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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 4 @ 7:59 PM ET
Very true and yet he is getting all the credit.

Also,Tavares could have secretly advised NYI he was not re-signing and allowed NYI to trade him and at least get something for him. They paid him pretty well and provided him his start as he says himself.

- justsaying

You should look at how he had the best team friendly deal in NHL history....
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jul 4 @ 8:00 PM ET
You should look at how he had the best team friendly deal in NHL history....
- AdamFrench


Duncan Keith though.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 4 @ 8:00 PM ET
You should look at how he had the best team friendly deal in NHL history....
- AdamFrench

Hilarious how people make up crap they want to believe because they are salty
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:01 PM ET
Duncan Keith though.
- Unholy_Goalie

A contract that illegally breaks the system doesn't count.

Who the (frank) signs for 5.5 after 47 points in 48 games?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 4 @ 8:02 PM ET
Duncan Keith though.
- Unholy_Goalie

13 years 6 million

5 years 5.5 million

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:02 PM ET
Hilarious how people make up crap they want to believe because they are salty
- Santo_44

jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:02 PM ET
We're so good we don't need the other winger anymore
- Garnie

That’s why we’re signing so many D. Only need 8 forwards. Gonna play a 2-3 to limit shots on net so Freddie is fresh come playoff time
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jul 4 @ 8:03 PM ET
A contract that illegally breaks the system doesn't count.
- AdamFrench


Crosby is pretty good at 8.7 right now too. Also broke the system.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:03 PM ET
13 years 6 million

5 years 5.5 million

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

- Santo_44

He's not wrong, that's just a (frank)ing female dog of a time.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:06 PM ET
Crosby is pretty good at 8.7 right now too. Also broke the system.
- Unholy_Goalie

I wish they had made everybody suffer the consequences and not just New Jersey.,,safe poop on by the league though. Love that as these guys get older, the "cap recapture" is becoming less relevant. Franzen (for real) has been LTIRed, Hossa (dubious) has been LTIRed, Kovalchuk retired and is back, Zetterberg is going to retire soon for zero money left over, Keith has nothing left on his deal but Cap, Luongo will probably be allowed to walk away with no cap recapture. It's bullpoop.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jul 4 @ 8:08 PM ET
I wish they had made everybody suffer the consequences and not just New Jersey.,,safe poop on by the league though. Love that as these guys get older, the "cap recapture" is becoming less relevant. Franzen (for real) has been LTIRed, Hossa (dubious) has been LTIRed, Kovalchuk retired and is back, Zetterberg is going to retire soon for zero money left over, Keith has nothing left on his deal but Cap, Luongo will probably be allowed to walk away with no cap recapture. It's bullpoop.
- AdamFrench


I've said it for a long time, just make all the contracts percentage contracts. Tavares should get 13% of the cap, not 11 million a year. If the cap goes up, he gets more. If the cap goes down, his salary goes down.

The thing with all those deals is that they weren't technically against the rules yet.
droopy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: southwold, ON
Joined: 09.02.2010

Jul 4 @ 8:17 PM ET
I've said it for a long time, just make all the contracts percentage contracts. Tavares should get 13% of the cap, not 11 million a year. If the cap goes up, he gets more. If the cap goes down, his salary goes down.

The thing with all those deals is that they weren't technically against the rules yet.

- Unholy_Goalie


so ltir get a raise for sitting at home ?
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jul 4 @ 8:19 PM ET
so ltir get a raise for sitting at home ?
- droopy


Interesting idea. I'd say lock it in at the time the player got hurt.

Then again, if the guy is hurt really bad his ability to earn future money is compromised so maybe it should increase too.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:41 PM ET
I've said it for a long time, just make all the contracts percentage contracts. Tavares should get 13% of the cap, not 11 million a year. If the cap goes up, he gets more. If the cap goes down, his salary goes down.

The thing with all those deals is that they weren't technically against the rules yet.

- Unholy_Goalie

Thats an absolutely horrid idea.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jul 4 @ 8:44 PM ET
Thats an absolutely horrid idea.
- Archaic


Far from it.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jul 4 @ 8:54 PM ET


where do these people keep coming from?

