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joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 11 @ 6:42 PM ET
Every way?

Oh lawd Terry Crisp, put it in reverse.

- hereticpride


You were probably too young to see this game but it was the most memorable game ever for me. Having the Russians too scared to come out for the third period was like so sweet. The Flyers just punished the Russians so hard they did not want anything to do with the puck.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 6:42 PM ET
The offer is still there MJL, try me. Problem is most just do not have the balls to talk face to face and like to hide. PM me man and let's chat.
- joegreif17


No actually all of us have the same reason why we don't want to talk to you on the phone!
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 11 @ 6:46 PM ET
No actually all of us have the same reason why we don't want to talk to you on the phone!

- MJL


Your wrong, some have already talked to me. None of them like you that is for sure. I know that you are not a real man because a real man does not hide. You would be surprised how many are not too happy with your little lynch squad.
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Jul 11 @ 6:47 PM ET
Guys, I’m giving my opinion of what I would do with our current thin crop of centers. I would have G go back center.

A) Filppula isn’t here to replace Couturier or Patrick if either player gets hurt.

B) Whether it not Frost is ready, we currently cannot put all our hopes into believing he’ll make the same jump as Konecny did. Konecny is a winger.

C) Is G playing wing the best thing for Giroux or the Team? He put up 102 points. That’s amazing. I doubt he’ll do it again but we can hope or maybe he will but will the team be balanced enough for him to play wing? We brought JvR in. JvR as numbrr one LW isn’t a terrible thing.

D) Briere, Carter, Richards were all first line centers at one time when they played here. The three lines worked. All dangerous. When Giroux came in, one was moved to winger. We aren’t this deep.

I apologize now if my thoughts and opinion, threaten your thoughts and opinions.

- SuperSchennBros


You make a good point that having Giroux on the team is good insurance if a #1/2C goes down. But having G and Coots on the same line has multiple advantages that many people seem not to realize. As was pointed out by someone else, G gets a lot less wear and tear not having to defend as a center, and this is possibly a lot to do with why he was able to be more productive. Also, playing with Coots makes G less of a defensive liability. Giroux not only had a career points year, but also by far his best +/- year.

Another HUGE advantage is having two very good face off men on the same line, with one shooting left and the other right. The Flyers win more draws, and can be productive off of the face off wins because they can use the center best suited to that situation/location. That alone makes the line (and PP1) more effective off of set pieces. G to 2C should be a last resort.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 6:48 PM ET
Your wrong, some have already talked to me. .
- joegreif17


Absolutely 100% believable!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 6:50 PM ET
You make a good point that having Giroux on the team is good insurance if a #1/2C goes down. But having G and Coots on the same line has multiple advantages that many people seem not to realize. As was pointed out by someone else, G gets a lot less wear and tear not having to defend as a center, and this is possibly a lot to do with why he was able to be more productive. Also, playing with Coots makes G less of a defensive liability. Giroux not only had a career points year, but also by far his best +/- year.

Another HUGE advantage is having two very good face off men on the same line, with one shooting left and the other right. The Flyers win more draws, and can be productive off of the face off wins because they can use the center best suited to that situation/location. That alone makes the line (and PP1) more effective off of set pieces. G to 2C should be a last resort.

- hockeyal


Posters on this board are overwhelmingly in favor of keeping Giroux and Couturier on the same line so what is your basis for stating that many people don't seem to realize the advantages?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 11 @ 6:50 PM ET
If you know and understand why Hakstol moved Konecny, yes it is completely different.
- MJL

(frank) off!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 11 @ 6:52 PM ET
100% of the people I've impregnated have called me on the phone before...willing to risk it?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 11 @ 6:56 PM ET
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- joegreif17


What's your last name and billing address?
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Jul 11 @ 6:56 PM ET
Posters on this board are overwhelmingly in favor of keeping Giroux and Couturier on the same line so what is your basis for stating that many people don't seem to realize the advantages?
- MJL


I didn't say that. I said in all of the discussion, the REASONS why it makes sense have not been articulated (mostly in favor of "we are right" and penis fencing).

I was pointing out, as you did that it makes sense to remember he can play center if needed, but also providing evidentiary support for the popular opinion. Try reading the actual words.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 11 @ 6:57 PM ET
The offer is still there MJL, try me. Problem is most just do not have the balls to talk face to face and like to hide. PM me man and let's chat.
- joegreif17


Since when is talking on the phone "face to face?"
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Jul 11 @ 6:58 PM ET
You were probably too young to see this game but it was the most memorable game ever for me. Having the Russians too scared to come out for the third period was like so sweet. The Flyers just punished the Russians so hard they did not want anything to do with the puck.
- joegreif17

twpguy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2010

Jul 11 @ 6:59 PM ET
Don't see Vecchione ever being a regular on the Flyers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 7:00 PM ET
I didn't say that. I said in all of the discussion, the REASONS why it makes sense have not been articulated (mostly in favor of "we are right" and penis fencing).

I was pointing out, as you did that it makes sense to remember he can play center if needed, but also providing evidentiary support for the popular opinion. Try reading the actual words.

- hockeyal


12 minutes ago. The actual words.

"But having G and Coots on the same line has multiple advantages that many people seem not to realize
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 11 @ 7:02 PM ET
What's your last name and billing address?
- jmatchett383


His last name is grief
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jul 11 @ 7:04 PM ET
100% of the people I've impregnated have called me on the phone before...willing to risk it?
- YuenglingJagr

those are team stats smh

they don't mean anything
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 11 @ 7:10 PM ET
100% of the people I've impregnated have called me on the phone before...willing to risk it?
- YuenglingJagr


Who uses a phone to talk? Next thing you'll be telling me you watch blu-ray movies and use Comcast for cable TV.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 11 @ 7:18 PM ET
12 minutes ago. The actual words.

"But having G and Coots on the same line has multiple advantages that many people seem not to realize

- MJL


Don't argue with MJL, whether your right or wrong you ain't gonna that twisted know it all.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 11 @ 7:18 PM ET
Don't argue with MJL, whether your right or wrong you ain't gonna win the debate with that twisted know it all.
- joegreif17

joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 11 @ 7:20 PM ET
His last name is grief
- funmaster18


Awe, your no fun master
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 11 @ 7:23 PM ET
Since when is talking on the phone "face to face?"
- jmatchett383


Thank you for pointing that out Donald, when you see your brother (MJL) say hi for me. Whenever I see Trump or hear his name I think of you, weird.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Jul 11 @ 7:27 PM ET
Don't see Vecchione ever being a regular on the Flyers.
- twpguy


Make or break time for sure, just like I can never see Lindblob making it either, Vecchione actually has more skill and could surprise. He reminds of a young Matt Read and he did okay for a few years. I even like Ratcliffe better than Frost for potential to actually make an impact.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 11 @ 7:30 PM ET
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 7:30 PM ET
Make or break time for sure, just like I can never see Lindblob making it either, Vecchione actually has more skill and could surprise. He reminds of a young Matt Read and he did okay for a few years. I even like Ratcliffe better than Frost for potential to actually make an impact.
- joegreif17


I don't think there is any doubt that Lindblom is going to be a solid NHL player.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 11 @ 7:33 PM ET
You were probably too young to see this game but it was the most memorable game ever for me. Having the Russians too scared to come out for the third period was like so sweet. The Flyers just punished the Russians so hard they did not want anything to do with the puck.
- joegreif17

I've seen the game multiple time but yes it was before my time.

I like to imagine it would be like the Flyers taking on a lineup of all the ousted Trump appointees now.
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