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Danformo
New York Islanders
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Aug 7 @ 5:01 PM ET
What I was thinking. If Barzal isn't included not sure what package I would want. Is Columbus in a spot to just want prospects back?
- J35Bacher


Eberele or Lee + a something extra
CanucksShouldBeBetter
Vancouver Canucks
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Aug 7 @ 5:13 PM ET
This type of trade would only make sense at the trade deadline if the Isles were in and the Jackets were done. It won't happen. Why trade such a difference maker to a team who could take your playoff spot? Panarin is going to the West. Nashville is my guess. And he will not be signing an extension wherever he goes. He seems determined to test free agency.
Trevrrrgavo
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Aug 7 @ 5:14 PM ET
Doesn’t e4 mean the deal is basically done? Top notch blogs on this site lately.
Metiv420
Montreal Canadiens
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Aug 7 @ 5:43 PM ET
Just another domino waiting to drop!
xShoot4WarAmpsx
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Aug 7 @ 5:54 PM ET
I farted (E3)
bluestar
Location: ON
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Aug 7 @ 6:20 PM ET

- eichiefs9


I really miss Britney looking like this, has anyone seen her lately?, geesh, i know we all change looks-wise as we get older but she went straight to the old and ugly look within 10 years.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
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Aug 7 @ 6:35 PM ET
I really miss Britney looking like this, has anyone seen her lately?, geesh, i know we all change looks-wise as we get older but she went straight to the old and ugly look within 10 years.
- bluestar


Oops she did it again.......

If only she was a genie in a bottle.......



..........she's not!
nellie04
Joined: 02.26.2013

Aug 7 @ 6:36 PM ET
seriously Ek do you have any sources??? So many sources without zero followup and nothing ever happens. Do you know anybody in the hockey world???
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Aug 7 @ 7:06 PM ET
an ek blog in 2018

August 7, 2018, 11:23 AM ET

- homiedclown[23 Comments]
Eklund
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Quick hit this morning....

I am hearing a lot of talk regarding the NY Islanders interest in Anteri Panarin....

Text from a source:

"This is all on the Isles side as of now...what the Jackets would want/expect back is uncertain, but the Islanders are going to be VERY aggressive in this Panarin market...It's the perfect fit for them and Anteri..."

What's the Buzz?

What do you see the Jackets getting from the Isles in this deal?


more on the way...






an Ek blog when he was hungry


https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=29652


August 7, 2010, 3:09 PM ET [ Comments]
Eklund
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There is no city with more passion for its own than Buffalo, NY.

I know people from Buffalo who live near me. You probably do as well. It's interesting. Have you noticed how people once from Buffalo are always from Buffalo? In this day and age where the economy forces people to change locales like the weather, people often uproot and integrate into new cities. Not Buffalonians. You can move them physically, but NEVER mentally.

This even goes for players who play for the Sabres. Players with enough money to live anywhere, find their way back to Buffalo when they retire...They often call the city "The Only Canadian City in America."

The only other American city that comes close to this kind of homing instinct is 3 hours away in Pittsburgh. People from Pittsburgh are also ALWAYS from Pittsburgh. Far more than the other big city in PA, Philadelphia.

This past week the Sabres bought out a local kid, Tim Kennedy. Kennedy is a third/fourth liner who in most cities people would have felt bad about, but...they would have moved on....they may have mentioned it on the local news, maybe.

My sources tell me the Sabres walked away over $25,000. 25k! Not the 250,000 being reported...25K.... That is unheard of.

In Buffalo, Bills camp was open this week, but all the talk on the radio was about the Sabres hanging a local kid out to dry. How the Sabres have simply lost people this off-season. Kennedy will be fine. He grew up playing with Patrick Kane. He will be fine and find another home and flourish.

But the pain is still there. You just don't do this in a town like this. You certainly don't get away with it.

I truly feel for Sabres fans. They are so passionate. They make up huge numbers for me. They come to hockeybuzz in droves. Our writer Garth knows them and has an incredible connection with them.

Yet Sabres fans have seen their mighty post-lockout team dismantled before their eyes...one by one. I used to call them the Beatles. Briere, Drury, Campbell, and Miller. Only Miller remains from a team that were it not for losing every defenseman on their roster in the playoffs would have beaten the Hurricanes in game 7 and, in my opinion, the Oilers in the Final. But it didn't happen. Close, so close. Not entirely new for the sports fans in this town.

