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Garth_Mctavish
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 12.10.2014
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Well written. It's important to criticize bad moves so the franchise doesn't repeat those mistakes. Goes for any team obviously |
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Leniwm1
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 02.24.2015
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You people take this too seriously, its a sport. Stop being so dramatic. Stop whining. Move on with your life. |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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I guarantee Brett will be back when the Oilers make the playoffs, much like a lot of Sabres fans |
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geta02it
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 11.10.2007
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You people take this too seriously, its a sport. Stop being so dramatic. Stop whining. Move on with your life. - Leniwm1
Hockey is woven into the fabric of this country, sort of like guns in the US... |
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Leniwm1
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 02.24.2015
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Hockey is woven into the fabric of this country, sort of like guns in the US... - geta02it
Ya I get that. But hockey is a sport. Guns were for protection and hunting.
I played and started watching when I was 9, im 35 now. I never wrote a letter to Lou asking him why the Devils couldn't win.
Again, that guy that wrote that letter is too dramatic. That's my point. I didn't want to generalize, hockey is my life too. |
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geta02it
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 11.10.2007
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Ya I get that. But hockey is a sport. Guns were for protection and hunting.
I played and started watching when I was 9, im 35 now. I never wrote a letter to Lou asking him why the Devils couldn't win.
Again, that guy that wrote that letter is too dramatic. That's my point. I didn't want to generalize, hockey is my life too. - Leniwm1
Protection from what?
No the guy that wrote the letter is a fan.
Will he be back, of course but he needed to make public what allot of fans feel when "their team" is as inept as the Oilers are.
Ask Cub fans... guarantee more than one wrote a letter or two... |
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That letter is a wow. That reminds me of driving around Pittsburgh with billboards highlighting rico fata, guiliume lefavbre, Richard tarnstrom, Milan Kraft, and Jean Sebastian aubin. Sometimes a little honesty a la the rangers goes a long way |
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Leniwm1
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 02.24.2015
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Protection from what?
No the guy that wrote the letter is a fan.
Will he be back, of course but he needed to make public what allot of fans feel when "their team" is as inept as the Oilers are.
Ask Cub fans... guarantee more than one wrote a letter or two... - geta02it
Don't go there. I'm gonna write a whole essay.
But anyway, ya I guess. I know the passion in Canada, not hating on it at all. I saw a game in Vancouver, mid season, mid week against Avs. Playoff atmosphere. I was very jealous. Just hope that guy won't kill himself when McJesus wont save the team on his own. |
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The success of the year before rejuvinated my love for the Oilers and gives me hope for this year and moving forward.
However, last year was a disappointment that cause me to miss games I normaly would not have, and my interest last year was at an all time low.
This year will be decider IMO of the "another Chiarelli hate blog" crew. I hope the Oilers of 2016/17 were the real deal and I can finally tell all those $%^&* to $%^&&* off.
IMO the team on paper is a good one and the success of the previous year would not have been possible without the current managment group. |
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geta02it
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 11.10.2007
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Don't go there. I'm gonna write a whole essay.
But anyway, ya I guess. I know the passion in Canada, not hating on it at all. I saw a game in Vancouver, mid season, mid week against Avs. Playoff atmosphere. I was very jealous. Just hope that guy won't kill himself when McJesus wont save the team on his own. - Leniwm1
Its a debate I'd be happy to take on and btw I am a gun owner up here...
Honestly, its one thing I think even diehard NFL/MLB fans can't relate to. Its cultural and honestly its a part of our DNA.
He's just pissed off and wanted to vent. At least he was up front and direct. It could have been some anonymous, obscure social media post. He got a response, as sad as it was so I'm sure its soothed his pain... |
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Hockey is woven into the fabric of this country, sort of like guns in the US... - geta02it
Great post |
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Sean Maloughney: A Blog About That Blog
A few comments regarding the Oilers organization and the state of the fan base's psyche. - freelancer
Well written blog you can change the team to the islanders and you would probably have a following of islander fans on here. Same team same BS. |
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vancity787
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: My Parents Basement, BC Joined: 07.14.2008
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Ya I get that. But hockey is a sport. Guns were for protection and hunting.
