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Forums :: Blog World :: Tyler Cameron: Blackhawks trade Henri Jokiharju for Alex Nylander. Why?
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Stan_Bowman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.27.2017

Jul 9 @ 5:39 PM ET
Tyler, thats what you get for titling your last blog "The Dust Is Settling"

That'll teach you for trying to read my crystal bald head
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jul 9 @ 5:39 PM ET
Buffalo will take him too. What does it take?

Is he just a cap dump at this point?

- ImThatGuy


They will need a bunch of Cap Space next summer to sign both Debrincat and Strome. CapFriendly showing the Hawks with $2mil in Cap space with only 10 forwards counting towards that Cap #.....something's gotta give.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jul 9 @ 5:40 PM ET
I like this trade Jokiharju was:

Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 9 @ 5:40 PM ET
How do they get Cap Compliant without trading Anisimov? The move tells me that StanBo views Maata and Murphy (and probably DeHaan too) as Long-Term parts of the defense Core. Boquist as the future #1 PP guy, and Keith still being a contributor until his contract expires. Seabrook, barring a miracle...not sure what they're gunna do with him.
- EnzoD


I still think AA is moved in July.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 9 @ 5:41 PM ET
Tyler, thats what you get for titling your last blog "The Dust Is Settling"

That'll teach you for trying to read my crystal bald head

- Stan_Bowman


Give me a heads up next time if your gonna pull this crap on me.

Ha.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 9 @ 5:41 PM ET
Here's my .02 on Nylander.

I went to a few Rochester Amerks games last season and watched him closely. He has great offensive instincts and has a great one timer but he refused to engage down low, fight for loose pucks and was virtually non existent in the defensive zone. He basically just skated up and down his wing and seemed disinterested.

When he was recalled, he had some good games for the Sabres.

Amerks coach Taylor worked with him to hone his overall game and he was getting better at it...but slowly. Bottom line is if he didn't get the puck for scoring opportunities he was just wasn't engaged in the game. I felt that he was heading toward bust territory. And he has also had his share of groin injuries.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 9 @ 5:42 PM ET
I like this trade Jokiharju was:


- walleyeb1


Wait until you see Nylander in the corner.
Savetheembers33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.23.2017

Jul 9 @ 5:43 PM ET
They will need a bunch of Cap Space next summer to sign both Debrincat and Strome. CapFriendly showing the Hawks with $2mil in Cap space with only 10 forwards counting towards that Cap #.....something's gotta give.
- EnzoD


Maybe they're gonna ride it out and figure it out as they go. There's some pretty good FA's out there that are still looking for contracts right now. There may not be a deal to be had for AA right now. I'm starting to think he might end up starting the season with the Hawks and they will either trade him during the season or will ride it out and figure it out next offseason. They can send down one of their Defensemen and bring up two forwards making near the minimum to start the year off. Especially if de Haan is going to start the year on the IR.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 9 @ 5:44 PM ET
You bet.

Not a fan of this move... and slightly confused so I had some initial thoughts here.

- Tyler Cameron


Relax and see how things develop.. The sun will rise tomorrow morning.

Nylander in at 863K cap hit vs Perlini out, at 1.5M cap hit, me thinks.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 9 @ 5:44 PM ET
If he wont go to corners, he is not a fit with 19/88...so people - including JC - shouldnt consider it

It's no secret those 2 have success with forwards who will drive the net and create space. Its why when Caggulia was with them, they had success. When the Drake went down and they began rotating guys there...Kane's number dipped.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 9 @ 5:44 PM ET
Wait until you see Nylander in the corner.
- Tyler Cameron


You’ll never see him there.

I kid.....Kind of.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 9 @ 5:45 PM ET
Buffalo will take him too. What does it take?

Is he just a cap dump at this point?

- ImThatGuy


Honestly, this move would have made more sense if it was:

Jokiharju, Anisimov for Nylander + prospect/picks

--

Anisimov is a useful player but his time in Chicago seems to be coming to an end.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jul 9 @ 5:46 PM ET
Wait until you see Nylander in the corner.
- Tyler Cameron


New @NHLBlackhawks forward @snipeshow98 is already kicking caps and taking names in his new sweater.

