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gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:38 PM ET
if skunk gets 2 points in the next 2 games, he will be on pace for 70 this season

nylander never got more then 62

- homiedclown


Jack, Sam, Skinner, Risto all on pace for new career years..

Dahlin on pace for 40pts... (I'd call that a very successful year if he can do that) !!!!
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:39 PM ET
How are you watching it????
- gordong


MSG
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 5 @ 9:41 PM ET
he is probably at the game with big mike
- homiedclown



Howling.

Big Mike is at his place whispering sweet nothings to his vaka
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 5 @ 10:01 PM ET
Eichel has 15 points in his last 11 games, on pace for 96; yet it doesn't really feel like he's rolling yet.

That should be a scary proposition for opposing teams.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 5 @ 10:03 PM ET
Eichel has 15 points in his last 11 games, on pace for 96; yet it doesn't really feel like he's rolling yet.

That should be a scary proposition for opposing teams.

- Wetbandit1


Assists don’t count
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:20 PM ET
I’ll take Thompson, a 1st and 2nd over the all-over rated O’Reilly anyday of the week.

The team and locker room is 10x better without him.

St. Louis will feel the same way in maybe a year

- sbroads24


I’ll take Thompson, a 1st and 2nd over the all-over rated O’Reilly anyday of the week.
-That would’ve been a better deal that having to take Sobotka & Berglund,
but still not a “good” deal


The.....locker room is 10x better without him.
-Locker room issues happen bc teams are losing, not the other way around.
Teammates on good teams even but heads,
but Jack & ROR completely denied any supposed issues, even AFTER the trade was made and there was no benefit to do so
You tell me all the time how i “don’t have proof”
Well u don’t have proof about this
And i stayed evidence above that contradicts your speculation
Jack even said that he & ROR heard about these supposed issues & played it up to mess with the media


The team.....is 10x better without him
-yeah, it’s bc ROR is gone... or maybe it’s bc of Skinner, Dahlin & Hutton...
good grief dude
What a terribly ridiculous point to try & make


St. Louis will feel the same way in maybe a year
-O’Reilly has been the best player on StL all year. Pretty sure they’re very, very happy with the trade. No “proof” of that... just common sense

Blaming him for their losing is just dum
About as dumb as saying his subtraction is why we are winning

Just bc u can find a commonality between the events,
doesn’t mean that you’ve found causation

Let the hate go man
You were wrong about O’Reilly
It’s that simple
Just own it & move on

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 5 @ 10:20 PM ET
Eichel has 15 points in his last 11 games, on pace for 96; yet it doesn't really feel like he's rolling yet.

That should be a scary proposition for opposing teams.

- Wetbandit1



I mentioned it the other day.

7 game 16 point type streak happening soon

The goals are bound to come as well

I really think jbotts brings in a first line winger to go with skins and eichel. Probably one of our 1st rounders

Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:23 PM ET
Oilers suck
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 5 @ 10:26 PM ET
I’ll take Thompson, a 1st and 2nd over the all-over rated O’Reilly anyday of the week.
-That would’ve been a better deal that having to take Sobotka & Berglund,
but still not a “good” deal


The.....locker room is 10x better without him.
-Locker room issues happen bc teams are losing, not the other way around.
Teammates on good teams even but heads,
but Jack & ROR completely denied any supposed issues, even AFTER the trade was made and there was no benefit to do so
You tell me all the time how i “don’t have proof”
Well u don’t have proof about this
And i stayed evidence above that contradicts your speculation
Jack even said that he & ROR heard about these supposed issues & played it up to mess with the media


The team.....is 10x better without him
-yeah, it’s bc ROR is gone... or maybe it’s bc of Skinner, Dahlin & Hutton...
good grief dude
What a terribly ridiculous point to try & make


St. Louis will feel the same way in maybe a year
-O’Reilly has been the best player on StL all year. Pretty sure they’re very, very happy with the trade. No “proof” of that... just common sense

Blaming him for their losing is just dum
About as dumb as saying his subtraction is why we are winning

Just bc u can find a commonality between the events,
doesn’t mean that you’ve found causation

Let the hate go man
You were wrong about O’Reilly
It’s that simple
Just own it & move on

- jdfitz77



I still can't understand why you take them at their word?

