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Trevor Shackles
Ottawa Senators
Location: Richmond, BC
Joined: 05.18.2018

Sep 21 @ 8:23 AM ET
Trevor Shackles: Gets Exciteds fors Rudolfs Balcers Newly acquired winger Rudolfs Balcers could end up being a very solid player
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 21 @ 9:35 AM ET
Trevor Shackles: Gets Exciteds fors Rudolfs Balcers
Newly acquired winger Rudolfs Balcers could end up being a very solid player

- Trevor Shackles

A+ title
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Sep 21 @ 9:59 AM ET
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 21 @ 10:28 AM ET
Will Tkachuck play tongiht?
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Sep 21 @ 10:50 AM ET
A+ title
- eichiefs9

Seconded. At first, I thought Trevor was drunk when he posed it.
poopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 03.21.2015

Sep 21 @ 10:54 AM ET
Maybe title of the year. Garf must be jealous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzwmVVut4jw
Drapz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 07.10.2007

Sep 21 @ 11:37 AM ET
https://youtu.be/nzwmVVut4jw?t=65
DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

Sep 21 @ 12:42 PM ET
Well done Trevor. He looks an intruiging prospect for sure. I've actually had the pleasure of watching him play a couple of times in Europe. Now he is much better though
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 21 @ 1:58 PM ET
I am not in the headspace of wanting to say anything positive about Melnyk and by extension Dorion. But, it is clear to me the deal for Karlsson is a bit better than what the media has suggested. And, it is far better than what Montreal got for Paciorotti.

The return for Karlsson includes:

Chris Tierney (age 24) played 82 games for SJ. 17 goals, 23 assists

Dylan Demelo (age 25) played 62 games for SJ, 20 assists

Rudolf Balcers (age 21) leading scorer San Jose Barracuda (5th round pick)

Josh Norris (age 19) U. of Michigan, US National Team (19th overall pick 2017)

2nd Round pick 2019 Either Florida or SJ (Ottawa option)

1st Round pick 2020 But if SJ misses playoffs in 2019 Ottawa gets SJ 2019 first round pick

2nd Round pick 2021. But if Karlsson signs with SJ this becomes a 1st in 2021.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 21 @ 2:05 PM ET
I am not in the headspace of wanting to say anything positive about Melnyk and by extension Dorion. But, it is clear to me the deal for Karlsson is a bit better than what the media has suggested. And, it is far better than what Montreal got for Paciorotti.

The return for Karlsson includes:

Chris Tierney (age 24) played 82 games for SJ. 17 goals, 23 assists

Dylan Demelo (age 25) played 62 games for SJ, 20 assists

Rudolf Balcers (age 21) leading scorer San Jose Barracuda (5th round pick)

Josh Norris (age 19) U. of Michigan, US National Team (19th overall pick 2017)

2nd Round pick 2019 Either Florida or SJ (Ottawa option)

1st Round pick 2020 But if SJ misses playoffs in 2019 Ottawa gets SJ 2019 first round pick

2nd Round pick 2021. But if Karlsson signs with SJ this becomes a 1st in 2021.

- spatso


bolded is not right....

it's a 2nd rd pick if Karlsson re-signs, and it turns into a 1st if SJ makes the SCF this year.

also, if he's traded this season to an EC team they get another 1st
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 21 @ 2:11 PM ET
bolded is not right....

it's a 2nd rd pick if Karlsson re-signs, and it turns into a 1st if SJ makes the SCF this year.

also, if he's traded this season to an EC team they get another 1st

- sensarmy_11


That makes a difference. I took it off of Capfriendly and probably misread the detail.

Yes, just reread Capf..It is exactly as you described.
Mpepe1084
Ottawa Senators
Location: CT
Joined: 01.15.2009

Sep 21 @ 2:17 PM ET
bolded is not right....

it's a 2nd rd pick if Karlsson re-signs, and it turns into a 1st if SJ makes the SCF this year.

also, if he's traded this season to an EC team they get another 1st

- sensarmy_11


What if neither of those things happen? Does Ottawa not get that extra pick or does it change to some other pick?
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 21 @ 2:21 PM ET
What if neither of those things happen? Does Ottawa not get that extra pick or does it change to some other pick?
- Mpepe1084


They get nothing if neither happen. EDIT: Same if San Jose makes the finals and Karlsson doesn't resign.
SwingersOfSultan
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2018

Sep 21 @ 2:35 PM ET
I am not in the headspace of wanting to say anything positive about Melnyk and by extension Dorion. But, it is clear to me the deal for Karlsson is a bit better than what the media has suggested. And, it is far better than what Montreal got for Paciorotti.

The return for Karlsson includes:

Chris Tierney (age 24) played 82 games for SJ. 17 goals, 23 assists

Dylan Demelo (age 25) played 62 games for SJ, 20 assists

Rudolf Balcers (age 21) leading scorer San Jose Barracuda (5th round pick)

Josh Norris (age 19) U. of Michigan, US National Team (19th overall pick 2017)

2nd Round pick 2019 Either Florida or SJ (Ottawa option)

1st Round pick 2020 But if SJ misses playoffs in 2019 Ottawa gets SJ 2019 first round pick

2nd Round pick 2021. But if Karlsson signs with SJ this becomes a 1st in 2021.

