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Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 4 @ 9:10 PM ET
That's an exhausting sentence that I've been reading hundreds of times. "Your GM made bad trades, therefore I can't show even a modicum of respect to you or the rest of your fanbase in actually trying to propose something that would make for an interesting discussion". Not only is your reasoning for it unoriginal and inane, you didn't even put enough effort in to make it remotely funny. Congrats, internet cretin.
- MaximumBone


Ignoring the fact that I just got shredded, gathered up piece by piece, trash compacted, and lit on fire here: Edmonton has nothing I want and can actually have, aside from Klefbom. Everyone but him is untouchable, or terrible
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 4 @ 9:12 PM ET
I would not do that trade. Ehlers is a Kariya/Bure type player and is proven. Both players you want are unproven. If I trade Ehlers, I want a Center coming back.
- TheUltimateJet


I agree with this 100%. The thing that’s even more fun about is that with Little having a sudden resurgence, another center isn’t even a problem. Just let Petan or Copp run the 4th line, and you’re 4 lines deep with overqualified centremen
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Nov 4 @ 9:36 PM ET
I would not do that trade. Ehlers is a Kariya/Bure type player and is proven. Both players you want are unproven. If I trade Ehlers, I want a Center coming back.
- TheUltimateJet

I think you over value ehlers and I also don’t think you’d get the type of Center you want for him unless you want a Center deep on the back 9 of his career.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 4 @ 9:45 PM ET
I think you over value ehlers and I also don’t think you’d get the type of Center you want for him unless you want a Center deep on the back 9 of his career.
- Ross77


On-Ehlers is a legit, top line forward who does basically everything at a top level.
Off-Ehlers is basically just a space creating, zone entry god who can’t seem to get anything done once hes got it out of our end and into theirs
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Nov 4 @ 10:56 PM ET
I think you over value ehlers and I also don’t think you’d get the type of Center you want for him unless you want a Center deep on the back 9 of his career.
- Ross77


Than trading him for Pulijarvi makes no sense. If you want a Finish forward to compliment Laine, I suggest looking at Aho or Barkov.

Funny enough My boy Joel Armia so far has more goal than Wheeler, and Ehlers.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Nov 5 @ 12:07 AM ET
Ignoring the fact that I just got shredded, gathered up piece by piece, trash compacted, and lit on fire here: Edmonton has nothing I want and can actually have, aside from Klefbom. Everyone but him is untouchable, or terrible
- Rexypoo

That's an angle to this discussion that you can reasonably take I think the only players on the Jets of any interest to me would be Ehlers or Trouba but you don't trade Dmen top pairing Dmen for wingers (unless Taylor Hall, ofc) and Trouba's cost uncertainty is too much of a risk compared to Klefbom's 4.16mil.

Apologies if I went overboard earlier; I've seen innumerable variations of that sentence to the point that I have a rather spiteful reaction to it.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Nov 5 @ 9:17 AM ET
Than trading him for Pulijarvi makes no sense. If you want a Finish forward to compliment Laine, I suggest looking at Aho or Barkov.

Funny enough My boy Joel Armia so far has more goal than Wheeler, and Ehlers.

- TheUltimateJet

never suggested trading ehlers straight up for Pulju.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Nov 5 @ 9:30 AM ET
never suggested trading ehlers straight up for Pulju.
- Ross77


So you are suggesting: trading Myers and Ehlers for Klefbom, with Pulijarvi as a throw in? That trade to me makes no sense. Could you explain how you would rationalize it?
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Nov 5 @ 10:35 AM ET
So you are suggesting: trading Myers and Ehlers for Klefbom, with Pulijarvi as a throw in? That trade to me makes no sense. Could you explain how you would rationalize it?
- TheUltimateJet


simple, Klefbom is on a great contract and is far better than myers who is a pending ufa and will be over paid on his next deal. Pulju, is off to a slow start in his career but I still see a very high upside. I noticed his English is still very poor and think this may also be playing a part. ehlers is better than Pulju today, 2-3 years from now I'm not so sure? and this deal saves us on cap space which we still desperately need.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Nov 5 @ 10:37 AM ET
also fellas,

haven't forgotten about a night out to get together, i'm now thinking first 2 weeks of December, maybe plan it on a night the Jets are on the road, so we can watch and argue during lol? sorry I haven't done this sooner, just very busy at work and have been travelling a ton.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Nov 5 @ 11:54 AM ET
simple, Klefbom is on a great contract and is far better than myers who is a pending ufa and will be over paid on his next deal. Pulju, is off to a slow start in his career but I still see a very high upside. I noticed his English is still very poor and think this may also be playing a part. ehlers is better than Pulju today, 2-3 years from now I'm not so sure? and this deal saves us on cap space which we still desperately need.
- Ross77


I don't agree with this rationale. Ehlers is on a team friendly contract, especially considering what Nylander wants and what Draisaitl got. If i am to make the trade for Pulu and Klefbom. I am more likely to trade Myers plus a 2019 first. Ehlers is a proven top 10 pick.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Nov 5 @ 11:54 AM ET
also fellas,

haven't forgotten about a night out to get together, i'm now thinking first 2 weeks of December, maybe plan it on a night the Jets are on the road, so we can watch and argue during lol? sorry I haven't done this sooner, just very busy at work and have been travelling a ton.

