He won the SJ and Arizona road games...

The pull of him last night was a wakeup move by our emotionsless coach who was ranting and calling a time out at that time also. To get it through to the players that they were playing like poop...

But yeah it's time to throw Pickard under the bus.
- dragonoffrost

he isn't part of the solution.

he didn't make any key saves when they needed him too last night. Had a good game the other night. he is an average at best backup; defend it otherwise all you want.

I completely disagree that the Flyers should give up any quality assets for a goaltender for the short term. If it's cheap to acquire, that's fine. This team really has bigger issues to fix. If Neuvirth can't back up then stick with Pickard, Lyon and or Stolarz to play some games.
- MJL

Did I say quality assets? I'm not asking them to move a top prospect or a 1st or 2nd rounder, however, if you can land a solid NHL goalie for a 3rd or maybe a 4th paired with a B level prospect, they should do it.

Did I say quality assets? I'm not asking them to move a top prospect or a 1st or 2nd rounder, however, if you can land a solid NHL goalie for a 3rd or maybe a 4th paired with a B level prospect, they should do it.
- BiggE

not sure thats gonna get it done unless they just want Crawford gone, using him as an example. though they need to do something.

no issue moving a 2nd and a good prospect. not a top end one of course.

if the blues get a goalie Jake Allen is a guy I look to acquire as classic needs a change of scenery player. I take the risk with him.

Not saying we should, but suddenly Weise is actually tradable

DALE WEISE

Not saying we should, but suddenly Weise is actually tradable
- arichardson22

This is a miracle on par with the parting of the Red Sea. Actually the Red Sea was parted twice. Once by God and once by Ed Van Impe's elbow.

Did I say quality assets? I'm not asking them to move a top prospect or a 1st or 2nd rounder, however, if you can land a solid NHL goalie for a 3rd or maybe a 4th paired with a B level prospect, they should do it.
- BiggE

You said Crawford. Do you honestly think they're going to give Crawford away. I just assumed you understood that it would take a quality asset to acquire Crawford.

not sure thats gonna get it done unless they just want Crawford gone, using him as an example. though they need to do something.

no issue moving a 2nd and a good prospect. not a top end one of course.

if the blues get a goalie Jake Allen is a guy I look to acquire as classic needs a change of scenery player. I take the risk with him.
- rinaldo

Allen is Elliott all over. He's not the answer if Elliott isn't the answer.

Neither could take the net from the other guy when they were both in STL.

This is a miracle on par with the parting of the Red Sea. Actually the Red Sea was parted twice. Once by God and once by Ed Van Impe's elbow.
- BiggE

the flyers need a legit starting goalie. hard to move forward without one. Elliot isn't the answer. he is a perfect backup spot starter.

you can't worry or put a timeframe on Hart (or whoever) as the reason you don't get a better goalie now. when/if hart is ready then you deal with whatever logjam you have at that time; if you even have one.

yes there are other issues which the GM once again failed to address. Goalie is the most important position in sports; one would think Ronald would realize this having been one. He claims this team wants to take the next step but keeps the same slugs in place.
- rinaldo

I think he truly believes Hart will be ready next year and that as the season progresses we will see a leap in Hart's performance at the AHL level. It's why you don't bring him right to the NHL level like so many clamored for during training camp. There is a jump from the CHL to the AHL that he's got to make an adjustment for. Next year it will be the same going AHL to NHL but the net needs to be his if he's in the NHL next year.

Allen is Elliott all over. He's not the answer if Elliott isn't the answer.
- dragonoffrost

From games I watched Allen has been good. Blues are just bad. |I watched a Dman on the blues make a turnover in the neutral zone 3 times within 10 seconds. Flyers need a goalie for at least next 3 years. It gives Philly some breathing room in regards to developing Hart. He isnt just going to be ready overnight. Even when he is ready he should play a season or 2 as a backup before becoming a starter

I think he truly believes Hart will be ready next year and that as the season progresses we will see a leap in Hart's performance at the AHL level. It's why you don't bring him right to the NHL level like so many clamored for during training camp. There is a jump from the CHL to the AHL that he's got to make an adjustment for. Next year it will be the same going AHL to NHL but the net needs to be his if he's in the NHL next year.
- dragonoffrost

If they feel that Hart will be ready for next season to make the jump to the NHL, I wouldn't be surprised to see them re-sign Elliott to a one year deal to share the net. As long as Elliott has a solid year and is willing to sign a one year deal.

