I haven't a clue. I've never been able to understand Gagner.
- Wildschwein

True... plus we have the asian Sam Gagner in Yamamoto

True... plus we have the asian Sam Gagner in Yamamoto
- Reveen.

Also true.

Also true.
- Wildschwein

I hope our Flames brethren appreciate my supportive post in their thread.

I hope our Flames brethren appreciate my supportive post in their thread.
- Reveen.

What a glorious post it is.

I hope our Flames brethren appreciate my supportive post in their thread.
- Reveen.

Well I certainly did.

Lucic will only have a limited NMC by the time the Seattle team selects. Maybe we can convince him to waive, and send Seattle pick to select him.

If Vancouver offered Gagner for Russell would you do it ?
- Reveen.

I don't know if I would. For all his flaws, Russell can defend at a reasonable rate and actually provides NHL-level ability. I'm in the market for acquiring and retaining players of actual NHL ability and Gagner is not that. I'd sooner save said cap by buying out Sekera's contract.

I don't know if I would. For all his flaws, Russell can defend at a reasonable rate and actually provides NHL-level ability. I'm in the market for acquiring and retaining players of actual NHL ability and Gagner is not that. I'd sooner save said cap by buying out Sekera's contract.
- MaximumBone

Said cap space breaks down as follows:

Projected 12.7mil in cap space as of now
Buyout Sekera (+3mil for 2 yrs, -1.5mil for next 2 yrs)
Kassian trade (+1.9mil out)
Cap increase (+3.5mil assuming the high end)

Total cap space of 21.1mil

Resign Rieder (3mil), Puljujarvi (2mil), Khaira (1.3mil) and Russell (700k)
Resign Gravel (950k) and maybe Wideman (900k)
Koskinen or Talbot or equivalent (4mil by 2/3)

12.3mil (Russell being buried) of the 21.1mil spent

What a glorious post it is.


- EdmHockeyMan

Well I certainly did.
- Wildschwein

You're a pig of discernible tastes

Said cap space breaks down as follows:

Projected 12.7mil in cap space as of now
Buyout Sekera (+3mil for 2 yrs, -1.5mil for next 2 yrs)
Kassian trade (+1.9mil out)
Cap increase (+3.5mil assuming the high end)

Total cap space of 21.1mil

Resign Rieder (3mil), Puljujarvi (2mil), Khaira (1.3mil) and Russell (700k)
Resign Gravel (950k) and maybe Wideman (900k)
Koskinen or Talbot or equivalent (4mil by 2/3)

12.3mil (Russell being buried) of the 21.1mil spent
- MaximumBone

Now, because I enjoy doing this, for how to spend the remaining 8.8mil in UFA and trades:

Sooner than later, 2019 1st+Spooner for Stone and conditional 2020 2nd (only if he doesn't resign) then resign him for 8.8x8 (+5.7mil)

Nurse for either Nutivaara (-0.5mil) or- the more likely available- Savard (+1.05mil)

Nuge and Bear for Schwartz, Blais and a 2019 3rd (-0.65mil)

Puljujarvi for Jost (-1mil)

A backup (1.2mil)

Net cap expenditure = 6.885mil leaving 1.915mil in cap space for the PTO, bonus cushions and in-season trades.

Now, because I enjoy doing this, for how to spend the remaining 8.8mil in UFA and trades:

Sooner than later, 2019 1st+Spooner for Stone and conditional 2020 2nd (only if he doesn't resign) then resign him for 8x7 (+4.9mil)

Nurse for either Nutivaara (-0.5mil) or- the more likely available- Savard (+1.05mil)

Nuge and Bear for Schwartz, Blais and a 2019 3rd (-0.65mil)

Puljujarvi for Jost (-1mil)

A backup (1.2mil)

Net cap expenditure = 6.085mil leaving 2.715mil in cap space for the PTO, bonus cushions and in-season trades.
- MaximumBone

In summation:

Khaira- McDavid- Stone
Schwartz- Draisaitl- Rieder
Benson- Jost- Zykov
Caggiula- Blais- PTO (offensive look)
Lucic- Brodziak- same PTO (defensive look)

Klefbom- Larsson
Russell- Savard
Gravel- Benning
Wideman

One of Koskinen, Talbot or other
Backup

Now, because I enjoy doing this, for how to spend the remaining 8.8mil in UFA and trades:

Sooner than later, 2019 1st+Spooner for Stone and conditional 2020 2nd (only if he doesn't resign) then resign him for 8.8x8 (+5.7mil)

Nurse for either Nutivaara (-0.5mil) or- the more likely available- Savard (+1.05mil)

Nuge and Bear for Schwartz, Blais and a 2019 3rd (-0.65mil)

Puljujarvi for Jost (-1mil)

A backup (1.2mil)

Net cap expenditure = 6.885mil leaving 1.915mil in cap space for the PTO, bonus cushions and in-season trades.
- MaximumBone

Fatmarsh is going to come across the table and strangle you

Fatmarsh is going to come across the table and strangle you
- Reveen.

He can't get out of his seat, let alone reach across a whole table.

He can't get out of his seat, let alone reach across a whole table.
- MaximumBone

In summation:

Khaira- McDavid- Stone
Schwartz- Draisaitl- Rieder
Benson- Jost- Zykov
Caggiula- Blais- PTO (offensive look)
Lucic- Brodziak- same PTO (defensive look)

Klefbom- Larsson
Russell- Savard
Gravel- Benning
Wideman

One of Koskinen, Talbot or other
Backup
- MaximumBone

That’s certainly putting a lot of faith into Khaira but it could certainly work out....couldn’t help but notice that you had 5 lines listed so is this like a dump Lucic and sit Brodziak deal or just play whoever does better kind of deal?

That’s certainly putting a lot of faith into Khaira but it could certainly work out....couldn’t help but notice that you had 5 lines listed so is this like a dump Lucic and sit Brodziak deal or just play whoever does better kind of deal?
- RatedR80

I don't know that it is really an improvement

I don't know that it is really an improvement
- Reveen.

I don’t know if Khaira would workout on the top line but Stone would allow the team to finally put Drai back on his own line and Schwartz is an upgrade over Chiasson providing he can remain healthy....another possibility is to see if the Flyers are gonna be in sell mode....if so that’s another team worth talking to

I don’t know if Khaira would workout on the top line but Stone would allow the team to finally put Drai back on his own line and Schwartz is an upgrade over Chiasson providing he can remain healthy....another possibility is to see if the Flyers are gonna be in sell mode....if so that’s another team worth talking to
- RatedR80

That and Blais / Benson.... too many question marks

That’s certainly putting a lot of faith into Khaira but it could certainly work out....couldn’t help but notice that you had 5 lines listed so is this like a dump Lucic and sit Brodziak deal or just play whoever does better kind of deal?
- RatedR80

Khaira is more or less a placeholder for anyone else who steps up. The bottom two lines are kinda more or less a training camp battle to see who takes the spot. If an offensive line can find chemistry and make it work then give em a shot, if not, run the Lucic-Brodziak-_____

I haven't a clue. I've never been able to understand Gagner.
- Wildschwein

Gagner and Kassian in the same room.... would be interesting

Khaira is more or less a placeholder for anyone else who steps up. The bottom two lines are kinda more or less a training camp battle to see who takes the spot. If an offensive line can find chemistry and make it work then give em a shot, if not, run the Lucic-Brodziak-_____
- MaximumBone

I wouldn't mind some under the radar players who wont cost 8 million a year.

Gagner and Kassian in the same room.... would be interesting
- oilpatch

true

I don't know that it is really an improvement
- Reveen.

Savard > Nurse
Schwartz > Nuge
Stone > Anyone but McDavid
The rest > what we gave up

true
- Reveen.

Might have stick Lucic between them, Ithink Gagner would lay a beating on Kass