Hate to rain on your parade but that's completely false, I believe the Sabres have the best prospect pool in the league because of those picks and with their future picks they used a 2019 2nd, two 3rds 2019/20 (Cliff Pu) and a 2020 6th to acquire a top line player to play with Eichel and he's got 20 goals already this year in 29 games.

Plus they still have two or three first round picks for 2019! Their own and they own both St. Louis's and San Jose's.

Bottom line is they've done more than "absolutely nothing" with their many picks.

http://www.sportingnews.c...tn8fb6mqnial16bxvtds5dacu

"2018 The Athletic - In terms of tiers, it goes Buffalo, then a steep drop to Vancouver in its own tier, St. Louis and Carolina are in a tier, followed by a small drop after the Islanders and another minor drop after Chicago."

https://lastwordonhockey....prospect-rankings-top-10/

http://www.espn.com/nhl/i...top-ranked-buffalo-sabres
- LeftCoaster

Buffalo have drafted a first and 2 seconds

Brock has missed a lot of good chances lately. He needs to bury them . You can see the difference when you have two lines clicking in a game. Good win ,sh1tty D.

Buffalo have drafted a first and 2 seconds
- VANTEL

Thanks tips, how does that fit the conversation?

Brock has missed a lot of good chances lately. He needs to bury them . You can see the difference when you have two lines clicking in a game. Good win ,sh1tty D.
- VANTEL

I saw the highlights, great toe save on Boeser by Rinne. That wiener.

Hate to rain on your parade but that's completely false, I believe the Sabres have the best prospect pool in the league because of those picks and with their future picks they used a 2019 2nd, two 3rds 2019/20 (Cliff Pu) and a 2020 6th to acquire a top line player to play with Eichel and he's got 20 goals already this year in 29 games.

Plus they still have two or three first round picks for 2019! Their own and they own both St. Louis's and San Jose's.

Bottom line is they've done more than "absolutely nothing" with their many picks.

http://www.sportingnews.c...tn8fb6mqnial16bxvtds5dacu

"2018 The Athletic - In terms of tiers, it goes Buffalo, then a steep drop to Vancouver in its own tier, St. Louis and Carolina are in a tier, followed by a small drop after the Islanders and another minor drop after Chicago."

https://lastwordonhockey....prospect-rankings-top-10/

http://www.espn.com/nhl/i...top-ranked-buffalo-sabres
- LeftCoaster

It's really (frank)en hard for you to see the context of anything isn't it.

Buffalo has the best prospect pool because they had the only generational player not in the NHL. Mittlestadt isn't off to a spectacular start.

where are all these awesome draft picks helping out Buffalo? Dahlin 1oa, Reinhart 2oa, Eichel 2oa, Risto 8oa.
25 year old 2nd round pick Jake McCabe, yup the only 2nd round pick that currently plays for them

(frank)en Flyers fan.

Thanks tips, how does that fit the conversation?
- LeftCoaster

Maybe because of this "Hate to rain on your parade but that's completely false, I believe the Sabres have the best prospect pool in the league"

They are not rated the best prospect pool because Cliff Pu

It's really (frank)en hard for you to see the context of anything isn't it.

Buffalo has the best prospect pool because they had the only generational player not in the NHL. Mittlestadt isn't off to a spectacular start.

where are all these awesome draft picks helping out Buffalo? Dahlin 1oa, Reinhart 2oa, Eichel 2oa, Risto 8oa.
25 year old 2nd round pick Jake McCabe, yup the only 2nd round pick that currently plays for them
- manvanfan

Who said they had to be helping Buffalo now? You said they've done nothing with their picks, that's completely false. Sure picking high helped but if you look at their prospects as a whole there's lots of depth.

You get stuck on certain things and you can't see the forest for the trees.

Reinhart is not a prospect, neither is Eichel or Ristolainen.

Maybe because of this "Hate to rain on your parade but that's completely false, I believe the Sabres have the best prospect pool in the league"

They are not rated the best prospect pool because Cliff Pu
- VANTEL

He said they've done nothing with their picks, that's false. I agree picking high last year is a big reason but they built a great prospect pool because they picked a lot.

He said they've done nothing with their picks, that's false. I agree picking high last year is a big reason but they built a great prospect pool because they picked a lot.
- LeftCoaster

I will say that once you start picking second round and past it is a crap shoot. Canucks have a fairly young team and I can see Hughes and OJ being on the team but I don't see Lind or Gadjovich stealing someones spot for years or if at all.

A guy like MacEwen could make the team and he is un-drafted. You never know what you will get. I can see why Benning trades for prospects instead of picks.

Who said they had to be helping Buffalo now? You said they've done nothing with their picks, that's completely false. Sure picking high helped but if you look at their prospects as a whole there's lots of depth.

You get stuck on certain things and you can't see the forest for the trees.

Reinhart is not a prospect, neither is Eichel or Ristolainen.
- LeftCoaster

Van with their limited prospects are right behind, probably ahead if Buffalo didn't have a generational prospect listed in their system.

It's quality over quantity. Something a Flyers fan has a really hard time understanding.

I will say that once you start picking second round and past it is a crap shoot. Canucks have a fairly young team and I can see Hughes and OJ being on the team but I don't see Lind or Gadjovich stealing someones spot for years or if at all.

A guy like MacEwen could make the team and he is un-drafted. You never know what you will get. I can see why Benning trades for prospects instead of picks.
- VANTEL

Past the third round imo it's a crapshoot, yes. This is why they have the best group of kids, some may never pan out but its number one for a reason....potential. Lots of second round picks there.