The Sabres built a post-lockout team on a wicked transition game. Campbell was Joe Montana. Briere was Jerry Rice. Lydman and Tallinder were also solid new NHL guys who could find the burners and counter attack anyone...they are gone too..

The only way I see the Sabres justifying letting Kennedy go over so little is if the money is there to sign another kid. An top 6 forward from Athol Springs, a 13 minute ride from Buffalo on the 5.

Lee Stempniak.

It is only due to the incredible cap crunch that Stempniak that the 28 goal scorer is available right now. He shouldn't be. I honestly can't remember a time when a 28 goal scorer was available in August 6th. The amazing thing about Stempniak is 14 of those 28 goals came in the final 18 games after he was moved to Phoenix and given top line status. And remember Stempniak scored 27 goals in '06 with the Blues. He is for real.

My fear is the Sabres see him as a star, but not a superstar...but even then...3 per isn't the 5 per they once tried to keep their stars around with...

Will it happen? I have no idea. I have given up trying to understand this franchise. Darcy and Lindy have my respect yet their latest moves have confused me.

I am hearing the Sabres, Coyotes, Kings, and Oilers have interest...but the Sabres are the team to make this happen.

Lee Stempniak is from there. and as I said, Buffalo guys stay Buffalo guys forever. I would love to see how he would perform for his hometown team. The fact the Sabres could get 30 goals right now for $3 million per is a no-brainer.

more to come

Tell me more about that incredible connection you have with Garth.
YzermanTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
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Aug 7 @ 7:06 PM ET
I farted (E3)
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

That might be the closest thing to reality you’ve ever posted.
Savard2Secord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Round Lake, IL
Joined: 12.12.2016

Aug 7 @ 7:23 PM ET
Wahlstrom or Dobson would have to be in the deal..

I think Panarin's intent is on re-signing in Chicago next summer, I think Bowman and Panarin had an agreement he would be re-signed the second free agency opens up on July 1st, 2019..

For sake of argument tho: say Panarin does agree to a sign & trade of perhaps 7-years at 9.5 per, it would have to be something like this:

Andrew Ladd, Anthony Beauvillier, Noah Dobson & 1st round pick, a 3rd round pick for Panarin.

Of course this could just be Eklund manure talk..... I know Lou is pissed he lost Tavares, why doesn't he offer-sheet Nylander??..... Of course he could just wait, let the Leafs dig their own grave by signing Nylander to an extension, then go after Matthews or Marner..... If the Leafs extend Nylander they won't be able to extend both Matthews and Marner during the regular season without dumping cap which would make one of Matthews or Marner open for an offer-sheet come July 1st 2019. Well, unless Shanahan can move a guy like Marleau between the end of the playoffs/season and July 1st (and I don't see any GM doing Shanahan that favor, just so he could avoid the possibility of Matthews or Marner being offer-sheeted without something substantial in return)... If I was Lou that's exactly what I would do - piss all up in Shanahan's Cheerios by tossing a massive offer-sheet at Marner, lol... If I were Lou I would take the Tavares snub 100% personal. Obviously Lou won't have shot at Matthews, because he will get his extension before Marner but Marner will certainly be open to an offer-sheet unless Shanahan moves some salary.

But yea, if I'm Lou I'm not making any Panarin trade unless he's signed to a long-term contract, well unless he wants another Tavares situation.
moegillknee
Calgary Flames
Location: etobicoke, ON
Joined: 06.25.2015

Aug 7 @ 7:41 PM ET
If you take a closer look at marleau s contract you will see that he receives a bonus on july1 2019 .his salary after that bonus is paid is 1.25 mill.should be pretty easy to move him at that price.free s up the cap space to sign AM & MM.
bluestar
Location: ON
Joined: 12.20.2015

Aug 7 @ 8:10 PM ET
Wahlstrom or Dobson would have to be in the deal..

I think Panarin's intent is on re-signing in Chicago next summer, I think Bowman and Panarin had an agreement he would be re-signed the second free agency opens up on July 1st, 2019..

For sake of argument tho: say Panarin does agree to a sign & trade of perhaps 7-years at 9.5 per, it would have to be something like this:

Andrew Ladd, Anthony Beauvillier, Noah Dobson & 1st round pick, a 3rd round pick for Panarin.

