Bills are going to put together the best looking team they've had since i was 3, Brady leaves the pats so the division is basically free, and the season is going to end up cancelled or some poop

Either one. One year 2 million max. Can do that every year with a re tread until singletary needs to be replaced
- Fattony1187

i'd prefer to just draft one in the 6th round every season then bring in 3 or 4 UDFA

theres no way that isn't more likely to pay off than bringing in a washed up big name

i'd prefer to just draft one in the 6th round every season then bring in 3 or 4 UDFA

theres no way that isn't more likely to pay off than bringing in a washed up big name
- robz228

The law of averages with RBs is that they are easily replaceable. Production isn't drastically different from the cream of the crop, to the average.

Yes there are a few outliers, but in general, you can get by with a "value" player.

The law of averages with RBs is that they are easily replaceable. Production isn't drastically different from the cream of the crop, to the average.

Yes there are a few outliers, but in general, you can get by with a "value" player.
- thatsapickle

RBs get such a raw deal these days and it starts in college.

Todd Gurley is 25 and his career is all but over already because his knees are shot.

AT 35 he is not going to be able to walk.

RBs get such a raw deal these days and it starts in college.

Todd Gurley is 25 and his career is all but over already because his knees are shot.

AT 35 he is not going to be able to walk.
- ImThatGuy

He will probably retire in 3 years

RBs get such a raw deal these days and it starts in college.

Todd Gurley is 25 and his career is all but over already because his knees are shot.

AT 35 he is not going to be able to walk.
- ImThatGuy

Hopefully that starts to change. I dont think that a full athletic scholarship compensates these players sufficiently when the schools are a billion dollar industry.

I would divorce high end athletics from the college education system entirely. Obviously that's never going to happen, but the student athlete system is very broken on a lot of levels

RBs get such a raw deal these days and it starts in college.

Todd Gurley is 25 and his career is all but over already because his knees are shot.

AT 35 he is not going to be able to walk.
- ImThatGuy

He is getting 34.5M from that contract, with a chance at an extra 10.5M because of the injury clause in that contract. Then he signed another contract for additional pay. 34.5M + possible 10.5M + new contract hardly sounds like a raw deal.

I don't disagree that RBs are getting a raw deal in general. He's just not one of them.

Bills are going to put together the best looking team they've had since i was 3, Brady leaves the pats so the division is basically free, and the season is going to end up cancelled or some poop
- robz228

Sucks there probably won’t be football this year

Hopefully that starts to change. I dont think that a full athletic scholarship compensates these players sufficiently when the schools are a billion dollar industry.

I would divorce high end athletics from the college education system entirely. Obviously that's never going to happen, but the student athlete system is very broken on a lot of levels
- jcragcrumple

It's like Luke Kuechly. The toll the game took on him shortened his career drastically.

if they are going to start implementing compensation for student athletes, which they deserve because of the cash cow they create, there needs to be a focus on protecting assets for their own sake rather than just the pockets of the schools. Especially for players that are under the most severe contact. Running Backs and Line Backers seem to have the highest amount of impact plays, but I also have no data to prove this.

Falcons had a top 5 offence last year.

You don’t need an elite QB, you need efficiency on offence in any way shape or form and an elite defence.
- Pegullaville

I don't disagree that a team can be built that way. But the team that just won the super bowl says the complete opposite of this. Average defense with an elite QB. Also, Ryan was generally bad early in games last year and faced a lot of "don't be beat deep" defenses late in games that allowed a bunch of yards.

kyle shanahan has moved the meter from "all that matters is the QB" towards "gameplans are everything" for me

the bills even had a bit of that this year. they were wizards on the opening two drives then sort of fell apart after that. so theres something to be said for great gamplanning.

It's like Luke Kuechly. The toll the game took on him shortened his career drastically.

if they are going to start implementing compensation for student athletes, which they deserve because of the cash cow they create, there needs to be a focus on protecting assets for their own sake rather than just the pockets of the schools. Especially for players that are under the most severe contact. Running Backs and Line Backers seem to have the highest amount of impact plays, but I also have no data to prove this.
- thatsapickle

If the XFL survives, they may be able to put sufficient pressure on the NCAA to change some of that

I don't think NCAA players should get paid.

