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Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Jul 26 @ 5:09 PM ET
Richard Cloutier: Semin: $7mil. Bad Contract: Priceless
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Jul 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
Its a one year deal. Carolina didnt risk the future on Semin. Semin puts up points and stays healthy. He def has more value than Hemsky. If Hemmer were to put up a few 70game seasons things would def be diff.

Not to mention Carolina isnt a market most players just want to sign in. Its a market where you have to overpay to sign people
JIrwin
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, BC
Joined: 09.28.2007

Jul 26 @ 5:14 PM ET
And what did Carolina give up to get him? Oh yeah, nothing.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 26 @ 5:15 PM ET
Id rather have Hemsky too. (frank) Semin.
bazmagoo
Joined: 09.18.2011

Jul 26 @ 5:18 PM ET
Personally I think Semin gets a bit of a bad rap, and I'm not certain why. He seemed to buy into Hunter's system last year (maybe because he didn't have much of a choice, I wouldn't want to get into Dale's bad books). Gets 0.66 points per game in the playoffs throughtout his career yet everyone says "he disappears".

Have to disagree with you on this one Richard, even though the money is big I think the term Carolina got him for is low risk and high potential reward.
Gannicus
Joined: 07.15.2012

Jul 26 @ 5:19 PM ET
last time I checked, a player with a bad attitude can still produce; an injury prone player like Hemsky, not so much. and semin contract is just 1 year, that's why the term is high.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jul 26 @ 5:20 PM ET
What's the point of having a potential 70 point guy if he spends all his time in the press box. Paying $5mil. for potential seems extreme. Semin isn't ideal, but on a 1 year contract, it's not a big risk to see if he plays better while out from under Ovi's shadow.

You can keep Hemmer.
dghill
Edmonton Oilers
Location: All Hail the Lottery, AB
Joined: 07.11.2011

Jul 26 @ 5:24 PM ET
last time I checked, a player with a bad attitude can still produce; an injury prone player like Hemsky, not so much. and semin contract is just 1 year, that's why the term is high.
- Gannicus


The word you are looking for is salary. The "salary" is high.
Rimland
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 26 @ 5:25 PM ET
$3 million in risk

$4 million to reach cap floor

to have Semin still "think" he is a $7 million dollar man...

PRICELESS !
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jul 26 @ 5:26 PM ET
It still depends on what your looking for on your roster a goal scorer or a playmaker and to me hemmer is more of a playmaker and semin is a goal scorer
bubbapuck
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Fontucky, CA
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 26 @ 5:28 PM ET
Not sure how a 1 year contract i considered bad. Seems like another homer blog trying to justify mistakes made by one of the worst GM's in hockey.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Jul 26 @ 5:29 PM ET
Semin will go to Carolina and get 40 goals, Hemsky will be hurt by game 20.

contract is fine, maybe about a million to much, but fine.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jul 26 @ 5:30 PM ET
Just look at the numbers. A player who peaks at 20 goals a season does not have comparable value to a player who peaks at 40. A team taking a one year risk on Semin when it only costs them a few million dollars (yes, a few million, they had to spend most of his salary somewhere to get to cap floor anyways) does not equal a team being willing to give up an asset to get Hemsky.
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Jul 26 @ 5:30 PM ET
Not sure how a 1 year contract i considered bad. Seems like another homer blog trying to justify mistakes made by one of the worst GM's in hockey.
- bubbapuck


You obviously are new to my blogs. I slam the decisions made by Oilers management on almost a daily basis.
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Jul 26 @ 5:34 PM ET
Just look at the numbers. A player who peaks at 20 goals a season does not have comparable value to a player who peaks at 40. A team taking a one year risk on Semin when it only costs them a few million dollars (yes, a few million, they had to spend most of his salary somewhere to get to cap floor anyways) does not equal a team being willing to give up an asset to get Hemsky.
- Antilles


Semin: Gets points; has a terrible attitude and doesn't care. Will help the Hurricanes roughly the same amount as he'll hurt them.

Hemsky: Injured frequently, but has a good attitude and does care. Would help a team more than hurt it if he could stay healthy.