Eichel and ror. People lie.

It benefits both guys to not be "locker room problems" moving forward in their careers.

Why wouldn't they deny it?

2 alfa males both wanting to be captain?
Different personalities
Mix in a 31st place finish

I think your a bit gullible. No offense.
They despise each other. All the insiders repeatedly mentioned it here.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Dec 5 @ 10:35 PM ET
I’ll take Thompson, a 1st and 2nd over the all-over rated O’Reilly anyday of the week.
-That would’ve been a better deal that having to take Sobotka & Berglund,
but still not a “good” deal


The.....locker room is 10x better without him.
-Locker room issues happen bc teams are losing, not the other way around.
Teammates on good teams even but heads,
but Jack & ROR completely denied any supposed issues, even AFTER the trade was made and there was no benefit to do so
You tell me all the time how i “don’t have proof”
Well u don’t have proof about this
And i stayed evidence above that contradicts your speculation
Jack even said that he & ROR heard about these supposed issues & played it up to mess with the media


The team.....is 10x better without him
-yeah, it’s bc ROR is gone... or maybe it’s bc of Skinner, Dahlin & Hutton...
good grief dude
What a terribly ridiculous point to try & make


St. Louis will feel the same way in maybe a year
-O’Reilly has been the best player on StL all year. Pretty sure they’re very, very happy with the trade. No “proof” of that... just common sense

Blaming him for their losing is just dum
About as dumb as saying his subtraction is why we are winning

Just bc u can find a commonality between the events,
doesn’t mean that you’ve found causation

Let the hate go man
You were wrong about O’Reilly
It’s that simple
Just own it & move on

- jdfitz77


Buddy I know first hand that locker room was divided on the vets who supported ROR for captaincy and the ones who supported Eichel. Eichel threw shade at ROR saying the locker room culture is so much better and that he didn’t lose his love of the game. Give it a rest. Sobotka can be moved in the offseason if not his contract is up after next season. It’s berglund that might pose a problem. Yea ROR has been playing great with Tarasenko but he is also making $7.5M a year he better be freaking producing. When he becomes their Okposo in a year and a half please post again about how much we need him and his heavy price tag when it comes time to pay Dahlin.
joevthree
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.27.2011

Dec 5 @ 10:40 PM ET
Eichel has 15 points in his last 11 games, on pace for 96; yet it doesn't really feel like he's rolling yet.

That should be a scary proposition for opposing teams.

- Wetbandit1

And I get roasted, and I'm sure I'll continue to, because I STILL would take Jack over McJesus. We've had a few years to watch them both, but I think many here are still caught up in all the McJesus hype and highlights, and haven't actually watched him play much. He is terrible defensively, and never checked anyone in his life. Being an offensive phenom isn't the only thing that makes a great player.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:44 PM ET
I still can't understand why you take them at their word?

Eichel and ror. People lie.

It benefits both guys to not be "locker room problems" moving forward in their careers.

Why wouldn't they deny it?

2 alfa males both wanting to be captain?
Different personalities
Mix in a 31st place finish

I think your a bit gullible. No offense.
They despise each other. All the insiders repeatedly mentioned it here.

- Boss34


Ppl argue in the locker room when the team is doing poorly

There was no benefit to them “lying” even AFTER O’Reilly was traded
If he was still here, it would’ve made sense
But neither had anything to gain

And it’s a pretty far reach imo to think that Jack made up that elaborate story about them clowning the media when they heard ppl saying there was actually issues between them

There’s much more there to think they’re telling the truth
Again...
Telling lies were of no benefit to either AFTER O’Reilly was traded
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 5 @ 10:45 PM ET
And I get roasted, and I'm sure I'll continue to, because I STILL would take Jack over McJesus. We've had a few years to watch them both, but I think many here are still caught up in all the McJesus hype and highlights, and haven't actually watched him play much. He is terrible defensively, and never checked anyone in his life. Being an offensive phenom isn't the only thing that makes a great player.
- joevthree



You made some pretty good points the other day.

