mlindsay
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none of this shows me he is "defensively sound".
Lets move on..this is a waste of time - senstroll
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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with a goalie tandem comprised mainly of Darling/Ward - mlindsay
Mrazek will improve them in goal, but seriously doubt it will put them into the playoffs.
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Jets are going to have a hard time keeping their players together. Id reach out on Myers/Buff to see what it takes. Not sure there is a fit there though.
Laine will be in Eichel Territory 10M+
Connor 6+
Wheeler 10+
Hellybuck - 5+
Trouba 6+
Morrissey 3M+
Tanev 2.5+
Plus they have Buff 7M, Little at 5M, Perrault at 4M, Ehlers at 6M, Scheifele at 6M. They likely have to get rid of Little somehow. - Archaic
I Agree - that plus Cheveldayoff is a cheapskate - there will be lots of fighting coming up. They haven't been a cap team to date.
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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On top of the fact I can't see them signing Karlsson long term with the two bigger contracts already on defense and Kucherov needing a new deal soon too.
Tampa also has a condition on their first round pick in 2019 with the Rangers so why would Dorion want the 2020 pick? - Aaron_85
Tampa can easily sign Karlsson long term, and if they get him, they will. Stralman, Coburn and Girardi are all UFA next year - in their 30's and make a combined $11.2 m. They will be moved out at the trade deadline or not renewed. The bigger issue is fitting Karlsson in this year, especially if (boatanchor) Bobby Ryan is involved. Tampa will need to find a team that will take picks and prospects to absorb salary.
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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If Ottawa didn't want to trade Hoffman to Florida, what are the odds they'll trade Karlsson to Toronto?
Karlsson to St. Louis, Pietrangelo to Toronto and picks and prospects to Ottawa however, that might work. - Unholy_Goalie
Florida was only offering picks while SJ was offering players.
Ottawa wanted players and not the picks. It wasn't that they didn't want to trade with Florida because of being in the same division.
So the Leafs do have a chance slim as it may be to land Karlsson. |
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mlindsay
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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Mrazek will improve them in goal, but seriously doubt it will put them into the playoffs. - winsix
You think Mrazek is an upgrade? I'm thinking it's more of the same. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Hey, remember when next year the Sens' first round pick goes to the Avalanche?
I remember. - TheMussel
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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mlindsay
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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Florida was only offering picks while SJ was offering players.
Ottawa wanted players and not the picks. It wasn't that they didn't want to trade with Florida because of being in the same division.
So the Leafs do have a chance slim as it may be to land Karlsson. - dmnted
Good that the salary cap is not a thing, eh? |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Tampa can easily sign Karlsson long term, and if they get him, they will. Stralman, Coburn and Girardi are all UFA next year - in their 30's and make a combined $11.2 m. They will be moved out at the trade deadline or not renewed. The bigger issue is fitting Karlsson in this year, especially if (boatanchor) Bobby Ryan is involved. Tampa will need to find a team that will take picks and prospects to absorb salary. - winsix
You're forgetting Kucherov will also need a new deal same time as Karlsson. I doubt he takes less than 8.
Stamkos 8.5
Hedman 7.8
Mcdonagh 6.7
Karlsson - 11 (assuming same deal as Doughty)
Kucherov 8 (assuming he takes that)
42 million in 5 guys. Now thats a serious 5 guys and likely one of the best D-cores in the game, if not the best, but you have 50% of the cap in 5 guys.
I don't see the fit. Good for tampa if they pull it off but I feel it's too short sighted.
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Tampa can easily sign Karlsson long term, and if they get him, they will. Stralman, Coburn and Girardi are all UFA next year - in their 30's and make a combined $11.2 m. They will be moved out at the trade deadline or not renewed. The bigger issue is fitting Karlsson in this year, especially if (boatanchor) Bobby Ryan is involved. Tampa will need to find a team that will take picks and prospects to absorb salary. - winsix
yep. nobody is waiving to to go to loltawa
will be a complicated trade if it's tampa. |
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Florida was only offering picks while SJ was offering players.
Ottawa wanted players and not the picks. It wasn't that they didn't want to trade with Florida because of being in the same division.
So the Leafs do have a chance slim as it may be to land Karlsson. - dmnted[/quote]
You have a better chance of winning the lotto max.
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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Tampa can easily sign Karlsson long term, and if they get him, they will. Stralman, Coburn and Girardi are all UFA next year - in their 30's and make a combined $11.2 m. They will be moved out at the trade deadline or not renewed. The bigger issue is fitting Karlsson in this year, especially if (boatanchor) Bobby Ryan is involved. Tampa will need to find a team that will take picks and prospects to absorb salary. - winsix
Kucherov is a RFA next year.....and others in getting raises
Kucherov - 10M+
Yanni Gourde - 5M+
That alone without signing any of the other UFA/RFA's puts them at 71M. That is with 2 defensemen signed. Even if they fill out those spots with 1M players thats 5M which would bring them to 76M. I just dont see how Karlsson makes sense without gutting some of their team.
