jvr if he hits the market

neal as well


I don't think either get traded though
- homiedclown

Hard to imagine they would
Both teams are pretty much locked into the playoffs

I could think of 5 million reasons to send him overseas, if he doesn't retire.
- 51_Killer

Seriously. I would also put up with another lockout if it means that sucktastic players like Moulson and Leino are held accountable for being truly terrible.

I get having a bad season, but this is ridiculous. Teams need to have some recourse if a player completely falls apart.

Yeah, i know, no one forced the Sabres to sign him to that deal, but shouldn't the player have a responsibility to at least score a point in 15 games?

What about a clause that players can retire and get paid their salary if they're over 30 or something and there's no cap hit, but they can't unretire for 5 years or something

jvr if he hits the market

neal as well


I don't think either get traded though
- homiedclown

JVR wont. Leafs still think they can make the playoffs. Price too high on Neal and VEgas is a budget conscious team that wont eat salary to move him

This place is going to call for Botts head when he doesnt bring back forsberg for kane

time's up
- homiedclown

There's 90 MILLION unemployed adults in America

I know your brain has a hard time grasping things after 1980, but that also includes 20-30 years old who mostly can't find work because 60 year old men refuse to retire on their wonderful pensions they keep milking and it's destroying the job market

Not to mention, the working class is 90% of this country's workforce and they are uneducated and ignorant to the propaganda machine telling them there's gender wage-gaps (there really isn't), that women don't have equal opportunity (they do) and at the same time, men are exploited for child support by women who purposefully lock guys down knowing it's 18 years of extra income.

There aren't any jobs. The highest industry only employs about 4 million people and that's the health service industry IIRC.

JVR wont. Leafs still think they can make the playoffs. Price too high on Neal and VEgas is a budget conscious team that wont eat salary to move him
- lulags

Caveat: if the Leafs can trade JVR for a defenceman of equal talent, I think they trade him at the deadline.

There's 90 MILLION unemployed adults in America

I know your brain has a hard time grasping things after 1980, but that also includes 20-30 years old who mostly can't find work because 60 year old men refuse to retire on their wonderful pensions they keep milking and it's destroying the job market

Not to mention, the working class is 90% of this country's workforce and they are uneducated and ignorant to the propaganda machine telling them there's gender wage-gaps (there really isn't), that women don't have equal opportunity (they do) and at the same time, men are exploited for child support by women who purposefully lock guys down knowing it's 18 years of extra income.

There aren't any jobs. The highest industry only employs about 4 million people and that's the health service industry IIRC.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Didn't take long for the new blog to go completely moronic.


Oh yeah,. LUONGO...

There's 90 MILLION unemployed adults in America

I know your brain has a hard time grasping things after 1980, but that also includes 20-30 years old who mostly can't find work because 60 year old men refuse to retire on their wonderful pensions they keep milking and it's destroying the job market

Not to mention, the working class is 90% of this country's workforce and they are uneducated and ignorant to the propaganda machine telling them there's gender wage-gaps (there really isn't), that women don't have equal opportunity (they do) and at the same time, men are exploited for child support by women who purposefully lock guys down knowing it's 18 years of extra income.

There aren't any jobs. The highest industry only employs about 4 million people and that's the health service industry IIRC.
- BeadyEyedDouche

work 3 part time jobs then

swallow the pride, deliver pizzas, hang outside home depot looking for work
knock on doors to shovel snow etc



I did all that crap while going to college and nobody had to tell me to do it

This place is going to call for Botts head when he doesnt bring back forsberg for kane
- Sabresfan-365

Or just say we told u so when we get better than a “b” prospect & a 2nd

work 3 part time jobs then

swallow the pride, deliver pizzas, hang outside home depot looking for work
knock on doors to shovel snow etc



I did all that crap while going to college and nobody had to tell me to do it
- homiedclown

I know ppl making $1000/week driving for Uber, delivering for Skip the dishes, etc

There's 90 MILLION unemployed adults in America

I know your brain has a hard time grasping things after 1980, but that also includes 20-30 years old who mostly can't find work because 60 year old men refuse to retire on their wonderful pensions they keep milking and it's destroying the job market

Not to mention, the working class is 90% of this country's workforce and they are uneducated and ignorant to the propaganda machine telling them there's gender wage-gaps (there really isn't), that women don't have equal opportunity (they do) and at the same time, men are exploited for child support by women who purposefully lock guys down knowing it's 18 years of extra income.

