one has nothing to do what is being discussed. 2 different situation. goalie has one job stop the puck.
- rinaldo

Two short handed breakaways on one power play? It has a lot to do with the goalie not making a save to bail them out last night, I know I'd be back there saying (frank) these guys doing this to me nightly.

Yep that hook wasn't a hook the poor playing goalie hook. It was a wake up the team hook.
- dragonoffrost

it was both imo. those shorty goals were stoppable. not like some great outstanding move.

Two short handed breakaways on one power play? It has a lot to do with the goalie not making a save to bail them out last night.
- dragonoffrost

again it is 2 diff situations. those goals were not strong moves very stoppable. top goalies make the saves you need them to make majority of the time. he got beat badly on those.

again it is 2 diff situations. those goals were not strong moves very stoppable. top goalies make the saves you need them to make majority of the time. he got beat badly on those.
- rinaldo

How many breakaways has Jake hung our goalies out for this year? Eventually you get tired of it. I'm not going to look the numbers up because they aren't as easy as the other stats I got for you. But this team is bleeding short handed goals when Jake is out there. You can't tell me the thought of here we go again doesn't come into a goalies mind as soon as the turnover happens.

Emotionless Hak lit the team up on the bench after that goal. But yeah Pickard is 100% the reason for it. Whatever.

How many breakaways has Jake hung our goalies out for this year? Eventually you get tired of it. I'm not going to look the numbers up because they aren't as easy as the other stats I got for you. But this team is bleeding short handed goals when Jake is out there. You can't tell me the thought of here we go again doesn't come into a goalies mind as soon as the turnover happens.
- dragonoffrost

are you a goalie

are you a goalie
- rinaldo

Yes Pickard should battle, but if Hak is doing a mercy pull. You know the coach who can't and doesn't make adjustments during the game. You know something else is afoot.

Yep that hook wasn't a hook the poor playing goalie hook. It was a wake up the team hook.
- dragonoffrost

that was my take

Elliott is the guy this season, I am fine with that but think he should be limited to 45-50 games. He just looks worn down. And a long term injury would be a bad thing.

I don’t really have a problem with Pickard except that it means that I am not getting to see what Lyon has right now. I do think having Lyon up for a few days made Pickard play better. He’s not dumb, he knows who his competition is.

Neuvy, it is not nice because I’m sure he is a nice guy but he just is too unreliable due to health issues.

As for Lyon, come on...what was all the development for if they don’t give him a fair shot, 20-25 games in a single season.

Stolie could see more starts for the Phantoms if Lyon was up with the Flyers.

Hart, this isn’t his year and that is probably a really really good thing.

Sort it out, Hexy!

Metro is up for grabs. No one has stepped up yet. Caps and Pens will start playing better and Trotz may have the Isles believing they can make the playoffs.

We need to make our move now.

whoops... posted my unedited version before, here is the edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR0Stu3e45M

I'm sure this was mentioned previously, but, DALE FREAKING WEISE!!! Holy sh!t, Good for him. He's playing well and has earned it. Looks like Weal might be odd man out when JVR returns. Move Lauhgton to center with JVR and Simmer. Move Weise down to 4th line wing. Weise, Lehtera, NAK. I like NAK's game.

Lost in the win last night was the most important item......Coach Hakstol showed emotion and it was captured on TV. Bonus point...He used a timely timeout.

BOOM.

Here comes the cup.

I'm sure this was mentioned previously, but, DALE FREAKING WEISE!!! Holy sh!t, Good for him. He's playing well and has earned it. Looks like Weal might be odd man out when JVR returns. Move Lauhgton to center with JVR and Simmer. Move Weise down to 4th line wing. Weise, Lehtera, NAK. I like NAK's game.
- cdearth23

Based on player usage, I'd say that's very unlikely.

Time for a change on the bench. It is so obvious.

I'd try and make a play for Anderson in Ottawa. Signed for one more year so you could have him here to back up Hart or share time depending on what's needed next year. Also i would see if I could get Zack Smith. i know the deal looks bad but he is a solid PK guy. Special teams need a fix and if your not firing a coach then you need to changer personnel.
- J35Bacher

Anderson and Smith are not the answer.

#fakepoints
- Scoob

damn it. I never get this right. I need a chart to determine W vs. FW....

JFC. you do realize that everything isn't black or white, that there are shades or grey, right?? Of course players have to look to themselves to play well, that goes without saying (well to everyone but you it does), but if you don't think how your teammates play doesn't affect your on ice performance than you really have no idea of how a team works.