From games I watched Allen has been good. Blues are just bad. |I watched a Dman on the blues make a turnover in the neutral zone 3 times within 10 seconds.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Allen should fit in well here then.

I know the majority don’t like the coach but he used the goalie change and timeout last night to good advantage.

I’m sure the GM would love to upgrade the goalie situation. He knows the clock is ticking on his star vets prime time playing years. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them deal for someone, if they can get the right guy. Otherwise I can’t see them winning a playoff round (which was pretty much their goal this year) unless Elliot stays completely healthy and the team D turns things around.

Team sits 9th in the East having played almost 2/3 of their games against the West. The panic is crazy. But it's Philly so it has to be there.

If the schedule split was reversed I'd be a lot more worried. The games against the East is where they need to make their points.

I know the majority don’t like the coach but he used the goalie change and timeout last night to good advantage.

I’m sure the GM would love to upgrade the goalie situation. He knows the clock is ticking on his star vets prime time playing years. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them deal for someone, if they can get the right guy. Otherwise I can’t see them winning a playoff round (which was pretty much their goal this year) unless Elliot stays completely healthy and the team D turns things around.
- Marc D

Like what’s been said before. Nice little comeback last night but this team is pretty consistently hemmed in and turning pucks over when facing the likes of young fast teams like Colorado/Arizona. I don’t see how they’ll be able to sustain any consistency.

Allen is Elliott all over. He's not the answer if Elliott isn't the answer.

Neither could take the net from the other guy when they were both in STL.
- dragonoffrost

thats good to know. thanks for your opinion.

yet they kept Allen over Elliot. interesting.

I know the majority don’t like the coach but he used the goalie change and timeout last night to good advantage.

I’m sure the GM would love to upgrade the goalie situation. He knows the clock is ticking on his star vets prime time playing years. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them deal for someone, if they can get the right guy. Otherwise I can’t see them winning a playoff round (which was pretty much their goal this year) unless Elliot stays completely healthy and the team D turns things around.
- Marc D

TN will claim he finally did what they say he has to do every game. I think if he needs to do that stuff every game then the issues lie further than with the coach. Even if it's every game they fall behind it's too much to say a coach has to do that when they fall behind. What ever happened to the old days where the players would get on each other on the bench to turn things before the coach had to do it?

thats good to know. thanks for your opinion.

yet they kept Allen over Elliot. interesting.
- rinaldo

And they still keep looking to replace him if you want improvement Allen isn't the answer. He's another horse on the goalie carousel.

It’s hard to get too excited about this comeback win knowing all the same issues of their last homestand (and frankly last season) are all still there. It’s past time that Hextall at the very least, shakes up the coaching staff by letting Lappy go. Knoblauch should be on the hot seat also.

And they still keep looking to replace him if you want improvement Allen isn't the answer. He's another horse on the goalie carousel.
- dragonoffrost

I am glad you know he isn't the answer. he is a better option than anything they have now. though I am sure you disagree.

looking to replace him with Bob. not exactly a slight to Allen.

You said Crawford. Do you honestly think they're going to give Crawford away. I just assumed you understood that it would take a quality asset to acquire Crawford.
- MJL

Crawford is 33, makes 6 million on the cap through 2020 and has some significant concussion issues. It's not like he's Dominic Hasek in his prime. You may be overrating what it will take to acquire him. Remember, most teams are probably pretty set in goal so there will be a limited market and only so many of those teams will be able to take on the full cap hit.

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- bmeltzer

Special teams are a mess

thats good to know. thanks for your opinion.

yet they kept Allen over Elliot. interesting.
- rinaldo

He was 5 years younger. Most would have done the same. Doesn't mean it has worked out as well as they wanted it to.

I am glad you know he isn't the answer. he is a better option than anything they have now. though I am sure you disagree.

looking to replace him with Bob. not exactly a slight to Allen.
- rinaldo

Can't you see STL has had the goalie carousel as bad as Philly?

Allen, Hutton, Miller, Elliott, Halak, Bishop, Conklin have all been in their net since 2010...

Hell they even tried a past his prime Marty Brodeur for 7 games.