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Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Sep 13 @ 7:45 PM ET
Ohhhh Ottawa...
coohill
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Louisville, CO
Joined: 03.15.2007

Sep 13 @ 7:46 PM ET
Super excited for the Avs. They need all the help they can get with Sakic running the show.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 13 @ 8:14 PM ET
"Their first round pick belongs to the Colorado Avalanche who are popping champagne in the mountains." hahaha

MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 13 @ 8:15 PM ET
Anyone excited to see Matt Cullen and Jack Johnson play their 1st game for us? I sure am.😄
- Barnaby36


Yes!... It's more so the whole team, but yes!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 13 @ 8:25 PM ET
I'm in Pittsburgh for the night. I'm going down to End Zone on Freeport Road. Come see me, I'll be the dude rocking the Flyers shirt.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Sep 13 @ 8:42 PM ET
So, Rust, Sprong and a 2019 1st gets this done easily then.....
- RoloTahmasee


In my opinion you don't give that up for a rental, and signed you try at least to get one of the higher paid defenders off the book as well.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 13 @ 8:56 PM ET
In my opinion you don't give that up for a rental, and signed you try at least to get one of the higher paid defenders off the book as well.
- VeryModernMan


Given the makeup if the Pens, I'd absolutely do that deal.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Sep 13 @ 9:12 PM ET
Now before any Pens' fan laugh at what Ottawa got in return, just remember what Pittsburgh got for the 2nd leading scorer in hockey history.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Sep 13 @ 9:18 PM ET
Now before any Pens' fan laugh at what Ottawa got in return, just remember what Pittsburgh got for the 2nd leading scorer in hockey history.
- stevens87


Touché, but at least he once again (2000 with Straka vs. Devils) saved the franchise... getting the dollars off the book.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 13 @ 9:26 PM ET
Now before any Pens' fan laugh at what Ottawa got in return, just remember what Pittsburgh got for the 2nd leading scorer in hockey history.
- stevens87


Different time and place. But yeah, it was quite underwhelming.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Sep 13 @ 9:30 PM ET
Different time and place. But yeah, it was quite underwhelming.
- jmatchett383

Yeah and it put them on the path of 5 top 5 picks in a row, 3 of which were very strong draft years, resulting in 3 Stanley cups with the best of those drafted players playing key roles.

So what’s good for the goofs is good for the gander.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Sep 13 @ 9:30 PM ET
A little bit more than that.

Rust Sprong 2 1st round picks (since San Jose has a much better shot at missing playoffs and a premium for trading with east) and another piece.

We should have done it and found a way to sign him. 10 million a year so bye bye hornqvist and Schultz. Seems like a great deal for us. We can ship out those two for likely a 1st each.

So actual costs would be rust sprong hornqvist Schultz and maybe like brassard as the third line center type piece going to Ottawa.

Depth would take a huge hit. We would need to hit the smart vet minimum ufa market hard.

Core of Crosby Malkin kessel guentzel letang karrlson

We would actually clear a little cap if he signed for 10 million. Horn Schultz brassard eat up I believe 14 million. So we would have $2 million per forward for 2 ufa free agent plug in forwards.

EK can likely find better situations in free agency, but San Jose will be competitive even if they are aging. A better situation than Ottawa.

With injury risks I bet EK signs before the season starts. NHL contracts are guaranteed. It might be good logic to wait for the UFA opportunity but he’s signing for $80 million. Simply too much generational money to risks a freak injury on.

If somehow he makes it to UFA I think we should definitely offer 10/year. Find a way to make it work. If the cap rises all we would need to do is let hagelin walk and trade Schultz or hornqvist or Maatta. Maybe both if guentzel higher contract kicks in. Oh well ek is worth it.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Sep 13 @ 9:33 PM ET
In my opinion you don't give that up for a rental, and signed you try at least to get one of the higher paid defenders off the book as well.
- VeryModernMan

