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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 25 @ 5:21 PM ET
[quote=Glak18]
Re Enders Game:

Thought they did a decent job with the film, stuff like that is never easy to adapt.

To me, the hardest classic sci-fi book to adapt to film has always been Dune. I’m holding out some hope for the upcoming films though. The fact that they’re doing it as 2 films makes me think they may have a shot to finally do it right.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 25 @ 5:23 PM ET
Provorov, Sanheim, Ghost, Morin, Hagg, Myers.

We are the mid 2000’s Nashville Predators.

- SuperSchennBros

so we won't win a cup?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 25 @ 5:23 PM ET
[quote=Glak18]

Hated it. Hated most of the movie. But especially the ending.

In the movie, Ender towers of Bonzo, Bernard is a good guy, Bean is regular sized, and the armies are like 6 people. Aside from Bean, they could have EASILY stuck to the book. Battle room was cool, though.

And the ending just killed the chance of adapting any of the other books.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 25 @ 5:37 PM ET
Re Enders Game:

Thought they did a decent job with the film, stuff like that is never easy to adapt.

To me, the hardest classic sci-fi book to adapt to film has always been Dune. I’m holding out some hope for the upcoming films though. The fact that they’re doing it as 2 films makes me think they may have a shot to finally do it right.

- BiggE


My first thought was it tends to be either good or totally bad...

A good Dune would be AMAZING!

Hated it. Hated most of the movie. But especially the ending.

In the movie, Ender towers of Bonzo, Bernard is a good guy, Bean is regular sized, and the armies are like 6 people. Aside from Bean, they could have EASILY stuck to the book. Battle room was cool, though.

And the ending just killed the chance of adapting any of the other books.

- jmatchett383


I enjoyed the movie, but I can understand where you are coming from based off the books. The biggest problem with movie adaptations is someone, I don't know who, decides the source material is never good enough so they have to change it to appeal to an audience that knows nothing about the original.

Perfect examples are Witcher and Monster Hunter (soon to be Resident Evil series)...they are changing the source so much that they will alienate their actual fans for people who probably don't care anyway as long as it has cool CGI.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 25 @ 5:40 PM ET
My first thought was it tends to be either good or totally bad...

A good Dune would be AMAZING!



I enjoyed the movie, but I can understand where you are coming from based off the books. The biggest problem with movie adaptations is someone, I don't know who, decides the source material is never good enough so they have to change it to appeal to an audience that knows nothing about the original.

Perfect examples are Witcher and Monster Hunter (soon to be Resident Evil series)...they are changing the source so much that they will alienate their actual fans for people who probably don't care anyway as long as it has cool CGI.

- Glak18


The problem with adapting something like Ender’s Game is that half of the book is basically Ender in his own head. Stuff like that doesn’t translate well to film.
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Jan 25 @ 5:52 PM ET
The problem with adapting something like Ender’s Game is that half of the book is basically Ender in his own head. Stuff like that doesn’t translate well to film.
- BiggE

That’s why I don’t think they will ever adapt Dan Simmons Hyperion Cantos. The amount of descriptive narration is the problem.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 25 @ 5:59 PM ET
That’s why I don’t think they will ever adapt Dan Simmons Hyperion Cantos. The amount of descriptive narration is the problem.
- Shrike

Hyperion would be extremely difficult to adapt, better they just don’t. Some books just don’t translate well to film. Even fantasy, which tends to be more visual, is difficult to do right. I’m a huge fan of Jordan’s Wheel of Time series, but man, that would be impossible to get right on film. Hell, if LOTR took three long films, Wheel of Time would take a dozen.
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Jan 25 @ 6:06 PM ET
Hyperion would be extremely difficult to adapt, better they just don’t. Some books just don’t translate well to film. Even fantasy, which tends to be more visual, is difficult to do right. I’m a huge fan of Jordan’s Wheel of Time series, but man, that would be impossible to get right on film. Hell, if LOTR took three long films, Wheel of Time would take a dozen.
- BiggE

Dan Simmons said on his website forum that he would tell the Hyperion stories around a campfire setting, which I thought was a decent idea. But in the end he said he already sold the film rights so at this point he doesn’t care anymore.
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Jan 25 @ 6:12 PM ET
I really liked the Mars trilogy and got excited for that Mars series until I realized it was an Elon musk space x commercial.

I think they could do a good 10 or 12 hour mini series of the Mars trilogy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:17 PM ET
I'm not getting into a 20 page debate with you today because of 1 case in 100 years of NHL history that has nothing to do with the fact teams find ways around rules all the time.

