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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 6 @ 1:23 PM ET
Jake Gardiner is funny, he's considered horrific defensively by fans yet his advanced stats say he's elite. LOL.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Dec 6 @ 1:30 PM ET
Jake Gardiner is funny, he's considered horrific defensively by fans yet his advanced stats say he's elite. LOL.
- RogerRoeper


I don't think any leaf fans can honestly say that Gardiner's D is elite - the eye test is truly overpowering.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Dec 6 @ 1:32 PM ET
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Dec 6 @ 1:40 PM ET
I don't think any leaf fans can honestly say that Gardiner's D is elite - the eye test is truly overpowering.
- Cooshie


There was a time when Leaf fans would say Komisarek was elite.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Dec 6 @ 1:42 PM ET
There was a time when Leaf fans would say Komisarek was elite.
- Alexzanki


Could you blame em? Blueline has been a wreck for 30 years.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Dec 6 @ 1:47 PM ET
There was a time when Leaf fans would say Komisarek was elite.
- Alexzanki


I highly doubt any leaf fan would have said Komisarek was "elite". Probably thought he was better than the dog poop he ended up being....but never "elite".
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Dec 6 @ 1:50 PM ET
The leafs trade proposals reek a little too much of the deal we did for stempniak. In no way do I want to see nylander become the next Steen. ..hes already better than steen was offensively...nor do i want to see paryako become the next whipping boy or next Adam Larson.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Dec 6 @ 1:51 PM ET
Could you blame em? Blueline has been a wreck for 30 years.
- joel878

Kaberle markov yuskevich berard was a solid d if you ask me.

All derailed by hossa.
SammyK
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 12.06.2018

Dec 6 @ 1:51 PM ET
What about Parayko for Panarin? Jackets could turn around and flip Werenski for Nylander. Others may have to be added to make up for salary but makes sense.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Dec 6 @ 1:54 PM ET
The leafs trade proposals reek a little too much of the deal we did for stempniak. In no way do I want to see nylander become the next Steen. ..nor do i want to see paryako become the next whipping boy or next Adam Larson.
- mykokes



He is already better than Steen ever was....if he becomes Steen, that will be a big let down.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Dec 6 @ 1:55 PM ET
He is already better than Steen ever was....if he becomes Steen, that will be a big let down.
- Cooshie

Offensively. ..my mistake...but you get where I'm going with this. Other fans posters told us when that deal went down that we raped the blues. Oh how wrong they were.
Dr. Leaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oakville, ON
Joined: 07.01.2018

Dec 6 @ 1:58 PM ET
I say NO. Not a chance.
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Dec 6 @ 1:59 PM ET
FlyerBuzz. Every goddamn day

It’s getting absurd
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 2:00 PM ET
FlyerBuzz. Every goddamn day

It’s getting absurd

- BringNYIhome


Tell your team to talk to Ek more, maybe you can replace the "Fire Snow" billboards with "Leak more rooomers"
Dr. Leaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oakville, ON
Joined: 07.01.2018

Dec 6 @ 2:00 PM ET
I don't think any leaf fans can honestly say that Gardiner's D is elite - the eye test is truly overpowering.
- Cooshie


This leaf fan believes the analytics.
His bonehead plays stand out to the eye and he just looks like a dear caught in headlights to look at. He makes many small subtle good defensive plays. Other leaf D make many bad defensive plays but as they aren’t huge WTF moments they don’t get the hate.
Gards is a very good D man.
Dr. Leaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oakville, ON
Joined: 07.01.2018

Dec 6 @ 2:01 PM ET
I highly doubt any leaf fan would have said Komisarek was "elite". Probably thought he was better than the dog poop he ended up being....but never "elite".
- Cooshie

No. He was complete crap.
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Dec 6 @ 2:01 PM ET
What about Parayko for Panarin? Jackets could turn around and flip Werenski for Nylander. Others may have to be added to make up for salary but makes sense.
- SammyK


Flip Werenski? Why would Columbus trade this kid. He’s a stud. Use your head
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 6 @ 2:02 PM ET
There was a time when Leaf fans would say Komisarek was elite.
- Alexzanki

Sadly, that time was three years before the Leafs signed him.
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Dec 6 @ 2:03 PM ET
Tell your team to talk to Ek more, maybe you can replace the "Fire Snow" billboards with "Leak more rooomers"
- Glak18


Snow got fired. Pretty sure those billboards are gone
Buggy166
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.01.2007

Dec 6 @ 2:05 PM ET
Only way Leafs might deal for a d-man is by giving up a top tier prospect and a high pick, if the so called player is a top 3 defenseman, not less. Already got plugs on the team.

Dont see Toronto moving roster players in the deal since they're thin on D as it is.
SammyK
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 12.06.2018

Dec 6 @ 2:05 PM ET
Jacket fans are losing faith in his defense. He's due $ on a bridge deal next year so he has value. If we could get a better player in Parayko and Nylander locked up, Jackets would be way better off. Now, would the Leafs be willing?
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Dec 6 @ 2:08 PM ET
Why does everyone want to throw Gardner in, Zeitsev is the guy I'd be shipping out.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Dec 6 @ 2:10 PM ET
Kaberle markov yuskevich berard was a solid d if you ask me.

All derailed by hossa.

- mykokes


Ah, Yuskevich, back when we had a defensemen that hit guys.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Dec 6 @ 2:12 PM ET
Why does everyone want to throw Gardner in, Zeitsev is the guy I'd be shipping out.
- aminnes


Because Gardiner is due to cash in on the open market, and the leafs are deep at LHD. Kind of a no brainer.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Dec 6 @ 2:22 PM ET
Because Gardiner is due to cash in on the open market, and the leafs are deep at LHD. Kind of a no brainer.
- joel878


Fair enough, but I like keeping Gardner for this years run, and rolling a Reilly, Parayko top unit. Next year look at what they got in Holl, Liligren. Zeitsev is not a solution to any problem, basically a warm body that's locked until he's 33 years old, and it get's his 4+ off the books, rather than trading Gards and still having to pay Zeitsev for the next 6 years. The centrepiece of any trade fro Parayko is going to be scoring help, Zeitsev is a throw in for their d.
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