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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You're forgetting Kucherov will also need a new deal same time as Karlsson. I doubt he takes less than 8.
Stamkos 8.5
Hedman 7.8
Mcdonagh 6.7
Karlsson - 11 (assuming same deal as Doughty)
Kucherov 8 (assuming he takes that)
42 million in 5 guys. Now thats a serious 5 guys and likely one of the best D-cores in the game, if not the best, but you have 50% of the cap in 5 guys.
I don't see the fit. Good for tampa if they pull it off but I feel it's too short sighted. - Aaron_85
Kucherov was pretty salty after signing his last contract. I expect him to ask for more than 8
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Lawless Soldier of The Devil, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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You're forgetting Kucherov will also need a new deal same time as Karlsson. I doubt he takes less than 8.
Stamkos 8.5
Hedman 7.8
Mcdonagh 6.7
Karlsson - 11 (assuming same deal as Doughty)
Kucherov 8 (assuming he takes that)
42 million in 5 guys. Now thats a serious 5 guys and likely one of the best D-cores in the game, if not the best, but you have 50% of the cap in 5 guys.
I don't see the fit. Good for tampa if they pull it off but I feel it's too short sighted. - Aaron_85
i am here to pay my debts
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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i am here to pay my debts - Tumbleweed
so you are MiB after all |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Good that the salary cap is not a thing, eh? - mlindsay
he makes 6.5m this year. easy enough this year.
would almost certainly mean gardiner (or ideally zaitsev) and nylander would be out next year (or earlier).
i'm not expecting it. seems pretty unlikely. |
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Larry_Fine
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Edmonton , AB Joined: 02.09.2017
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I was just saying every fan base has their lunatic fans that lose their poop when bad things happen to their team. I know people who have tried to find where Kerry Fraser lives or claim to have pissed on Ballard's grave. These people aren't well but they exist. That Islander fan is obviously pissed off and if it was happening to the Leafs, there would be a Leafs fan equivalent just as pissed off, if not more so given how emotionally involved Leafs fans can become.
But if you say that's a strange stance, I guess it's strange. - Unholy_Goalie
What colour is the sky in your world? |
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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You're forgetting Kucherov will also need a new deal same time as Karlsson. I doubt he takes less than 8.
Stamkos 8.5
Hedman 7.8
Mcdonagh 6.7
Karlsson - 11 (assuming same deal as Doughty)
Kucherov 8 (assuming he takes that)
42 million in 5 guys. Now thats a serious 5 guys and likely one of the best D-cores in the game, if not the best, but you have 50% of the cap in 5 guys.
I don't see the fit. Good for tampa if they pull it off but I feel it's too short sighted. - Aaron_85
Kucherov is only an RFA and can be bridged for at least one more year. Callahan and Tyler Johnson plus any increase in cap space could be used to fit Kucherov after that. If not, think of how much Tampa would get in asset trading Kucherov.
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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On top of the fact I can't see them signing Karlsson long term with the two bigger contracts already on defense and Kucherov needing a new deal soon too.
Tampa also has a condition on their first round pick in 2019 with the Rangers so why would Dorion want the 2020 pick? - Aaron_85
I think the Rangers only get the 2019 draft pick if the Lightning won the Cup. Not sure if that includes the 2018/19 season as well.. Otherwise, it's free to trade.
Regardless, the Lightning can only afford Karlsson if they trade away a big piece.
Unless it's Karlsson for Stralman, Callahan and Palat
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Love listening to TSN Montreal radio. It is awesome. All about the Habs and they are not happy with anything...
Talking Shea Weber right now. He is under contract for another 8 YEARS...!
LOLOLOL
Ola Ola Ola Ola |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Kucherov is only an RFA and can be bridged for at least one more year. Callahan and Tyler Johnson plus any increase in cap space could be used to fit Kucherov after that. If not, think of how much Tampa would get in asset trading Kucherov. - winsix
He didn't seem too happy the last time Tampa did that. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Karlsson for Killorn, Foote, Cirelli, 1st 2020, 1st 2021
Ottawa gets a first and a topish prospect (would be their new best defense prospect)
A middle-6 winger locked up for a long time that can't escape the wreckage
A solid young forward with upside.
Next season pay somebody to take Callahan off your hands. Let Girardi, Coburn and Stralman walk.
Gives them 17mil. 4.5 going to Karlsson (6.5 to 11) and 5.3 going to Kucherov (4.66 to 10), potentially 3 to Gourde (1 to 4) if he keeps that up he'll deserve more, 5.2 to Point (800k to 6)
-1mil to fill 2 defense slots (Sergachev still on ELC)
Doesn't seem likely for Tampa |
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