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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 6 @ 1:10 PM ET
Sprong sucks. I’d probably score a goal if I got that many free passes in the nhl.
- Grinder47

Yeah okay bud.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Dec 6 @ 1:14 PM ET
Sprong sucks. I’d probably score a goal if I got that many free passes in the nhl.
- Grinder47


It's simply impossible you are this dumb.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 6 @ 1:44 PM ET
We have better RW's on our top 2 lines

Thats why.....
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 6 @ 1:51 PM ET
Yeah okay bud.
- Feds91Stammer



So 43 games is a big enough sample size for you in this case?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 6 @ 1:52 PM ET
Interesting article about the trade....

https://thehockeywriters....s-sprong-trade-necessary/
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 6 @ 2:03 PM ET
I think Sully sucks with Rust, Simon, ZAR, Cullen, Sheahan and Cullen.


Why hastns Rust been benched for sucking this year?
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Dec 6 @ 2:05 PM ET
Interesting article about the trade....

https://thehockeywriters....s-sprong-trade-necessary/

- MattStrat


"Sullivan often preaches accountability and playing the right way, but Sprong was often the only one held accountable, even if other players were to blame."

" But writing Sprong off because of half a season worth of games between the ages of 18 and 21 is irresponsible."

Pretty spot on there.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 6 @ 2:08 PM ET
So 43 games is a big enough sample size for you in this case?
- MattStrat

What are you babbling on about now?
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Dec 6 @ 2:09 PM ET
I think Sully sucks with Rust, Simon, ZAR, Cullen, Sheahan and Cullen.


Why hastns Rust been benched for sucking this year?

- sammy87



Cause he's Sully's guy. He's back on the 1st line too. I hope Sprong does well in Anaheim just so Sully can gain some humility. He won 2 cups and thunks he is infallible right now.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Dec 6 @ 2:09 PM ET
Posted earlier, but Sprong was dangerous all night. Kid can absolutely fire the puck and his speed and ability to shoot on net accurately and pick his spots is sorely needed on Ducks.
As for this narrative about his D .... that's what Gibson/Miller are for .. we got plenty of D.. What we didn't have much of before he got here was a kid that can skate like that and finish with a hammer of a shot.

- dozerD10


I am not going to speak for others but safe to say most people on here are rooting for him. I am just happy that he was traded out west, he would have just killed the Pens if he would have stayed in the east.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 6 @ 2:13 PM ET
Cause he's Sully's guy. He's back on the 1st line too. I hope Sprong does well in Anaheim just so Sully can gain some humility. He won 2 cups and thunks he is infallible right now.
- Thorny87


Yup as was MM and Id take MAF any day the week

I'm putting money on Sully not finishing the season.

That said I cant imagine JR is rogue in his acquisitions. Sully would have to have some input so maybe he had some to do with the JJ signing? Sprong being shipped? Cullen? etc....
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 6 @ 2:18 PM ET
What are you babbling on about now?
- Feds91Stammer



hahah thats babbling?

I could of swore its you that brings up sample sizes and have used them to enforce your narratives.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 6 @ 2:19 PM ET
hahah thats babbling?

I could of swore its you that brings up sample sizes and have used them to enforce your narratives.

- MattStrat

I was literally replying to grinder talking about scoring in the NHL. What does that have to do with sample sizes?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 6 @ 2:21 PM ET
I was literally replying to grinder talking about scoring in the NHL. What does that have to do with sample sizes?
- Feds91Stammer



He also said Sprong sucks.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 6 @ 2:25 PM ET
He also said Sprong sucks.
- MattStrat

And do you honestly think I believe that?
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 6 @ 2:31 PM ET
Problem with Sprong is that when he isn't scoring he isn't doing anything else

Only other guy who does that is Kessel, Sully hates the way he plays too

Difference? Kessel is over a PPG player, Sprong isn't....
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Dec 6 @ 2:36 PM ET
Problem with Sprong is that when he isn't scoring he isn't doing anything else

Only other guy who does that is Kessel, Sully hates the way he plays too

Difference? Kessel is over a PPG player, Sprong isn't....

- RoloTahmasee


But when does the reverse start to carry some weight? Guys who are considered good defensively but can't score to save their lives.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 6 @ 2:38 PM ET
But when does the reverse start to carry some weight? Guys who are considered good defensively but can't score to save their lives.
- Thorny87

Its an old boys club issue to me. I see it on almost every team. Young skilled guys are held more accountable then older vets. Makes no sense.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 6 @ 2:40 PM ET
Problem with Sprong is that when he isn't scoring he isn't doing anything else

Only other guy who does that is Kessel, Sully hates the way he plays too

Difference? Kessel is over a PPG player, Sprong isn't....