Of course this could just be Eklund manure talk..... I know Lou is pissed he lost Tavares, why doesn't he offer-sheet Nylander??..... Of course he could just wait, let the Leafs dig their own grave by signing Nylander to an extension, then go after Matthews or Marner..... If the Leafs extend Nylander they won't be able to extend both Matthews and Marner during the regular season without dumping cap which would make one of Matthews or Marner open for an offer-sheet come July 1st 2019. Well, unless Shanahan can move a guy like Marleau between the end of the playoffs/season and July 1st (and I don't see any GM doing Shanahan that favor, just so he could avoid the possibility of Matthews or Marner being offer-sheeted without something substantial in return)... If I was Lou that's exactly what I would do - piss all up in Shanahan's Cheerios by tossing a massive offer-sheet at Marner, lol... If I were Lou I would take the Tavares snub 100% personal. Obviously Lou won't have shot at Matthews, because he will get his extension before Marner but Marner will certainly be open to an offer-sheet unless Shanahan moves some salary.

But yea, if I'm Lou I'm not making any Panarin trade unless he's signed to a long-term contract, well unless he wants another Tavares situation.

- Savard2Secord



Why in God's name would any of those future stars want to sign an offer sheet to play with that mess in Long Island?, who cares if Lou gives them an offer sheet, the player needs to sign it first and i bet none of those 3 players would want to sign it, no matter how much cash they were offered.

The Leafs are in better contention to win the Cup over the Islanders in the next few years.
minivinnie3
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 08.09.2010

Aug 7 @ 8:25 PM ET
Karlsson to the Isles
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Aug 7 @ 8:26 PM ET
Why in God's name would any of those future stars want to sign an offer sheet to play with that mess in Long Island?, who cares if Lou gives them an offer sheet, the player needs to sign it first and i bet none of those 3 players would want to sign it, no matter how much cash they were offered.

The Leafs are in better contention to win the Cup over the Islanders in the next few years.

- bluestar


Leafs will not win the Cup in your lifetime.
Savard2Secord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Round Lake, IL
Joined: 12.12.2016

Aug 7 @ 8:26 PM ET
If you take a closer look at marleau s contract you will see that he receives a bonus on july1 2019 .his salary after that bonus is paid is 1.25 mill.should be pretty easy to move him at that price.free s up the cap space to sign AM & MM.
- moegillknee


Marleau's salary for 2019-20 is $4,250,000 and his cap hit is still $6,250,000, and no GM is going to do Shanahan any favors so he can have his cake and eat it... Especially if you're one of the GM's looking to poach Marner..

Toronto is going to have a significant issue next summer.

As it stands today, Toronto only has 10 players signed for 2019-2020, and approximately $30,000,000 to work with (Shanahan has to sign 13-15 players).. The average of/between Nylander, Marner and Matthews will be at least $10,000,000.. So how does Toronto plan on signing 10 more players without moving any salary? it's just not going to happen.....Signing Tavares was a terrible idea, and I have no idea how the league even allowed it.

I'm a Hawks fan so it's not like I have any bias here - just looking at the salary situation on capfriendly for Toronto in 19-20 -- it doesn't look good. At the very least Shanahan is going to need to find a way to trade Marleau and 2 of Kadri, Zaitsev and Reilly, but even then the rest of the roster will have to be filled out with young cost controlled RFA's or bargain bin UFA's....

I have Leafs fans telling me all the time how it's going to be fine because Nylander, Matthews & Marner will "take discounts to stay together" when that is just fantasy... These guys are going to want to get paid - and I cant blame them. This is their opportunity to be financially set for the rest of their lives and they're not going to pass that up....Any players career could be derailed by injury at any moment in any game... So these kids are going to want as much as they can get on 8-year deals..

IMO, Tavares will get 13m, Marner 9.5 and Nylander 7.5.... Of course Matthews and Marner will get paid depending on how they do this season...I read some article where a Leafs writer "predicted" Matthews could score 60's goals - and if he achieves that well you're looking at 14-15 million per, and if Marner scores a PPG or higher - he's getting 10.... The only real hope Shanahan has right now is to try and get a really good deal on Nylander, but you can bet his camp is asking for 8 and Shanahan is talking more like 6 - I expect Nylander to sign for 7 to 7.5 long-term.