For example: While I played wing at times, I mostly played D. I was a big guy, very physical with good skills, but I was far from the best skater in the world. However, if I knew that my partner was a strong skater, than I knew that I could take the occasional chance in the O zone because he had the speed to compensate if I got caught. However, if paired with a less effective skater, I'd play a more conservative game.

It's the same with your goalie. If I'm playing in front of a sieve, and lord knows, I'd played in front of a few, I'm going to go out of my way to block as many shots as possible. If I'm playing in front of a good goalie, I'm much less concerned with blocking shots and I'm much more concerned with keeping the porch cleared and making sure he can see the shot that is coming because I know that if he can see it, he's probably going to stop it.

For someone who claims to be the end all/be all of hockey knowledge, you really don't seem to have much of a grasp on how the inter-dynamics of a team really works. Players aren't robots, they have feelings and thoughts and confidence in both their own play, the play of their teammates and in the coaching staff all factor into their on ice performance.
- BiggE

Actually it's you who doesn't understand shades of grey or the inter workings of a team. What you're suggesting is that the team that has played inconsistent hockey all season, is bleeding scoring chances, has given up PP goals in 9 straight games. Decided to take the 2nd period off last night because they'd done enough in the first period and gave up 2 SH goals, is looking over their shoulders thinking the goaltending isn't good enough. I bet Provorov is thanking the goaltenders for bailing his ass out multiple times. That's a shade of grey you apparently can't grasp. I reject this premise from you. If you want to say add a goaltender to improve the team, I understand that. This however is nonsense. If you have a team that is doing that, then you don't have much of a team. Try and grasp that shade of grey.

Anderson and Smith are not the answer.
- LouiseLr

Your probably right.

If there was one move i could make that i actually think would help this team it would be 4 a youngish vet top 4 defensman to take some pressure off Provorov.

I'd call Winnipeg and see what it would cost to get Trouba. I think this team needs another guy that can help settle things down in our own zone and play heavy minutes.

Your probably right.

If there was one move i could make that i actually think would help this team it would be 4 a youngish vet top 4 defensman to take some pressure off Provorov.

I'd call Winnipeg and see what it would cost to get Trouba. I think this team needs another guy that can help settle things down in our own zone and play heavy minutes.
- J35Bacher

I know others have said no way already, but I would look into Trouba. Some kind of trade INVOLVING Voracek and Trouba, not sure what else would be involved to balance it out.

Provorov-Hagg
Ghost-Trouba
Sanheim-Gudas

Trouba could be good for the PK and that gives the team 2 pairs that can handle extreme minutes if needed.

Your probably right.

If there was one move i could make that i actually think would help this team it would be 4 a youngish vet top 4 defensman to take some pressure off Provorov.

I'd call Winnipeg and see what it would cost to get Trouba. I think this team needs another guy that can help settle things down in our own zone and play heavy minutes.
- J35Bacher

Still think the Preds are in the best spot to move a D-man for top 6 help. I really think a Voracek could get you Ekholm or Eliis....or call Carolina and see if it gets Pesce

I know others have said no way already, but I would look into Trouba. Some kind of trade INVOLVING Voracek and Trouba, not sure what else would be involved to balance it out.

Provorov-Hagg
Ghost-Trouba
Sanheim-Gudas

Trouba could be good for the PK and that gives the team 2 pairs that can handle extreme minutes if needed.
- Glak18

Not sure they would want Voracek unless we took back a contract as next year they need to sign Laine, which should be big, and also Connor. If they moved Trouba hypothetically then that could also open them up to re signing Myers so theres another deal. And Wheelers new cap hit takes place.

Not sure they would want Voracek unless we took back a contract as next year they need to sign Laine, which should be big, and also Connor. If they moved Trouba hypothetically then that could also open them up to re signing Myers so theres another deal. And Wheelers new cap hit takes place.
- J35Bacher

Keep in mind Trouba is already making 5.5M and is a RFA next year. Winnipeg is not in the stage to trade him for prospects for 3-5 years from now. Like I said there would be needed balance for the trade, 1 for 1 does not work.

Keep in mind Trouba is already making 5.5M and is a RFA next year. Winnipeg is not in the stage to trade him for prospects for 3-5 years from now. Like I said there would be needed balance for the trade, 1 for 1 does not work.
- Glak18

I was thinking more Simmonds and other pieces.

Winnipeg needs to keep Trouba at all cost if they are serious about a cup run this season. He’s arguably the number 2 dman after Morrissey.

It’s possible he doesn’t wasn’t to re-sign, but they aren’t moving him imo.

I was thinking more Simmonds and other pieces.
- J35Bacher

They might take Simmonds + Sanheim