That's the price of making it in the pros.

They get scholarships and grants - They also somehow manage 4.0's when they really have 2.0's, somehow?

At the end of the day, athletes get paid too much as it is, if you play for a college sports team, you're still a student and I don't think it should be paid for past tuition and other dorm-related expenses.

What's next, pay high schoolers?

I get that the athletes are somewhat exploited... but again, comes with the territory, and you're trying to become like, 3% of the NCAA body by becoming pro. You have to work for it.

Jesus, by the time they're 22, most of them can be millionaires - Why should some jaggoff 18-year old riding the pine get paid like it's his job? You didn't sign a contract, you joined a club, have fun and shut up.

I don't disagree that a team can be built that way. But the team that just won the super bowl says the complete opposite of this. Average defense with an elite QB. Also, Ryan was generally bad early in games last year and faced a lot of "don't be beat deep" defenses late in games that allowed a bunch of yards.
- SDSabre

1) The Chiefs defence gave up 14PPG the last half of the season, there were a very good defence.

2) Kyle Shanahan choked away that game because he put the game in the hands of Goroppolo instead of continuing to run the ball down the the Chiefs throat.

Mahomes had a 49.7 QBR with 6 minutes left to go in that game.

Darrien Williams and the Chiefs holding the 49ers to field goals in the first half, and next to nothing in the 2nd half won that Super Bowl not Patrick Mahomes.

Patrick Mahomes got them there though, no doubt.

I don't think NCAA players should get paid.

That's the price of making it in the pros.

They get scholarships and grants - They also somehow manage 4.0's when they really have 2.0's, somehow?

At the end of the day, athletes get paid too much as it is, if you play for a college sports team, you're still a student and I don't think it should be paid for past tuition and other dorm-related expenses.

What's next, pay high schoolers?

I get that the athletes are somewhat exploited... but again, comes with the territory, and you're trying to become like, 3% of the NCAA body by becoming pro. You have to work for it.

Jesus, by the time they're 22, most of them can be millionaires - Why should some jaggoff 18-year old riding the pine get paid like it's his job? You didn't sign a contract, you joined a club, have fun and shut up.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Should stop paying athletes anything more then our salaries. This crisis shows how irrelevant and how unimportant their jobs really are.

I don't think NCAA players should get paid.

That's the price of making it in the pros.

They get scholarships and grants - They also somehow manage 4.0's when they really have 2.0's, somehow?

At the end of the day, athletes get paid too much as it is, if you play for a college sports team, you're still a student and I don't think it should be paid for past tuition and other dorm-related expenses.

What's next, pay high schoolers?

I get that the athletes are somewhat exploited... but again, comes with the territory, and you're trying to become like, 3% of the NCAA body by becoming pro. You have to work for it.

Jesus, by the time they're 22, most of them can be millionaires - Why should some jaggoff 18-year old riding the pine get paid like it's his job? You didn't sign a contract, you joined a club, have fun and shut up.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Why should a D1 football offensive line coach make $350,000? He shouldn't, but he does, so the athletes should see a piece of that too

Theres a disparity in how the accumulated wealth is dispersed. And no, I'm not going all Marxist. It just seems fundamentally unfair

Should stop paying athletes anything more then our salaries. This crisis shows how irrelevant and how unimportant their jobs really are.
- Fattony1187

Yeah I disagree those athletes deserve everything for the work they put in ..

If you Spent a week in their body you would understand the brutal pain They go through every single day And all the hard work and dedication to get where they're

1) The Chiefs defence gave up 14PPG the last half of the season, there were a very good defence.

2) Kyle Shanahan choked away that game because he put the game in the hands of Goroppolo instead of continuing to run the ball down the the Chiefs throat.

Mahomes had a 49.7 QBR with 6 minutes left to go in that game.