I played and started watching when I was 9, im 35 now. I never wrote a letter to Lou asking him why the Devils couldn't win.
Again, that guy that wrote that letter is too dramatic. That's my point. I didn't want to generalize, hockey is my life too. - Leniwm1
My favourite argument.
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Beergu
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: AB Joined: 08.15.2008
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Sean Maloughney: A Blog About That Blog
A few comments regarding the Oilers organization and the state of the fan base's psyche. - freelancer
Good lord, I am losing any shred of faith left in management if they truly believe that those additions are depth that I should be excited to see in our organization, while we still run Rattie and Drake in our top 6. I really hope poolparty gets a short early and runs with it, or Yamamoto is able to stick. And just get Nurse signed long term already. |
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YzermanTheMan
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Reveen is JB’s salad tosser Joined: 08.21.2013
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First, suck it Oilers ref. |
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shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: NS Joined: 07.05.2015
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Protection from what?
No the guy that wrote the letter is a fan.
Will he be back, of course but he needed to make public what allot of fans feel when "their team" is as inept as the Oilers are.
Ask Cub fans... guarantee more than one wrote a letter or two... - geta02it
From other crazy Muricans with guns. |
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Wingdings
Season Ticket Holder Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: London, ON Joined: 07.28.2018
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Oiler fans have had to deal with Barzal for Reinhart, Larssen (and Lucic) for Hall, and Strome for Eberle, plus rumours Chia is looking to trade Nuge, a trade Chia will surely get caved in again on. We need to cut Oil fans some serious slack. Anything short of climbing the clocktower and culling the crowd - is all good Oil fans. |
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HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB Joined: 06.10.2015
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Haters are gonna hate, (frank)boi Fanboys are going salivate...but here’s the facts.
Kevin Lowe and Co paid a high price for a run to the finals that we felt for years and I’m glad he did it, even with the mass exodus of Pronger etc, and it was well worth the ride. Lowe was an excellent General Manager despite having a poor scouting staff, and a strict budget enforced by ownership. Helped that he had the 2nd greatest Oilers coach of all time behind Slats. Passing grade.
Steve Tambolini was a piss poor choice for GM...unless he was mandated , by being an outsider, to run the team into the ground to get a couple 1st overall picks, and then (frank) off and take all the blame. That part of the plan worked to perfection, however the part of a rebuild he (frank)ed up on was the fire sale. He got Peanuts for Souray, Hemsky, Penner( the lone exception) Roloson and averyone else with value because he either waited too long or didn’t move them at all, which meant that the few young guns drafted in the 1st round he had were the only up and comers he had.
Complete failure.
Craig MAC Tavish was much better. He identified the need for stop gap players on defence , but he picked the wrong ones in a few cases, took some low risk gambles on Russian players that didn’t pan out, moved a broken down Hemsky and an overpaid Horcoff. He was very hesitant to move our young talent and missed the boat on Acquiring Center depth, and was a poor evaluator of veteran and goaltender talent. He made all the right moves, but they were the wrong players or too late (Roy)....he still had an awful roster ,but it was made worse by hiring Eakins....tho not even Scotty Bowman could make them a winner. Overall...passing grade, but barely.
Peter Chiarelli inherited the Oilers with Connor McDavid, Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Ryan Nugent Hopkins , Justin Schultz, Oscar Klefbom, Nail Yakupov, an NHL ready Leon Draisaitl and a young Darnell Nurse, and an extra 1st round draft pick.In the 3 years since he got us a paltry 3 decent prospects in Jesse P, Yamamoto, and Bouchard, signed Lucic Russel and Sekeras , traded for Strome, Larsson, some nothing picks and prospects only EdmHockeyFan sees as NHL players, and all it cost was Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Justin Schultz, Nail Yakupov and a 1st round pick in a deep draft, and we missed the playoffs 2/3 years.
How can this be anything but a complete failure?
I honestly think they should give back the reigns to Lowe and MacTavish, but that’s for another day.
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HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB Joined: 06.10.2015
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The success of the year before rejuvinated my love for the Oilers and gives me hope for this year and moving forward.