- youarewrong


There wouldn't be much of a debate because it has become obvious with the example of the Kovalchuk situation that you arent' aware of elements of the CBA that the NHL can use in situations like the one you were discussing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 25 @ 6:21 PM ET
I think the league and teams would have to go to arbitration over it at the least because teams do things to prevent the rules all the time... you dont think Coyotes trading for Prongers contract to get to the league minimum even though they knew he would never play a game again isn't bending the rules?

It would be a slippery slope, and I do think that instead of trading a player and getting the same guy back, the better idea is to use VGK as an "offshore account" to hold 2 players traded for each other until after the draft. Absolutely nothing the league could do about that.

- youarewrong


No, the Pronger trade was not bending the rules and more importantly was not in the realm of what the NHL cares most about and why there is a salary cap.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 25 @ 6:54 PM ET
Top 5 recent Black Metal Albums

Deafheaven-Sunbather
Krallice-Diotima
Haunted Shores-Viscera
Deafheaven-New Bermuda
Wolves in the Throne Room-Thrice Woven
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 25 @ 7:03 PM ET
Top 5 recent Black Metal Albums

Deafheaven-Sunbather
Krallice-Diotima
Haunted Shores-Viscera
Deafheaven-New Bermuda
Wolves in the Throne Room-Thrice Woven

- Mordecai


post of the day
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 25 @ 7:05 PM ET
The problem with adapting something like Ender’s Game is that half of the book is basically Ender in his own head. Stuff like that doesn’t translate well to film.
- BiggE


So true. The giant's drink sequence, for instance, is more about Ender's struggle than the actual game.

That said, the original Mistborn trilogy would work very well, I think.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 25 @ 7:18 PM ET
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 25 @ 7:25 PM ET

- hereticpride


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 25 @ 8:00 PM ET
Top 5 recent Black Metal Albums

Deafheaven-Sunbather
Krallice-Diotima
Haunted Shores-Viscera
Deafheaven-New Bermuda
Wolves in the Throne Room-Thrice Woven

- Mordecai


Not a single band name with an umlaut.

/all posers
//kidding I have no idea
RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Jan 25 @ 8:42 PM ET
Vikings
- jmatchett383


Fantastic show

Makes me want to start a band called Blood Eagle..

Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 25 @ 8:57 PM ET
Not a single band name with an umlaut.

/all posers
//kidding I have no idea

- johndewar

2019, the year of the Ü
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 25 @ 9:02 PM ET
Top 5 recent Black Metal Albums

Deafheaven-Sunbather
Krallice-Diotima
Haunted Shores-Viscera
Deafheaven-New Bermuda
Wolves in the Throne Room-Thrice Woven

- Mordecai


Not recent but today I was listening to the almighty Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin At Dusk.. It still holds up

Also Chelsea Wolfe - Feral Love
Xasthur
Striborg
Luna Aurora
Mournful Congregation

Damn it, when did I become that tr00 kvlt dude talking about obscure black metal bands. Need some Loudness - Rock and Roll Crazy Nights to make me happy.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 25 @ 9:09 PM ET
Not recent but today I was listening to the almighty Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin At Dusk.. It still holds up

Also Chelsea Wolfe - Feral Love
Xasthur
Striborg
Luna Aurora
Mournful Congregation

Damn it, when did I become that tr00 kvlt dude talking about obscure black metal bands. Need some Loudness - Rock and Roll Crazy Nights to make me happy.

- opeth_pa

Xasthur

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 25 @ 9:36 PM ET
[quote=jmatchett383]


I just finished Enders Game again for probably the 20th time.

The movie was a disappointment. I felt it would have been better served as a series or an animated series like Star Wars Clone Wars. Then they could have opened up the whole universe with the Shadow books as well.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 25 @ 9:44 PM ET
I hate Kris Letang so (frank)in much and I feel like I just figured the league out. Letang keeps undeservingly making All-Star rosters. Which is probably why Letang was able to get away with blatant cross checking calls on Giroux in the playoffs last season. Aparently Kris Letang must be a bigger star than Giroux.

Edit

Letang is having an all star season this season but last season was completely undeserving and Ghost easily should have made it one year ago.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jan 25 @ 10:08 PM ET
Opeth- watershed
Dream Theater- scenes from a memory
Porcupine tree- in absentia
Queensryche- operation mindcrime
Fates warning- perfect symmetry
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jan 25 @ 10:11 PM ET
Great skills Claude! Just behind Kane
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