Darrien Williams and the Chiefs holding the 49ers to field goals in the first half, and next to nothing in the 2nd half won that Super Bowl not Patrick Mahomes.

Patrick Mahomes got them there though, no doubt.
- Pegullaville

And the last 6 min? I know you just said Patrick Mahomes got them through, but come on. (It was also Damien Williams, not Darren). My whole point was that you just said that to win you need an elite defense (SF) and an above average offense (also SF). Chiefs are an elite offense headed by and elite QB with an above average offense. So to bring full circle, I still say as Ryan goes, so do the Falcons.

I don't think NCAA players should get paid.

That's the price of making it in the pros.

They get scholarships and grants - They also somehow manage 4.0's when they really have 2.0's, somehow?

At the end of the day, athletes get paid too much as it is, if you play for a college sports team, you're still a student and I don't think it should be paid for past tuition and other dorm-related expenses.

What's next, pay high schoolers?

I get that the athletes are somewhat exploited... but again, comes with the territory, and you're trying to become like, 3% of the NCAA body by becoming pro. You have to work for it.

Jesus, by the time they're 22, most of them can be millionaires - Why should some jaggoff 18-year old riding the pine get paid like it's his job? You didn't sign a contract, you joined a club, have fun and shut up.
- BeadyEyedDouche

my issue with the lack of compensation is that some savvy fan is able to go to a signing event that a promising player will be at, then get their autograph, and make a profit.

Any pro that has an event like that, gets paid for their time. As a student, they should be compensated for their time since they cannot use that time to study.

I'm not saying it's a perfect argument, but the top of the top players in the NCAA are able to skate by in school to look like an All-American Student in Underwater Basket Weaving or whatever dumb class they are in defeats the purpose of them being in school all together.

Why should a D1 football offensive line coach make $350,000? He shouldn't, but he does, so the athletes should see a piece of that too

Theres a disparity in how the accumulated wealth is dispersed. And no, I'm not going all Marxist. It just seems fundamentally unfair
- jcragcrumple

Nick Saban makes 12 Million a year.

Or enough to pay each of his 90 players 133,333 per year.

I don't understand why people are still partying for Spring break In Miami smh. ... Let's just keep spreading it around

my issue with the lack of compensation is that some savvy fan is able to go to a signing event that a promising player will be at, then get their autograph, and make a profit.

Any pro that has an event like that, gets paid for their time. As a student, they should be compensated for their time since they cannot use that time to study.

I'm not saying it's a perfect argument, but the top of the top players in the NCAA are able to skate by in school to look like an All-American Student in Underwater Basket Weaving or whatever dumb class they are in defeats the purpose of them being in school all together.
- thatsapickle

The NCAA is as corrupt as it gets, but that a whole other discussion

Why should a D1 football offensive line coach make $350,000? He shouldn't, but he does, so the athletes should see a piece of that too

Theres a disparity in how the accumulated wealth is dispersed. And no, I'm not going all Marxist. It just seems fundamentally unfair
- jcragcrumple

It has nothing to with the students.

I propose an olympic village like venue to gather athletes and team staff of the NBA/NHL that is quarantined from the rest of the world so that they can play games and televise them. Tests to be conducted on everyone prior to travel to the village to ensure it is a clean environment. It would be awesome and provide sports fans around the world entertainment they desperately need through the pandemic.

I know what you're thinking and the answer is yes. I am a genius.

Nick Saban makes 12 Million a year.

Or enough to pay each of his 90 players 133,333 per year.
- ImThatGuy

Idk enough about Title IX but wouldn't you have to pay all players (there are more then 90, with walk-ons etc.) and all sports (diving, gymnastics, fencing, everything) and wouldn't the wages have to be the same across the board? Not saying I agree, as football obviously makes the most money (I think most of the others lose it, but can't confirm) but just wouldn't that be a sticking point in this. Also, do you pay the same at Alabama as United Christ Church of Tennessess of Florida, or does each school set the price throwing a large divide in how much you can earn at each school, thus creating a large imbalance in power for certain schools (that's already in place). I agree that they should be paid, just playing a little devils advocate in something other than politics.