However, last year was a disappointment that cause me to miss games I normaly would not have, and my interest last year was at an all time low.
This year will be decider IMO of the "another Chiarelli hate blog" crew. I hope the Oilers of 2016/17 were the real deal and I can finally tell all those $%^&* to $%^&&* off.
IMO the team on paper is a good one and the success of the previous year would not have been possible without the current managment group. - Aerchon
And if the season is a disaster will you finally (frank) off? |
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HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB Joined: 06.10.2015
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Oiler fans have had to deal with Barzal for Reinhart, Larssen (and Lucic) for Hall, and Strome for Eberle, plus rumours Chia is looking to trade Nuge, a trade Chia will surely get caved in again on. We need to cut Oil fans some serious slack. Anything short of climbing the clocktower and culling the crowd - is all good Oil fans. - Wingdings
(frank)in A...we suffered dearly for many years and really have gotten nowhere...we should be talked about as Stanley Cup favorites like the Leafs by now, not a (frank)ing Joke.
Actually, I’m gonna say it right now. If the Oilers miss the playoffs and the Leafs make the ECF.....I will officially jump ship and become a Leafs fan, and you can thank Peter Chiarelli for wiping his ass with 30 years of my loyalty, the female genitalia. |
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EdmHockeyMan
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Location: Lumbridge, AB Joined: 06.24.2013
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Craig MAC Tavish was much better. He identified the need for stop gap players on defence , but he picked the wrong ones in a few cases, took some low risk gambles on Russian players that didn’t pan out, moved a broken down Hemsky and an overpaid Horcoff. He was very hesitant to move our young talent and missed the boat on Acquiring Center depth, and was a poor evaluator of veteran and goaltender talent. He made all the right moves, but they were the wrong players or too late (Roy)....he still had an awful roster ,but it was made worse by hiring Eakins....tho not even Scotty Bowman could make them a winner. Overall...passing grade, but barely.
- HonkyTonkMan
I agree with you on MacT. I think that at the end of the day, his Achilles heel was his lack of experience in upper management (only one year of hockey operation duties prior).
Another thorn that comes up is the hiring of Eakins, as you mentioned, thus firing Kreuger, who I thought would have implemented a good system with the options he had in terms of players. The whole process of hiring Eakins was rash and subject to an incomplete thought. Furthermore, I think Yak's career would have a completely different outcome with Krueger in charge of coaching duties.
Other than that, he made some interesting/noteworthy moves such as the Perron trade and can be seen as a crafty GM (draft picks acquired in 2013 & 2015). Definitely would like to see him be the GM for Edmonton now that he has some upper management experience under his belt (glad that Edmonton kept him in an upper management position). |
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shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: NS Joined: 07.05.2015
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(frank)in A...we suffered dearly for many years and really have gotten nowhere...we should be talked about as Stanley Cup favorites like the Leafs by now, not a (frank)ing Joke.
Actually, I’m gonna say it right now. If the Oilers miss the playoffs and the Leafs make the ECF.....I will officially jump ship and become a Leafs fan, and you can thank Peter Chiarelli for wiping his ass with 30 years of my loyalty, the female genitalia. - HonkyTonkMan
I knew that deep down you were a Leafer. |
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benmacw
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: edmonton, AB Joined: 01.09.2013
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You cant compare Edmonton and Toronto. Its a lot easier to attract high end players in a metropolis, and convincing them to go there is a lot easier then asking a guy "hey would you like to uproot that hot wife of yours and your 2 kids and come to Edmonton, we are only 2000 kms away from anything that matters to someone who makes the kind of money you make and there's a good chance you actually wont freeze to death in April but I wont guarantee it". The city is nice but with the players having so much power to decide where they want to play it makes it really difficult for us to either trade for a player with a NMC (most good players have these) or sign them outright in the offseason.
We are usually stuck trying to sign guys like sekera who are still ok but past their best days but still want to be paid like they are 23 again. Which leaves us to drafting, the only way we can get high end talent and guarantee they stick around long enough to realize the city is worth living in. |
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