Toronto is going to be in "cap hell" x10, and that's going to open the doors for other GM's to really bend Shanahan over the table next summer..

As a Hawks fan I'm all too familiar with it, so I know what's going to happen - because I've seen it... The only problem here is Toronto will be in worse shape than the Hawks were ever in....

So yea, this season is Toronto's one shot er best shot to win the Cup before rabid GM's some pecking the Leafs roster alive like vultures..

twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Aug 7 @ 8:28 PM ET
Marleau's salary for 2019-20 is $4,250,000 and his cap hit is still $6,250,000, and no GM is going to do Shanahan any favors so he can have his cake and eat it... Especially if you're one of the GM's looking to poach Marner..

Toronto is going to have a significant issue next summer.

As it stands today, Toronto only has 10 players signed for 2019-2020, and approximately $30,000,000 to work with (Shanahan has to sign 13-15 players).. The average of/between Nylander, Marner and Matthews will be at least $10,000,000.. So how does Toronto plan on signing 10 more players without moving any salary? it's just not going to happen.....Signing Tavares was a terrible idea, and I have no idea how the league even allowed it.

I'm a Hawks fan so it's not like I have any bias here - just looking at the salary situation on capfriendly for Toronto in 19-20 -- it doesn't look good. At the very least Shanahan is going to need to find a way to trade Marleau and 2 of Kadri, Zaitsev and Reilly, but even then the rest of the roster will have to be filled out with young cost controlled RFA's or bargain bin UFA's....

I have Leafs fans telling me all the time how it's going to be fine because Nylander, Matthews & Marner will "take discounts to stay together" when that is just fantasy... These guys are going to want to get paid - and I cant blame them. This is their opportunity to be financially set for the rest of their lives and they're not going to pass that up....Any players career could be derailed by injury at any moment in any game... So these kids are going to want as much as they can get on 8-year deals..

IMO, Tavares will get 13m, Marner 9.5 and Nylander 7.5.... Of course Matthews and Marner will get paid depending on how they do this season...I read some article where a Leafs writer "predicted" Matthews could score 60's goals - and if he achieves that well you're looking at 14-15 million per, and if Marner scores a PPG or higher - he's getting 10.... The only real hope Shanahan has right now is to try and get a really good deal on Nylander, but you can bet his camp is asking for 8 and Shanahan is talking more like 6 - I expect Nylander to sign for 7 to 7.5 long-term.

Toronto is going to be in "cap hell" x10, and that's going to open the doors for other GM's to really bend Shanahan over the table next summer..

As a Hawks fan I'm all too familiar with it, so I know what's going to happen - because I've seen it... The only problem here is Toronto will be in worse shape than the Hawks were ever in....

So yea, this season is Toronto's one shot er best shot to win the Cup before rabid GM's some pecking the Leafs roster alive like vultures..

- Savard2Secord

wrong
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Aug 7 @ 8:43 PM ET
wrong
- twiztedmike

Lucy, you have some esplaining to do..
Savard2Secord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Round Lake, IL
Joined: 12.12.2016

Aug 7 @ 8:44 PM ET
Why in God's name would any of those future stars want to sign an offer sheet to play with that mess in Long Island?, who cares if Lou gives them an offer sheet, the player needs to sign it first and i bet none of those 3 players would want to sign it, no matter how much cash they were offered.

The Leafs are in better contention to win the Cup over the Islanders in the next few years.

- bluestar


It's called money....

These kids haven't made much money yet, this is their opportunity to get paid and they will... I mean the notion that Matthews, Marner or Nylander will "take one for the team" is laughable... They're not - it's never going to happen. As it stands today Matthews will get 13m, Marner 9.5 and Nylander 7.5... Of course they could all have elite seasons - which is something Leafs fans would love to see - but the better they do the more $$$$ they're going to cost to re-sign.

These kids damn well know that every game could be their last.. These next 2 contracts they will get will be the ones that will set them up for their entire lives..If you think Marner would turn down a 10 million dollar contract from the Islanders when Toronto is only offering 7.5 then you're out of your mind..... And it's not only the Islanders, there are a lot of GM's with a lot of cap space after this recent cap increase... Given Marner's age and what he does this season, yea I could see a slew of offer-sheets thrown at him......