- Arctic_AARDVARK



It wouldn't be any different if Matthews left for Arizona for nothing. Might actually be worse.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 4 @ 8:58 PM ET
It wouldn't be any different if Matthews left for Arizona for nothing. Might actually be worse.
- Unholy_Goalie

I'm pretty sure no one would have said what he just said. So yeah you're wrong ....Again
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jul 4 @ 9:00 PM ET
I'm pretty sure no one would have said what he just said. So yeah you're wrong ....Again
- Archaic


Not a single crazy Leafs fan would lose his poop on a message board if Matthews went to Arizona for nothing?

Yeah...right...



And imagine if the Leafs sucked on top of it too. Absolutely there would be some.

Every fan base of every team has people like that if they were in the same situation.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jul 4 @ 9:03 PM ET
Not a single crazy Leafs fan would lose his poop on a message board if Matthews went to Arizona for nothing?

Yeah...right...



And imagine if the Leafs sucked on top of it too. Absolutely there would be some.

Every fan base of every team has people like that if they were in the same situation.

- Unholy_Goalie


I'm sorry you're wrong. Doubt anyone would go where he just went. The fact that you are even arguing about this is frankly...well normal for you.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jul 4 @ 9:05 PM ET
I'm sorry you're wrong. Doubt anyone would go where he just went. The fact that you are even arguing about this is frankly...well normal for you.
- Archaic


So Kerry Fraser's parents didn't have a whistle next to their phone in the kitchen for when angry Leafs fans would call their house?

Absolutely every fan base has lunatics like that. Don't lie to yourself.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 4 @ 9:08 PM ET
Dubas on TSN 1050 Overdrive today key takeaways:

1. Nylander (and obviously Marner and Matthews) are not going anywhere; that was part of the pitch to Tavares, so please, Internet, no more Nylander for Tanev, Nylander for Faulk, etc.

2. Dubas is "bullish" on our D. He could be using the media to send a message to another GM or two, but I believe it.

As for the D, I'm in agreement. I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be and having 4 quality lines and the best center group in the NHL (yeah, I said it Oilers' fans) will make up for any shortfalls.

Polak out, Borgman/Holl/Rosen in. Already that's an improvement. Healthy Zaitsev, another plus. A year older Dermott, that too.

Give them a chance, stop trying to unload Nylander for a top pairing RHD that doesn't exist.
BooBoo997
Detroit Red Wings
Location: NB
Joined: 01.03.2006

Jul 4 @ 9:08 PM ET
None of those players is even close to a 27yr old Tavares. Sorry.
- As_I_See_It


Well, you are right... Stuart, Rafalski and Murphy are champions.

Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jul 4 @ 9:09 PM ET
Interesting we are likely signing and getting Carolina's Asst. GM for some position.... wonder if he doesn't come in and help take over the Marlies or something along those lines there.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jul 4 @ 9:10 PM ET
Interesting we are likely signing and getting Carolina's Asst. GM for some position.... wonder if he doesn't come in and help take over the Marlies or something along those lines there.
- Roadrunner75


Hopefully Skinner and Pesce come with him.
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jul 4 @ 9:11 PM ET
Dubas on TSN 1050 Overdrive today key takeaways:

1. Nylander (and obviously Marner and Matthews) are not going anywhere; that was part of the pitch to Tavares, so please, Internet, no more Nylander for Tanev, Nylander for Faulk, etc.

2. Dubas is "bullish" on our D. He could be using the media to send a message to another GM or two, but I believe it.

As for the D, I'm in agreement. I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be and having 4 quality lines and the best center group in the NHL (yeah, I said it Oilers' fans) will make up for any shortfalls.

Polak out, Borgman/Holl/Rosen in. Already that's an improvement. Healthy Zaitsev, another plus. A year older Dermott, that too.

Give them a chance, stop trying to unload Nylander for a top pairing RHD that doesn't exist.

- gravyface



BOOM. Well said.
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