Just thought I'd provide a summary of my blog since you obviously didn't read it.
FlyerAdam30
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sewell, NJ
Joined: 04.15.2012

Jul 26 @ 5:34 PM ET
I think it's a smart signing. They have the cap room, and it's only a one-year deal. They can always trade him at the deadline for more assets if it isn't working out as well. And there's always the hope that this guy tries hard to prove himself to earn a bigger contract next year. I can't even believe at this point how absurd you over value Hemsky. I admit that I don't get to see him play every day like you, but just looking at his stats and injury history this guy has had basically 2 decent years.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 26 @ 5:36 PM ET
Richard Cloutier: Semin: $7mil. Bad Contract: Priceless
- Maxbone

Hear hear!

I was thinking the same thing.

Lets see what the trolls have to say...
PRICEless
Montreal Canadiens
Location: On sait JAMAIS!!! Faut pas jet, QC
Joined: 10.11.2007

Jul 26 @ 5:37 PM ET
STIR 'DAT POT CLOUTIER, JUST STIR IT!

1 year deals always have so much repercussions.
PRICEless
Montreal Canadiens
Location: On sait JAMAIS!!! Faut pas jet, QC
Joined: 10.11.2007

Jul 26 @ 5:38 PM ET
Semin: Gets points; has a terrible attitude and doesn't care. Will help the Hurricanes roughly the same amount as he'll hurt them.

Hemsky: Injured frequently, but has a good attitude and does care. Would help a team more than hurt it if he could stay healthy.

Just thought I'd provide a summary of my blog since you obviously didn't read it.

- Maxbone


I say Semin cares and Hemsky doesnt. Where are your gods now?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 26 @ 5:38 PM ET
Semin will go to Carolina and get 40 goals, Hemsky will be hurt by game 20.

contract is fine, maybe about a million to much, but fine.

- IanEsplen


TROLL! Where are the Refs! Your buddy Micah needs to give you a 1 year ban!

jkaflagg
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 06.02.2006

Jul 26 @ 5:39 PM ET
Seems like the perfect deal - one year deal for a highly talented player who should be motivated to silence his detracters and earn a multi-year deal.....and if he doesn't, it's not like he's blocking anyone in Carolina who could do better.....

Regarding Hemsky: would never say he has no trade value, but his recent body of work plus his new contract really work against the idea that a team would trade much to get him, particularly a #1 draft pick.....However, if he gets hot near the trade deadline and a team gets real desperate, they might get lucky....
Crazycaboose
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 26 @ 5:39 PM ET
No one is going to want to trade for him there is a guy still on the market I would still want over Hemsky. Kristian Huselius got a lot of talent but guy is always hurt and only one could easily pick him up for around 2 mill. Now I wouldn't want either one but I would take huselius as a low risk high reward.

I believe I have heard you say a first round pick is the return you wanted so I think I would pass on Hemsky. If that's wrong feel free to tell me what return you would expect.
scoot174
Calgary Flames
Location: Oil Tycoon is actually a Flame, AB
Joined: 01.29.2007

Jul 26 @ 5:39 PM ET
Comparing Hemsky and Semin's talent levels is a bit of a stretch. Semin lazy, Hemsky always hurt... I'll take lazy.

Besides, at least Semin will drop the mitts and duke it out once in a while, well... slap it out?

http://www.youtube.com/wa...er_embedded&v=VDRCpN4OMpM
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 26 @ 5:41 PM ET
Semin: Gets points; has a terrible attitude and doesn't care. Will help the Hurricanes roughly the same amount as he'll hurt them.

Hemsky: Injured frequently, but has a good attitude and does care. Would help a team more than hurt it if he could stay healthy.

Just thought I'd provide a summary of my blog since you obviously didn't read it.

- Maxbone

Crazycaboose
Florida Panthers
Location: FL
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jul 26 @ 5:41 PM ET

TROLL! Where are the Refs! Your buddy Micah needs to give you a 1 year ban!

- Iggysbff


A little touché aren't we
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