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Trevor Shackles
Ottawa Senators
Location: Richmond, BC
Joined: 05.18.2018

Sep 23 @ 2:35 PM ET
Trevor Shackles: Senators Roster Beginning to Take Shape The Senators made many cuts today and their roster is close to being set
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
Good review.

I think Formenton and Tkachuck are locks. Formenton plays a strong defensive game and had the best hit of the game Friday night against Chicago.

I think Chlapik has shown more than White.

The Lajoie thing is intriguing. Last year in camp Boucher raved about his hockey smarts and how much better he makes everyone else around him (always in position). I have not seen it. I expect Wolanin to dress opening night.

david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 23 @ 3:13 PM ET
I agree that Formenton will likely start with the team, but would perhaps benefit from a longer sting developing. That speed of that line is intriguing though, so I think they should try it out. I just hope they actually play him if they're going to have him up here for 9 games this time.

If that's the case, will I assume Tierny will start as the second line center. With Chlapik or White seeing who will center Ryan and Boedker.
Liamace
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 05.15.2018

Sep 23 @ 3:46 PM ET
Maccormick is nothing but an untalented old school goon who shouldnt be in the ahl let alone the nhl
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 23 @ 3:47 PM ET
I agree that Formenton will likely start with the team, but would perhaps benefit from a longer sting developing. That speed of that line is intriguing though, so I think they should try it out. I just hope they actually play him if they're going to have him up here for 9 games this time.

If that's the case, will I assume Tierny will start as the second line center. With Chlapik or White seeing who will center Ryan and Boedker.

- david22


I think Brown has been sent down to work on his speed, face offs and defensive positioning. I expect he is back before Christmas and will play 2nd line centre. I think they see too much in him to play him third or fourth line minutes. Better to go to Belleville and load up on ice time.

DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

Sep 23 @ 4:34 PM ET
Fine with Brown going down. Chlapik is better in his own end rigbt now.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Sep 23 @ 4:42 PM ET
So anyone else want to mention Sens are 0-4 and have no 1st this year - IN A REBUILD !!
Trevor Shackles
Ottawa Senators
Location: Richmond, BC
Joined: 05.18.2018

Sep 23 @ 5:34 PM ET
So anyone else want to mention Sens are 0-4 and have no 1st this year - IN A REBUILD !!
- AlfieisKing


Nobody has ever noticed that
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 23 @ 6:10 PM ET
So anyone else want to mention Sens are 0-4 and have no 1st this year - IN A REBUILD !!
- AlfieisKing



You have to disconnect the loss of the draft pick and the play of the young guys.

Hitting bottom is a process and it means learning to enjoy watching the kids grow.

The organizational stuff will work itself out.

Need to find enjoyment in being a fan in the most pedestrian ways.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 23 @ 6:57 PM ET
You have to disconnect the loss of the draft pick and the play of the young guys.

Hitting bottom is a process and it means learning to enjoy watching the kids grow.

The organizational stuff will work itself out.

Need to find enjoyment in being a fan in the most pedestrian ways.

- spatso


Why not just change the team you are cheering for, and then chirp the rest of the Sens fans. That would be familiar and comfortable for you.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Sep 23 @ 7:15 PM ET
You have to disconnect the loss of the draft pick and the play of the young guys.

Hitting bottom is a process and it means learning to enjoy watching the kids grow.

The organizational stuff will work itself out.

Need to find enjoyment in being a fan in the most pedestrian ways.

- spatso

I don't know......
the direction of the team HAS to come into question. Why not have vets that play this year and have more guys play in Bingo. How much will their game grow chasing the pick (some of them) and being put in positions they shoudn't be in.

Hypothetical, bringing in a vet top 4 D-man to allow Chabot, Wolanin, and Jaros to have more time to develop. Don't think Demelo & Wideman is enough
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Sep 23 @ 7:42 PM ET
Why not just change the team you are cheering for, and then chirp the rest of the Sens fans. That would be familiar and comfortable for you.
- Aetherial

Great post. So you are proposing that one deletes their account and starts a new one as a fan of another team?
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Sep 23 @ 10:32 PM ET
From what I've seen, Tkachuk and Formenton are virtual locks to be on the opening night roster. Brown has the puck skills to play in the NHL, but really needs to improve his skating and faceoffs (eg. going 0-7 last night). McCormick has a 1-way deal, and likely isn't going anywhere. Carey has done nothing exceptional to warrant a roster spot, and I think they'll make a point of having at least 1 other high-end prospect on the starting roster. If that comes down to White and Chlapik, I'd be inclined to give the edge to White... plus, I think the team maybe feels he's owed a fresh start after breaking his wrist last pre-season.

Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Sep 24 @ 6:03 AM ET
Serious question.