What blows me away is that they probably could have gotten a similar return at the TDL & he traded to a GM that had just made him look like a fckg imbecile on the Hoffman flip. Why would he go back to Wilson & give him the deal?? Maybe Dorian needs one team to land to when he's run out of Ottawa. Besides San Jose who he did good work for, he wont get another job in the NHL after this stint in Ottawa is done.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Sep 13 @ 9:34 PM ET
Now before any Pens' fan laugh at what Ottawa got in return, just remember what Pittsburgh got for the 2nd leading scorer in hockey history.
- stevens87


Different era. Wasn’t jagr making like 13/year. Which is like 20 today.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 13 @ 9:45 PM ET
Super excited for the Avs. They need all the help they can get with Sakic running the show.
- coohill


ugh what? I guess you have had your head stuck in the sand for the last 2 years or just believe whatever Ryan writes if thats what you think
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Sep 13 @ 9:57 PM ET
Gotta love when a blogger/fan of another team looks down on organizations. I mean, you are fortunate enough to be a fan of a good team, through no effort of your own. Unless you’re a bandwagon jumper ( Blackhawk fans) the lowest form of life in the sports world.
- HonkyTonkMan


shut up.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Sep 13 @ 9:59 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: How did Ottawa get here?
How did Ottawa get here?

- Ryan_Wilson

F the sens
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 13 @ 10:09 PM ET
F the sens
- homiedclown


pretty sure wilson just did.......f'd them raw
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 13 @ 10:11 PM ET
What blows me away is that they probably could have gotten a similar return at the TDL & he traded to a GM that had just made him look like a fckg imbecile on the Hoffman flip. Why would he go back to Wilson & give him the deal?? Maybe Dorian needs one team to land to when he's run out of Ottawa. Besides San Jose who he did good work for, he wont get another job in the NHL after this stint in Ottawa is done.
- Kevin R


dorion will never work as a GM again once he gets canned in ottawa (can't happen fast enough)......but you can almost guarantee he'll get a job, and probably a good one, in a teams scouting department. the guy has a solid eye for drafting.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 13 @ 10:45 PM ET
dorion will never work as a GM again once he gets canned in ottawa (can't happen fast enough)......but you can almost guarantee he'll get a job, and probably a good one, in a teams scouting department. the guy has a solid eye for drafting.
- sensarmy_11

Have any of his picks become nhl stars? Or are they just picks that look fancy outside the NHL like every other team?
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Sep 13 @ 10:56 PM ET
shut up.
- Blackstrom2

You shut the (frank) up.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 13 @ 10:57 PM ET
Have any of his picks become nhl stars? Or are they just picks that look fancy outside the NHL like every other team?
- systemtool


he was the driving factor in drafting karlsson (15th), stone (6th rd), hoffman (5th rd), silverberg (2nd rd), dzingel (7th rd), pageau (4th rd), chabot (18th pick), wolanin (4th rd)

he's a (frank)ing awful GM, but he's a good scout
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 13 @ 11:06 PM ET
he was the driving factor in drafting karlsson (15th), stone (6th rd), hoffman (5th rd), silverberg (2nd rd), dzingel (7th rd), pageau (4th rd), chabot (18th pick), wolanin (4th rd)

he's a (frank)ing awful GM, but he's a good scout

- sensarmy_11



That was all Bryan Murray. Rip.

He kept that franchise together..nevermind the false Dorion scout hype. If he had an eye for talent he would have brought it in through trades. BM had a knack for drafting talent long before he got to ottawa. He didn't need puppet Dorion.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 13 @ 11:25 PM ET
Gotta love when a blogger/fan of another team looks down on organizations. I mean, you are fortunate enough to be a fan of a good team, through no effort of your own. Unless you’re a bandwagon jumper ( Blackhawk fans) the lowest form of life in the sports world.
- HonkyTonkMan


😂 😂 😂
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 13 @ 11:34 PM ET
That was all Bryan Murray. Rip.

He kept that franchise together..nevermind the false Dorion scout hype. If he had an eye for talent he would have brought it in through trades. BM had a knack for drafting talent long before he got to ottawa. He didn't need puppet Dorion.

- systemtool


maybe.....but dorion was always given a lot of the credit, even by murray. that being said, murray seemed like the kind of guy to give the credit to someone else.

who really knows

i'm sure they were both involved

atleast we can both agree that he's a terrible GM
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