Sure. Me too. So give me a reasonable example of how you would get someone better who fits within the cap. And by reasonable, you can't assume trading Johnson or Gudbranson
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I believe that trading Rust for straight up cap relief is a smarter move than trading him for another bottom pairing defenseman. Taking that cap space into the season and using it to upgrade when the time is needed seems like a smarter bet.

Unless they are able to package one of JJ/Guddy with Rust (which is reasonable if he can sell them on the clutch two time cup winner bs that some GMs believe in) which would give them close to 7m of cap relief. There’s 2M for Pettersson. Leaving 5 mil for in season moves.

Wait about 5 days and get Brendan Smith for 1m after NYR buys him out.
- Feds91Stammer

I don't think he's a better player than Johns...but I could live with him for $1M.

Mark Divver
@MarkDivver
Like this trade for Pens. Look for Marino to forgo senior season, sign with Pitt. Will play NHL games this season, IMO


One positive opinion... everything else I read seems like he's not an NHL caliber player

edit: from rutherford: "John is a mobile defenseman who excels at moving the puck while also playing with an edge to his game," said Rutherford. "We are excited to acquire him as we continue to add defensive depth to the organization. The next step is to work on getting a contract done with him."

7 or 8 year contract?

Mark Divver
@MarkDivver
Like this trade for Pens. Look for Marino to forgo senior season, sign with Pitt. Will play NHL games this season, IMO


One positive opinion... everything else I read seems like he's not an NHL caliber player
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Well we traded nothing for him so he probably isn’t.

I don't think he's a better player than Johns...but I could live with him for $1M.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Johns missed the entire 18-19 season due to concussion issues. You have no idea what you’re getting with him. Also smith can play either side.

Mark Divver
@MarkDivver
Like this trade for Pens. Look for Marino to forgo senior season, sign with Pitt. Will play NHL games this season, IMO


One positive opinion... everything else I read seems like he's not an NHL caliber player

edit: from rutherford: "John is a mobile defenseman who excels at moving the puck while also playing with an edge to his game," said Rutherford. "We are excited to acquire him as we continue to add defensive depth to the organization. The next step is to work on getting a contract done with him."

7 or 8 year contract?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Lmao he will probably barely be able to hack it in the ahl. Nhl??? Gtfoh

I don't think he's a better player than Johns...but I could live with him for $1M.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I’d say Johns and Smith are about equals.

Johns missed the entire 18-19 season due to concussion issues. You have no idea what you’re getting with him. Also smith can play either side.
- Feds91Stammer

I mean fair enough. I'm just saying the argument boyd was making is he wants a better player than Johns. Smith would be serviceable and more of a sure thing, but point is its going to be hard to add a defenseman better than that.

You really think he'd sign for $1M though? I mean he's super inconsistent and theres a reason he's being bought out...but still...every team could use cheap D-men.

Lmao he will probably barely be able to hack it in the ahl. Nhl??? Gtfoh
- Feds91Stammer

obviously was sarcasm on the 7 or 8 year contract...

Mark Divver
@MarkDivver
Like this trade for Pens. Look for Marino to forgo senior season, sign with Pitt. Will play NHL games this season, IMO


One positive opinion... everything else I read seems like he's not an NHL caliber player

edit: from rutherford: "John is a mobile defenseman who excels at moving the puck while also playing with an edge to his game," said Rutherford. "We are excited to acquire him as we continue to add defensive depth to the organization. The next step is to work on getting a contract done with him."

7 or 8 year contract?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Who's Mark Divver?

I mean fair enough. I'm just saying the argument boyd was making is he wants a better player than Johns. Smith would be serviceable and more of a sure thing, but point is its going to be hard to add a defenseman better than that.

You really think he'd sign for $1M though? I mean he's super inconsistent and theres a reason he's being bought out...but still...every team could use cheap D-men.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Schultz is a UW buddy of Smith so I could see it happening and he will sign cheap because he has to and is getting buyout money. Johns would be a stupid add especially at the cost of Rust.

Who's Mark Divver?
- MattStrat

Well he thinks this plug is nhl material so probably a crackhead.

You sir, have the imagination of a 5-year-old. God bless you.
- jmatchett383

Pens just traded for a D man from Edmonton...John Marino...for conditional 6th round pick
- MattStrat

Is he related to Dan Marino? Geez. Never heard of.

Ok new game: Best position accurate NHL starting lineup of players born during the same year as you. I’ve got:

Johnny Hockey-Scheifele-Kucherov

Ghost-Dougie Hamilton

Gibson

That’s actually pretty (frank)ing stacked.
- Victoro311

Skinner, Kuznetov, stone
Faulk, klingberg
Mrazek

Patrik Nemeth is best? LD, Id stick with making one o fthose two playing bad side.

Is he related to Dan Marino? Geez. Never heard of.
- Barnaby36

Can't win the big one

uh oh...

Pettersson's agent says no deal until Pens clear cap space

uh oh...

Pettersson's agent says no deal until Pens clear cap space
- YouMeAndDupuis9

We knew that. Otherwise Pettersson would only make a mil which we all know isn’t realistic.

uh oh...

Pettersson's agent says no deal until Pens clear cap space
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Where ya seeing that?

Where ya seeing that?
- j.boyd919

Molinari is reporting it.

You sir, have the imagination of a 5-year-old. God bless you.
- jmatchett383

🤣🤣

No, it's meant to be a realistic view of our current defense. He's better than half our current defenseman and cheap enough to alleviate our current cap issues. LIkely would be our 4th best d-man, hence, improving the team. Pretty low risk contract too... 2 years remaining @ $2.3M

Again, the overall point is that I'd rather do something like this than trade Rust for futures that wont make an impact in the next 2-3 years. Free agency is obviously not the solution.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Trade Rust for a LHD that can push JJ out of the line up.

I mean fair enough. I'm just saying the argument boyd was making is he wants a better player than Johns. Smith would be serviceable and more of a sure thing, but point is its going to be hard to add a defenseman better than that.

You really think he'd sign for $1M though? I mean he's super inconsistent and theres a reason he's being bought out...but still...every team could use cheap D-men.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Smith is a perfectly fine defenseman. Maybe best suited to bottom pair. He and Shattenkirk get blamed for the Ranger's defensive struggles because they were big money UFAs that were over-slotted there, yet they have the best relative numbers on the team.

Where ya seeing that?
- j.boyd919

https://www.dkpittsburghs...on-no-deal-cap-space-dwm/

Petts agent: "There's no rush," he said. "We have good conversations with management. We're not in a fight or anything. The communication is good. We know where they are. We know what they want to do."