I mean I don't see Matthews making it until July 1st without a contract extension, however Marner certainly will because the Leafs won't have enough cap space to extend Marner for what he wants...

So yea, Shanahan will probably get Nylander signed sometime in the next month, then at some point during the season will get Matthews an extension... Then at some point after the playoffs (probably the draft) will have to unload a few contracts - at least Marleau just to get Marner his extension before it's open season on him July 1st...But still - If Shanahan can accomplish that - he will still need to fill 10 roster spots (at least) with ZERO cap dollars to do it with, so that means 2 of Kadri, Reilly or Zaitsev will have to be moved just so Shanahan can fill out the roster...

TBH, the smartest thing Shanahan could do would be to move a big salary now, or even trade Nylander now, because that would solve a lot of problems down the road - not only that but at least he could get fair market value for a larger salary now, and that's not going to be the case when Shanahan has his back against the wall at next years draft knowing he has ZERO cap space and 10 players to sign...

I don't know what Shanahan was thinking when he signed Tavares knowing that he hast to get Matthews, Marner and Nylander signed to long-term deals, especially Matthews - that dude is getting paid McDavid money, perhaps more depending on what he does this season.


twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Aug 7 @ 8:46 PM ET
It's called money....

These kids haven't made much money yet, this is their opportunity to get paid and they will... I mean the notion that Matthews, Marner or Nylander will "take one for the team" is laughable... They're not - it's never going to happen. As it stands today Matthews will get 13m, Marner 9.5 and Nylander 7.5... Of course they could all have elite seasons - which is something Leafs fans would love to see - but the better they do the more $$$$ they're going to cost to re-sign.

These kids damn well know that every game could be their last.. These next 2 contracts they will get will be the ones that will set them up for their entire lives..If you think Marner would turn down a 10 million dollar contract from the Islanders when Toronto is only offering 7.5 then you're out of your mind..... And it's not only the Islanders, there are a lot of GM's with a lot of cap space after this recent cap increase... Given Marner's age and what he does this season, yea I could see a slew of offer-sheets thrown at him......

I mean I don't see Matthews making it until July 1st without a contract extension, however Marner certainly will because the Leafs won't have enough cap space to extend Marner for what he wants...

So yea, Shanahan will probably get Nylander signed sometime in the next month, then at some point during the season will get Matthews an extension... Then at some point after the playoffs (probably the draft) will have to unload a few contracts - at least Marleau just to get Marner his extension before it's open season on him July 1st...But still - If Shanahan can accomplish that - he will still need to fill 10 roster spots (at least) with ZERO cap dollars to do it with, so that means 2 of Kadri, Reilly or Zaitsev will have to be moved just so Shanahan can fill out the roster...

TBH, the smartest thing Shanahan could do would be to move a big salary now, or even trade Nylander now, because that would solve a lot of problems down the road - not only that but at least he could get fair market value for a larger salary now, and that's not going to be the case when Shanahan has his back against the wall at next years draft knowing he has ZERO cap space and 10 players to sign...

I don't know what Shanahan was thinking when he signed Tavares knowing that he hast to get Matthews, Marner and Nylander signed to long-term deals, especially Matthews - that dude is getting paid McDavid money, perhaps more depending on what he does this season.

- Savard2Secord

Shanahan is so dumb for signing a superstar!
Long posts mean you're really smart!
howiehockey
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 10.08.2005

Aug 7 @ 9:21 PM ET
When Jully 1, 2019 rolls around Panarin will not be a NY Islander...Panarin has bigger fish to fry.
In other words Panarin will not be an Islander for the 2019/20 season.
Itsjustarash
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 08.29.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:56 AM ET
Too bad the Isles got eff all last trade deadline for JT and will probably pay more than market value for Panarin.
bluestar
Location: ON
Joined: 12.20.2015

Aug 8 @ 6:47 AM ET
Leafs will not win the Cup in your lifetime.
- jimmc7722


they sure have a better chance than your captain highlanders.
redsfanhere
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: columbus, OH
Joined: 02.17.2012

Aug 8 @ 8:16 AM ET
I really miss Britney looking like this, has anyone seen her lately?, geesh, i know we all change looks-wise as we get older but she went straight to the old and ugly look within 10 years.
- bluestar



you miss them pantie shots
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Aug 8 @ 10:24 AM ET
you miss them pantie shots
- redsfanhere

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