#BottleCapChallenge (🎥 via Alex Nylander's IG)

https://twitter.com/nbcsb.../1148709068682477569?s=21
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 9 @ 5:48 PM ET
You’ll never see him there.

I kid.....Kind of.

- ImThatGuy


Exactly.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 9 @ 5:48 PM ET
Honestly, this move would have made more sense if it was:

Jokiharju, Anisimov for Nylander + prospect/picks

--

Anisimov is a useful player but his time in Chicago seems to be coming to an end.

- Tyler Cameron


I always thought a deal involving Sheary for AA swap made sense.

Saves CHI 1.5 this year
Plays both wings can play up and down.
UFA next year.
contracom
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 02.13.2019

Jul 9 @ 5:49 PM ET
That is just plain stupid!
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 9 @ 5:49 PM ET
I like this trade Jokiharju was:


- walleyeb1


Joker was a lavender sniffer? Good riddance then!!
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 9 @ 5:49 PM ET
I like this trade Jokiharju was:


- walleyeb1


Nylander won't add toughness, but if he can finally get it together in Chicago, he will add scoring. Sabres (frank)ed his development up badly. Murray made him the youngest player in the AHL, and he was immediately in over his head. He was eligible for juniors or Sweden, and they chose to send him to Roch. From there, he was hurt, and his effort was questionable for stretches. They say he has immense talent, but he was never able to manage consistency in the Sabres system.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jul 9 @ 5:50 PM ET
Honestly, this move would have made more sense if it was:

Jokiharju, Anisimov for Nylander + prospect/picks

--

Anisimov is a useful player but his time in Chicago seems to be coming to an end.

- Tyler Cameron


Joki and AA for Middlestadt would have been acceptable. Good young D and a serviceable 3C under contract for a couple of years for a young C seems even to me.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 9 @ 5:50 PM ET
New @NHLBlackhawks forward @snipeshow98 is already kicking caps and taking names in his new sweater.

#BottleCapChallenge (🎥 via Alex Nylander's IG)

https://twitter.com/nbcsb.../1148709068682477569?s=21

- walleyeb1


His Dad's jersey?

People do remember Michael played for Chicago, right?
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 5:50 PM ET
You bet.

Not a fan of this move... and slightly confused so I had some initial thoughts here.

- Tyler Cameron

Maybe imo bowman sees kane doing what he did with the bread man and can help mold him and bring out that untapped potential as the 8th overall draft pick in his draft year.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 9 @ 5:52 PM ET
Here's my .02 on Nylander.

I went to a few Rochester Amerks games last season and watched him closely. He has great offensive instincts and has a great one timer but he refused to engage down low, fight for loose pucks and was virtually non existent in the defensive zone. He basically just skated up and down his wing and seemed disinterested.

When he was recalled, he had some good games for the Sabres.

Amerks coach Taylor worked with him to hone his overall game and he was getting better at it...but slowly. Bottom line is if he didn't get the puck for scoring opportunities he was just wasn't engaged in the game. I felt that he was heading toward bust territory. And he has also had his share of groin injuries.

- mhp


Thanks for the insight, mhp!
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jul 9 @ 5:52 PM ET
Give me a heads up next time if your gonna pull this crap on me.

Ha.

- Tyler Cameron

Would see hawks trade joki for another young center bennett from Calgary to use as an example.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jul 9 @ 5:52 PM ET
This move is a little puzzling to me but maybe it’s as simple as Bowman and/or Coliton not feeing Joki was gonna play on the big club this year and some combination of Mitchell/Boquist/Beaudin/whomever will. At that point you are giving up a #29 pick for a #8 and hopes for a bigger upside with Nylander.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jul 9 @ 5:52 PM ET
His Dad's jersey?

People do remember Michael played for Chicago, right?

- Tyler Cameron


Probably it’s the old style.
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