How close is the starting team to the team Melnyk alluded to in 'that' interview?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 24 @ 10:59 AM ET
Great post. So you are proposing that one deletes their account and starts a new one as a fan of another team?
- leonkennedy


Interesting, the account deletion option is certainly intriguing. I wonder how that would work. Would it be a spontaneous, free-will, deletion, born out of frustration, for the sole purpose of hiding your embarrassment? Or, would the deletion be the result of a lost bet, subsequently followed by a team switch, in order to hide your embarrassment?

I am not sure there is a difference, but it is certainly worth discussing.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 24 @ 11:00 AM ET
Serious question.

How close is the starting team to the team Melnyk alluded to in 'that' interview?

- Aussiepenguin


You have to count the rookies. If there are 10 or more than it is very close.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 24 @ 11:16 AM ET
Why not just change the team you are cheering for, and then chirp the rest of the Sens fans. That would be familiar and comfortable for you.
- Aetherial


lol
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 24 @ 11:22 AM ET
Interesting, the account deletion option is certainly intriguing. I wonder how that would work. Would it be a spontaneous, free-will, deletion, born out of frustration, for the sole purpose of hiding your embarrassment? Or, would the deletion be the result of a lost bet, subsequently followed by a team switch, in order to hide your embarrassment?

I am not sure there is a difference, but it is certainly worth discussing.

- Aetherial


Augustine of Hippo (354 AD) changed how we measured and understood time in the face of history. The Roman Empire was collapsing, the heathens were at the gate. Augustine taught that the flow of human history involved success and failures and time was not a mere linear progression of always better and always successful.

Same applies to sports franchises. At some point your capacity for success tops out. At that time, you need to step back and reevaluate your options and choices.

The minute you accept the revised perspective you can enjoy the progression towards more modest goals. I have enjoyed watching the play of the kids so far. I have decided to enjoy this season.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 24 @ 12:07 PM ET
Trade me Stone already. Friedman is teasing me with this buzz
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 24 @ 12:23 PM ET
Augustine of Hippo (354 AD) changed how we measured and understood time in the face of history. The Roman Empire was collapsing, the heathens were at the gate. Augustine taught that the flow of human history involved success and failures and time was not a mere linear progression of always better and always successful.

Same applies to sports franchises. At some point your capacity for success tops out. At that time, you need to step back and reevaluate your options and choices.

The minute you accept the revised perspective you can enjoy the progression towards more modest goals. I have enjoyed watching the play of the kids so far. I have decided to enjoy this season.

- spatso


david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 24 @ 12:44 PM ET
Trade me Stone already. Friedman is teasing me with this buzz
- DDM-Coga


Make us an offer.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 24 @ 12:51 PM ET
Make us an offer.
- david22


Avs 1st and Kamenev

Interesting that Avs and sens keep on checking in with one another with stone...Hey Joe do you want to trade for him yet....maybe we want to see what Jost, Kerfoot, Kaut are this year before we do, ill get back to you

Hey Joe, its PD again, you still thinking Stone, want to give us that 1st back...Joe not really but we will get back to you, maybe next week
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Sep 24 @ 1:27 PM ET
Avs 1st and Kamenev

Interesting that Avs and sens keep on checking in with one another with stone...Hey Joe do you want to trade for him yet....maybe we want to see what Jost, Kerfoot, Kaut are this year before we do, ill get back to you

Hey Joe, its PD again, you still thinking Stone, want to give us that 1st back...Joe not really but we will get back to you, maybe next week

- DDM-Coga

Garrioch said the reason a one year deal was signed was because both dides were far apart on salary. He expects the will talk about a longer extension once the season is a bit farther along. Im probably being naive, but im optimistic we can keep Stone long term. No better guy to mentor our young players.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 24 @ 1:42 PM ET
Garrioch said the reason a one year deal was signed was because both dides were far apart on salary. He expects the will talk about a longer extension once the season is a bit farther along. Im probably being naive, but im optimistic we can keep Stone long term. No better guy to mentor our young players.
- forbetterorWORSE


IMO Hes not signing an extension now, the guy is hitting the market and will get paid. What may have been the rationale back then in July, a lot has changed since then. They cant sign an extension till Jan 1st and a commitment to the rebuild, cant see them gambling in extending him after the deadline.

Stone is a hired gun who they will traded, same with Karlsson, samd with Turris and the others before them, Melynk wont open up his wallet to keep them. When the big boys in Friedman are getting solid information on him being on the market, its not if, its when he will be moved.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 24 @ 1:51 PM ET
Avs 1st and Kamenev

Interesting that Avs and sens keep on checking in with one another with stone...Hey Joe do you want to trade for him yet....maybe we want to see what Jost, Kerfoot, Kaut are this year before we do, ill get back to you

Hey Joe, its PD again, you still thinking Stone, want to give us that 1st back...Joe not really but we will get back to you, maybe next week

- DDM-Coga


I;'m confident even Dorion could get back more than that for Stone. It seems Kamenev is having trouble making the jump to the NHL from what I've read.
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