- spatso




Yeah for Erik Karlsson.



Suzuki>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trade package for Karlsson
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 21 @ 2:38 PM ET
What if neither of those things happen? Does Ottawa not get that extra pick or does it change to some other pick?
- Mpepe1084


Not sure what happens if they make the SCF but he walks.

If neither happens then there is no pick
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 21 @ 2:44 PM ET
Yeah for Erik Karlsson.



Suzuki>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trade package for Karlsson

- SwingersOfSultan


Congrats.....you win the most retarded post on hockeybuzz for the week


Suzuki isn't even a top 50 prospect

Norris and Suzuki are similarly ranked, plus sens got 2 good roster players, another solid prospect and two or three 1st or 2nd rd picks.

Your post is beyond retarded
SwingersOfSultan
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2018

Sep 21 @ 3:40 PM ET
Congrats.....you win the most retarded post on hockeybuzz for the week


Suzuki isn't even a top 50 prospect

Norris and Suzuki are similarly ranked, plus sens got 2 good roster players, another solid prospect and two or three 1st or 2nd rd picks.

Your post is beyond retarded

- sensarmy_11




Okay let's try Duchene return versus Karlsson return.

For Duchene
2019 lottery 1st round pick or 2018 1st (could have been Zadina or Tkatchuk), Girard, Bowers, Kamenev, 2nd and 3rd.


For Karlsson
Balcers, Tierney, Norris and conditional picks oh yeah and DeMelo



God it's really hard not to love what Melnyk and Dorion are doing here...................









Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 21 @ 3:43 PM ET
Okay let's try Duchene return versus Karlsson return.

For Duchene
2019 lottery 1st round pick or 2018 1st (could have been Zadina or Tkatchuk), Girard, Bowers, Kamenev, 2nd and 3rd.


For Karlsson
Balcers, Tierney, Norris and conditional picks oh yeah and DeMelo



God it's really hard not to love what Melnyk and Dorion are doing here...................









- SwingersOfSultan


randybobandy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kanata, ON
Joined: 08.23.2018

Sep 21 @ 3:52 PM ET
Congrats.....you win the most retarded post on hockeybuzz for the week


Suzuki isn't even a top 50 prospect

Norris and Suzuki are similarly ranked, plus sens got 2 good roster players, another solid prospect and two or three 1st or 2nd rd picks.

Your post is beyond retarded

- sensarmy_11



I was listening to Team690 in Montreal. They said Suzuki is rated somewhere in the 30's and the 2 prospects that Ottawa got weren't even in the top 100.
SwingersOfSultan
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2018

Sep 21 @ 3:54 PM ET

- Scabeh




Being retarded is better than being dillusuonal *cough* Spatso *cough*
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Sep 21 @ 3:56 PM ET
I was listening to Team690 in Montreal. They said Suzuki is rated somewhere in the 30's and the 2 prospects that Ottawa got weren't even in the top 100.
- randybobandy
And Nail Yakupov was drafted 1st overall while Colton Parayko wasn't even taken in the top 80.

I firmly say that the Sens should have waited until next feb with Karlsson in the fold. Told him to keep his mouth shut and just play the best he can. THEN at the deadline let him go to a contending team at the best price (along with a Duchene or Stone) for a massive return. Even if you don't throw in someone else the fact is Karlsson helps sell tickets AND would make the pick the Avs get worse than what it will be now
SwingersOfSultan
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2018

Sep 21 @ 3:59 PM ET
I was listening to Team690 in Montreal. They said Suzuki is rated somewhere in the 30's and the 2 prospects that Ottawa got weren't even in the top 100.
- randybobandy



I imagine Norris would have to be in the top 100?
Habs media is completely unbiased.
But honestly I think Suzuki is a good get. I had no idea Bergevin was capable of doing good in a trade.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
I was listening to Team690 in Montreal. They said Suzuki is rated somewhere in the 30's and the 2 prospects that Ottawa got weren't even in the top 100.
- randybobandy


NHL.com released their top 50 and Suzuki is t in it.......the Montreal radio is just trying to appease their fans

Norris drafted only a few spots behind Suzuki.....similar prospects. One played CHL and one played NCAA
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 21 @ 4:02 PM ET
Being retarded is better than being dillusuonal *cough* Spatso *cough*

- SwingersOfSultan


True....guess that makes you slightly better than spatso
randybobandy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kanata, ON
Joined: 08.23.2018

Sep 21 @ 4:30 PM ET
I imagine Norris would have to be in the top 100?
Habs media is completely unbiased.
But honestly I think Suzuki is a good get. I had no idea Bergevin was capable of doing good in a trade.

- SwingersOfSultan


"Bargain Bin" Bergevin is good at making small deals to improve the bottom 6 and 3rd pairing D. But all his major moves have backfired on him
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