I really think winning and losing is what will separate these eichel and McDavid

Hopefully we continue to win

If Seattle was allowed to claim 1 player in the nhl.

It would be McDavid

Eichel would be in the top 5.

Kuchorov
MacKinnon
Matthews

Off the top off my head
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:46 PM ET
Buddy I know first hand that locker room was divided on the vets who supported ROR for captaincy and the ones who supported Eichel. Eichel threw shade at ROR saying the locker room culture is so much better and that he didn’t lose his love of the game. Give it a rest. Sobotka can be moved in the offseason if not his contract is up after next season. It’s berglund that might pose a problem. Yea ROR has been playing great with Tarasenko but he is also making $7.5M a year he better be freaking producing. When he becomes their Okposo in a year and a half please post again about how much we need him and his heavy price tag when it comes time to pay Dahlin.
- Pegullaville



So you were in the locker room to witness these things?
The players actually told you how they felt?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:48 PM ET
And I get roasted, and I'm sure I'll continue to, because I STILL would take Jack over McJesus. We've had a few years to watch them both, but I think many here are still caught up in all the McJesus hype and highlights, and haven't actually watched him play much. He is terrible defensively, and never checked anyone in his life. Being an offensive phenom isn't the only thing that makes a great player.
- joevthree


You’re not as wrong as most people think.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 5 @ 10:49 PM ET
Ppl argue in the locker room when the team is doing poorly

There was no benefit to them “lying” even AFTER O’Reilly was traded
If he was still here, it would’ve made sense
But neither had anything to gain

And it’s a pretty far reach imo to think that Jack made up that elaborate story about them clowning the media when they heard ppl saying there was actually issues between them

There’s much more there to think they’re telling the truth
Again...
Telling lies were of no benefit to either AFTER O’Reilly was traded

- jdfitz77


Ok

ONE MORE TIME:

IT BENEFITS BOTH GUYS TO NOT LOOK LIKE LOCKERROOM PROBLEMS.

WHO WANTS THAT ON THEIR REPUTATION?

THAT IS THE BENEFIT.


WHY WOULD EITHER GUY JUST ADMIT IT?
HOW DOES THAT BENEFIT THEM?


sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 5 @ 10:49 PM ET
I’ll take Thompson, a 1st and 2nd over the all-over rated O’Reilly anyday of the week.
-That would’ve been a better deal that having to take Sobotka & Berglund,
but still not a “good” deal


The.....locker room is 10x better without him.
-Locker room issues happen bc teams are losing, not the other way around.
Teammates on good teams even but heads,
but Jack & ROR completely denied any supposed issues, even AFTER the trade was made and there was no benefit to do so
You tell me all the time how i “don’t have proof”
Well u don’t have proof about this
And i stayed evidence above that contradicts your speculation
Jack even said that he & ROR heard about these supposed issues & played it up to mess with the media


The team.....is 10x better without him
-yeah, it’s bc ROR is gone... or maybe it’s bc of Skinner, Dahlin & Hutton...
good grief dude
What a terribly ridiculous point to try & make


St. Louis will feel the same way in maybe a year
-O’Reilly has been the best player on StL all year. Pretty sure they’re very, very happy with the trade. No “proof” of that... just common sense

Blaming him for their losing is just dum
About as dumb as saying his subtraction is why we are winning

Just bc u can find a commonality between the events,
doesn’t mean that you’ve found causation

Let the hate go man
You were wrong about O’Reilly
It’s that simple
Just own it & move on

- jdfitz77

O’Reilly has been really good to start.

He was incredible his first 30-40 games as a Sabre too.

He’s already coming back to earth in terms of production
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 5 @ 10:50 PM ET
You’re not as wrong as most people think.
- Der Kaiser



I agree with this post.

Eichel is definitely not getting overpaid at 20% less

12.5 to 10 million right?
joevthree
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.27.2011

Dec 5 @ 10:52 PM ET
You made some pretty good points the other day.

