forget.
- Oilogosphere

most players in the worlds play great