- RoloTahmasee


It's not like Malkin is a Selke candidate either.....You have elite talent up front...coach and build to score goals not worry about D.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:07 PM ET
Kessel deal I could see making some sense:

Kessel is willing to go to MIN in this scenario

Kessel + Brassard

for

Staal + Granlund

add a piece here or there to make it even

- Feds91Stammer

I don’t understand. You spelled Maatta wrong

Seriously though. I don’t think MN would do this
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 6 @ 3:25 PM ET
But when does the reverse start to carry some weight? Guys who are considered good defensively but can't score to save their lives.
- Thorny87


No ones saying replace Sprong with Tanner Glass

Jake, Phil, Horny are all definitely better than Sprong

Pearson and Rust can score (although Rust isn't right now), but can skate, backcheck, PK and play defense, and easily move up and down the lineup - So, that's 5 out of the top 6 winger spots gone right there and I didn't even get into who plays RW or LW or who can play both

That leaves Sprong competing for the last remaining spot in the Top 9. The #6 winger on the team and we still have Simon and ZAR, and the possibility of another GMJR trade elsewhere to bring in another winger

He just wasn't as valuable as people want to make him out to be. He needed to be Jake 2.0 at a low cap hit - He isn't and probably wasn't gonna be, ever
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 6 @ 4:12 PM ET
No ones saying replace Sprong with Tanner Glass

Jake, Phil, Horny are all definitely better than Sprong

Pearson and Rust can score (although Rust isn't right now), but can skate, backcheck, PK and play defense, and easily move up and down the lineup - So, that's 5 out of the top 6 winger spots gone right there and I didn't even get into who plays RW or LW or who can play both

That leaves Sprong competing for the last remaining spot in the Top 9. The #6 winger on the team and we still have Simon and ZAR, and the possibility of another GMJR trade elsewhere to bring in another winger

He just wasn't as valuable as people want to make him out to be. He needed to be Jake 2.0 at a low cap hit - He isn't and probably wasn't gonna be, ever

- RoloTahmasee


I watched that Anaheim game last night and Sprong looked like a different player. He didn't have any poor defensive lapses....actually to the contrary. He was tough on the boards and backchecked pretty well. I think ZAR kind of stinks and Simon isn't very far in front of him.

I don't know man.... Sullivan could come out of this looking like a dope if Sprong starts scoring.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Dec 6 @ 4:12 PM ET
No ones saying replace Sprong with Tanner Glass

Jake, Phil, Horny are all definitely better than Sprong

Pearson and Rust can score (although Rust isn't right now), but can skate, backcheck, PK and play defense, and easily move up and down the lineup - So, that's 5 out of the top 6 winger spots gone right there and I didn't even get into who plays RW or LW or who can play both

That leaves Sprong competing for the last remaining spot in the Top 9. The #6 winger on the team and we still have Simon and ZAR, and the possibility of another GMJR trade elsewhere to bring in another winger

He just wasn't as valuable as people want to make him out to be. He needed to be Jake 2.0 at a low cap hit - He isn't and probably wasn't gonna be, ever

- RoloTahmasee



I understand what you're saying. I don't think he is as good as some people believe him to be.

Still, Rust has had so many chances to "Get going" that weren't afforded to Sprong. I honestly believe Sully had made his mind up about him day 1.

I do think he was good enough to play for this team and could've gotten a better return (if Sully still didn't like him) if he was allowed an opportunity to get going. Playing with Sid and Geno in the pre season is different that when they actually try.

If he continues to play well for Anaheim maybe a bit more fault will fall on Sully and the organization for his mishandling. The way this organization mortgages the future to win now, they cannot continue to mis-handle top picks they retain.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Dec 6 @ 6:30 PM ET
I look forward to seeing more of Pettersson. He will continue to be a cheap younger option for our 2nd/3rd pairing D. He may even continue to develop into more. I felt as though he has shown some good things the previous game by staying back and not being as aggressive when we have the puck (this has gotten our D into trouble). I think he could develop into a good option. We have only seen one game from him. Our coaches and JR seem excited about him so that is definitely a positive sign.
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Dec 6 @ 6:33 PM ET
To all NHL teams,

Will you guys please stop giving good players to the Ducks for (next to) nothing? Thanks.

Respectfully,
LA Kings Fans
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