There aren't any jobs. The highest industry only employs about 4 million people and that's the health service industry IIRC.
- BeadyEyedDouche

now to get to the meat of the bone

1. pensions are a thing of the past

2. there are 10 dollar an hour jobs out there all the time, people with degrees don't take them

3. those on welfare have no incentive to get off it

4. this country is dumb


again if I can make $300 a week flipping taylor swift tickets, anyone with half a brain can make money


instead they are biting tide pods



survival of the fittest, and for some I hope "time's up"

I know ppl making $1000/week driving for Uber, delivering for Skip the dishes, etc
- jdfitz77

Damn... Uber only told me I'd make $250 a week in Nashville.

work 3 part time jobs then

swallow the pride, deliver pizzas, hang outside home depot looking for work
knock on doors to shovel snow etc



I did all that crap while going to college and nobody had to tell me to do it
- homiedclown

But I thought illegals were taking all our jobs?
(Sarcasm)

I know ppl making $1000/week driving for Uber, delivering for Skip the dishes, etc
- jdfitz77

all kinds of money to be made


they decide to play video games and blame others instead of hitting the pavement and manning up

work 3 part time jobs then

swallow the pride, deliver pizzas, hang outside home depot looking for work
knock on doors to shovel snow etc



I did all that crap while going to college and nobody had to tell me to do it
- homiedclown

When you went to college, those kind of jobs probably paid for your school. Those kind of jobs barely pay for school books these days.

Damn... Uber only told me I'd make $250 a week in Nashville.
- jochfr

I know a guy, does it friday and saturday nights only

makes $400 for those 2 nights

Or just say we told u so when we get better than a “b” prospect & a 2nd
- jdfitz77

Im just curious on what you think the return is, for example if Calgary is the trade partner do you expect.

Adam Fox/Oliver Kylington, 1st rd pick and conditional pick?

I just don't see it unless Buffalo adds to the trade like Hanzal.

Damn... Uber only told me I'd make $250 a week in Nashville.
- jochfr

That’s probably the average for ppl who just do it part time

But if u do it at peak hours (fri/sat till 5am), and do it full time...

Most ppl won’t put that effort into it though

When you went to college, those kind of jobs probably paid for your school. Those kind of jobs barely pay for school books these days.
- jcragcrumple

which is why I tell the young people


go in the service or start your own job


unless you want to go in the med field, be a lawyer or teacher

Or just say we told u so when we get better than a “b” prospect & a 2nd
- jdfitz77

i actually said 1st rounder, b prospect and conditional pick.


I only brought up the quote to point out that when both sides meet in the middle this deal probably wont include guys like bellows or whatever

now to get to the meat of the bone

1. pensions are a thing of the past

2. there are 10 dollar an hour jobs out there all the time, people with degrees don't take them

3. those on welfare have no incentive to get off it

4. this country is dumb


again if I can make $300 a week flipping taylor swift tickets, anyone with half a brain can make money


instead they are biting tide pods



survival of the fittest, and for some I hope "time's up"
- homiedclown

Taking a $10 an hour job when you have a degree is literally the dumbest thing you can do.

You will NEVER pay off your loans that way, and you'll be living below the poverty line for the rest of your life. It's untenable

Or just say we told u so when we get better than a “b” prospect & a 2nd
- jdfitz77

Honestly, I think it'll be a b prospect and a first. I know, as a pens fan, no one would cry if the pens gave up a first and a player like Simon.

Taking a $10 an hour job when you have a degree is literally the dumbest thing you can do.

You will NEVER pay off your loans that way, and you'll be living below the poverty line for the rest of your life. It's untenable
- jcragcrumple

The average School loan payment I think I read is close to $1,000 a month.
Average apartment is $900 a month
Car Payment say another $200 a month

$10 per hour even at 50 hours a week. $500 X 70% is 350 X 52 week /12 montsh is roughly 1500 a month/

Expenses 2100 a month
Income 1500 a month

Im just curious on what you think the return is, for example if Calgary is the trade partner do you expect.

Adam Fox/Oliver Kylington, 1st rd pick and conditional pick?

I just don't see it unless Buffalo adds to the trade like Hanzal.
- ImThatGuy

I can’t speak on what a particular GM will be willing to give up

My hope is that we can find the dumbass who will give up a 1st for Goose or Forsberg for Erat type deal

Do I EXPECT that to happen?
No

But I’m not dismissing we’ll get a good deal

What would I personally take?
Something like Bellows & a 2nd
Pick turns to a 1st if Kane re-signs

I do think there’s potential to get more though

Botts didn’t “raise the price” on a whim
He did it bc there’s A LOT of interest

Taking a $10 an hour job when you have a degree is literally the dumbest thing you can do.

You will NEVER pay off your loans that way, and you'll be living below the poverty line for the rest of your life. It's untenable
- jcragcrumple

you work it til you get something


hell go buy a vacuum cleaner, a pressure washer and a few cloths

detail cars

you will make $30 an hour


lots of money to be made


I know a lot of people my age, when they were married and had a kid in the oven, the other worked part time at a fast food joint or delivered pizzas on top of their 40 hour a week job



again, they just need to get off their a$$es and don't buy a $700 phone every year