- Ross77


I am in.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 5 @ 12:43 PM ET
I am in.
- TheUltimateJet

In
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 5 @ 12:44 PM ET
I don't agree with this rationale. Ehlers is on a team friendly contract, especially considering what Nylander wants and what Draisaitl got. If i am to make the trade for Pulu and Klefbom. I am more likely to trade Myers plus a 2019 first. Ehlers is a proven top 10 pick.
- TheUltimateJet


Myers isn’t worth either of them, nor is our 1st. Ehlers is the most valuable piece in the hypothetical deal, yes, but Myers is the least
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 5 @ 12:45 PM ET
That's an angle to this discussion that you can reasonably take I think the only players on the Jets of any interest to me would be Ehlers or Trouba but you don't trade Dmen top pairing Dmen for wingers (unless Taylor Hall, ofc) and Trouba's cost uncertainty is too much of a risk compared to Klefbom's 4.16mil.

Apologies if I went overboard earlier; I've seen innumerable variations of that sentence to the point that I have a rather spiteful reaction to it.

- MaximumBone


All good, man. Oilers fans probably take enough sh*t as it is.

Would you consider Myers and a 1st for Klefbom?
I don’t know what’s fair for the Klefdaddy
sparky1957
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 11.03.2016

Nov 5 @ 1:46 PM ET
And Wheeler was worse last year than the year before. Points aren’t everything
- Rexypoo

frank you. Wheeler was top 10 in scoring last year you idiot How dare you throw the heart and soul of this team under the bus. Again, go back to your mothers basement and crawl under the covers. You have no idea what you are talking about
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Nov 5 @ 2:17 PM ET
Myers isn’t worth either of them, nor is our 1st. Ehlers is the most valuable piece in the hypothetical deal, yes, but Myers is the least
- Rexypoo



i think its weird that Jets fan consistently bash our #5 defenseman and #12 and #13 forwards. I think more onus needs to be put on our top players.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Nov 5 @ 2:18 PM ET
frank you. Wheeler was top 10 in scoring last year you idiot How dare you throw the heart and soul of this team under the bus. Again, go back to your mothers basement and crawl under the covers. You have no idea what you are talking about
- sparky1957



No reason to name call anyone.
sparky1957
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 11.03.2016

Nov 5 @ 2:34 PM ET
No reason to name call anyone.
- TheUltimateJet

It is when the guy consistently bad mouths our good players and praises the bad ones (Dano,Postma etc)
liverpoolnhl
Joined: 02.06.2018

Nov 5 @ 3:19 PM ET
No reason to name call anyone.
- TheUltimateJet

Couldn't agree more Ultimate.....
liverpoolnhl
Joined: 02.06.2018

Nov 5 @ 3:24 PM ET
Ignoring the fact that I just got shredded, gathered up piece by piece, trash compacted, and lit on fire here: Edmonton has nothing I want and can actually have, aside from Klefbom. Everyone but him is untouchable, or terrible
- Rexypoo


"Apologies if I went overboard earlier; I've seen innumerable variations of that sentence to the point that I have a rather spiteful reaction to it." MaximumBone

This is how adults discuss honest disagreements.....
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
frank you. Wheeler was top 10 in scoring last year you idiot How dare you throw the heart and soul of this team under the bus. Again, go back to your mothers basement and crawl under the covers. You have no idea what you are talking about
- sparky1957


Points aren’t everything. His powerplay production tripled, while every single aspect of his game at 5 on 5 regressed a bit. Let’s not get it twisted, Wheeler is still excellent, he’s just not as good as he used to be. Age gets everyone.

I have a Wheeler jersey on my basement wall, btw. Love the guy, he is 100% the captain we need, but I’m not gonna lie and say I don’t see the cracks forming in his game.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 5 @ 3:57 PM ET
i think its weird that Jets fan consistently bash our #5 defenseman and #12 and #13 forwards. I think more onus needs to be put on our top players.
- TheUltimateJet


*stares at Wheeler*
*stares at Trouba*
*stares at entire coaching staff*
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 5 @ 4:01 PM ET
It is when the guy consistently bad mouths our good players and praises the bad ones (Dano,Postma etc)
- sparky1957


When do I ever badmouth our best players?
Genuinely curious here. If I’m gonna get called out, I wanna know what’s being referred to
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Nov 5 @ 10:26 PM ET
frank you. Wheeler was top 10 in scoring last year you idiot How dare you throw the heart and soul of this team under the bus. Again, go back to your mothers basement and crawl under the covers. You have no idea what you are talking about
- sparky1957


Don't let Rexy get you fired up. He put Connor and Wheeler on the 3rd line of his little "fantasy" lineup. That says enough. Not to mention his love of Trouba who still needs to step up his game another couple levels to prove he is a 7M D man in this league. Most fans who watch these games can see that Wheels and Connor are the two guys you want most on the ice whether we are up 1 goal, or down 1 goal in the final minute of a big game. Wheeler makes everyone around him better, and was huge for the Jets when Schiefs was injured, stepping up to the task of #1C.
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