I really think winning and losing is what will separate these eichel and McDavid

Hopefully we continue to win

If Seattle was allowed to claim 1 player in the nhl.

It would be McDavid

Eichel would be in the top 5.

Kuchorov
MacKinnon
Matthews

Off the top off my head

- Boss34


Someone mentioned every team in the league would trade their best player for McDavid. I really don't think Buffalo or Toronto would tho. Maybe for the right to draft McJesus at the draft, but not now after a few years with their teams. I also think every team in the league would trade their best player for Eichel or Matthews...except Edmonton.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:53 PM ET
Ok

ONE MORE TIME:

IT BENEFITS BOTH GUYS TO NOT LOOK LIKE LOCKERROOM PROBLEMS.

WHO WANTS THAT ON THEIR REPUTATION?

THAT IS THE BENEFIT.


WHY WOULD EITHER GUY JUST ADMIT IT?
HOW DOES THAT BENEFIT THEM?

- Boss34


They could’ve simply just said something like,
“We’re cool. It was no big deal.”

But Jack just makes up that elaborate story about clowning the media?
No way
That’s way too over the top

U could make a case that ROR couldn’t afford another black mark on his resume
But it was JACK who told the story
He’s signed for 10years & is our golden boy
His Rep was more than ok
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 5 @ 10:55 PM ET
I agree with this post.

Eichel is definitely not getting overpaid at 20% less

12.5 to 10 million right?

- Boss34


McD was a legend before he was even 15. Canadians view everything he does in the context of the legend.

The stats are telling a story that isn’t as brilliant as the legend.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 5 @ 10:59 PM ET
O’Reilly has been really good to start.

He was incredible his first 30-40 games as a Sabre too.

He’s already coming back to earth in terms of production

- sbroads24



Ror was a pretty good hockey player (on the ice) here.
Not "fine" or "decent". Dude played hard most nights.

Anyone that doesn't think he has some kind of flaws in the lockerroom is NEVER going to change their mind.

If st. Louis was in first place, everyone would be all over you. The fact that they are terrible completely supports your arguement.

Judgement:

Broads.

We are at the top of the nhl
Ror is at the bottom.

Funny part is st. Louis mortgaged the future with picks to be better now. But, the Sabres are better and now have a juicy pick to look forward too in the 2020 draft. Assuming they keep this years top 10 pick.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 11:00 PM ET
O’Reilly has been really good to start.

He was incredible his first 30-40 games as a Sabre too.

He’s already coming back to earth in terms of production

- sbroads24


I don’t expect him to continue to be over a ppg player
But it’s pretty clear that he can put up points when he isn’t used so heavily defensively

There are some points that are fair about trading him, but...

-StL is not losing bc he’s there
-we aren’t winning bc he’s gone
-the trade was not great value for him,
and we won’t know for a few years of Thompson or the 1st turn into legit enough players that we’d “win” the trade
-a good 2C would obviously be a great benefit to us right now

Idk how anyone can seriously argue any of that?

And i only brought it up AFTER most ppl left (so it wouldn’t blow up into a huge thing again), and bc Homie was talking about how we could use a 2C
joevthree
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.27.2011

Dec 5 @ 11:01 PM ET
McD was a legend before he was even 15. Canadians view everything he does in the context of the legend.

The stats are telling a story that isn’t as brilliant as the legend.

- Der Kaiser

This...and I didn't even consider the salary part, thanks boss.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Dec 5 @ 11:02 PM ET
Ror was a pretty good hockey player (on the ice) here.
Not "fine" or "decent". Dude played hard most nights.

Anyone that doesn't think he has some kind of flaws in the lockerroom is NEVER going to change their mind.

If st. Louis was in first place, everyone would be all over you. The fact that they are terrible completely supports your arguement.

Judgement:

Broads.

We are at the top of the nhl
Ror is at the bottom.

Funny part is st. Louis mortgaged the future with picks to be better now. But, the Sabres are better and now have a juicy pick to look forward too in the 2020 draft. Assuming they keep this years top 10 pick.

- Boss34


Commonality does NOT equal causation
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