1. Rasmus Dahlin LHD Buffalo (NHL) 1st/2018
2. Casey Mittelstadt C/LW Buffalo (NHL) 1st/2017
3. Alex Nylander RW Rochester (AHL) 1st/2016
4. Brendan Guhle LHD Buffalo (NHL) 2nd/2015
5. Rasmus Asplund C Rochester (AHL) 2nd/2016
6. Mattias Samuelsson LHD W. Michigan (NCAA) 2nd/2018
7. Marcus Davidsson C Djugardens (SHL) 2nd/2017
8. Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen G Sudbury (OHL) 2nd/2017
9. Victor Olofsson LW Buffalo (NHL) 7th/2014
10. Matej Pekar C Miami-Ohio (NCAA) 4th/2018

I will say that once you start picking second round and past it is a crap shoot. Canucks have a fairly young team and I can see Hughes and OJ being on the team but I don't see Lind or Gadjovich stealing someones spot for years or if at all.

A guy like MacEwen could make the team and he is un-drafted. You never know what you will get. I can see why Benning trades for prospects instead of picks.
- VANTEL

Lind and Gadjovich are young to be playing in the AHL. Nighthawk says nothing left for them to learn in the CHL. I think there was a lot for both of them to learn. Oh well, they are learning what it takes to play against men. Hopefully it doesn't crush them, them being scratched in cycles vs playing top minutes in the CHL.

Van with their limited prospects are right behind, probably ahead if Buffalo didn't have a generational prospect listed in their system.

It's quality over quantity. Something a Flyers fan has a really hard time understanding.
- manvanfan

Yup agree, Vancouver has a great pool as well, if they'd have picked more they might be #1. I don't know that Dhalin is considered generational anymore but him and Pettersson are certainly on the same level in my books.

Bottom line is, for me, Buffalo has in fact done something with all their picks.

It's ok to admit other franchises do good things too. Why is that so hard for you?

Past the third round imo it's a crapshoot, yes. This is why they have the best group of kids, some may never pan out but its number one for a reason....potential. Lots of second round picks there.

1. Rasmus Dahlin LHD Buffalo (NHL) 1st/2018
2. Casey Mittelstadt C/LW Buffalo (NHL) 1st/2017
3. Alex Nylander RW Rochester (AHL) 1st/2016
4. Brendan Guhle LHD Buffalo (NHL) 2nd/2015
5. Rasmus Asplund C Rochester (AHL) 2nd/2016
6. Mattias Samuelsson LHD W. Michigan (NCAA) 2nd/2018
7. Marcus Davidsson C Djugardens (SHL) 2nd/2017
8. Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen G Sudbury (OHL) 2nd/2017
9. Victor Olofsson LW Buffalo (NHL) 7th/2014
10. Matej Pekar C Miami-Ohio (NCAA) 4th/2018
- LeftCoaster

I like Samuelsson Dahlin and Mittelstadt the rest of them may never see NHL action.

I think past the 35 th pick it is a guessing game. You will get surprises that come out of the later rounds but they are few.

I like Samuelsson Dahlin and Mittelstadt the rest of them may never see NHL action.

I think past the 35 th pick it is a guessing game. You will get surprises that come out of the later rounds but they are few.
- VANTEL

Be nice for Brackett to pull a Marchand, or Point, or Kucherov out of his hat

Lind and Gadjovich are young to be playing in the AHL. Nighthawk says nothing left for them to learn in the CHL. I think there was a lot for both of them to learn. Oh well, they are learning what it takes to play against men. Hopefully it doesn't crush them, them being scratched in cycles vs playing top minutes in the CHL.
- manvanfan

I am not saying they will or wont make the team . The reality is there are limited spots on the Canucks and this next year two of those 23 spots will probably be used up by Hughes and OJ. Brock EP Bo Jake are not going anywhere . That leaves 8 forward spots left for a whole wack of prospects to compete for.

Be nice for Brackett to pull a Marchand, or Point, or Kucherov out of his hat
- LeftCoaster

Woo sounds like he is coming along nicely and Madden is getting noticed .

You just never know. Look at Gaudette .

Yup agree, Vancouver has a great pool as well, if they'd have picked more they might be #1. I don't know that Dhalin is considered generational anymore but him and Pettersson are certainly on the same level in my books.

Bottom line is, for me, Buffalo has in fact done something with all their picks.

It's ok to admit other franchises do good things too. Why is that so hard for you?
- LeftCoaster

Dahlin is certainly a generational D man.

It wasn't that Buffalo has done nothing, it was Buffalo has done nothing with all those extra picks. There's a reason why they were so bad for so long. 7 years without playoffs.

I admit to franchise doing good things, if they do it. With all those extra picks Buffalo drafted, not many have panned out.

Firing Hextall was a fantastic move by the Flyers organization. Happy?

Dahlin is certainly a generational D man.

It wasn't that Buffalo has done nothing, it was Buffalo has done nothing with all those extra picks. There's a reason why they were so bad for so long. 7 years without playoffs.

I admit to franchise doing good things, if they do it. With all those extra picks Buffalo drafted, not many have panned out.

Firing Hextall was a fantastic move by the Flyers organization. Happy?
- manvanfan

I know about the hype of Dahlin but I think it is overblown. I think he is a very good player and fits in nicely. I don't think he has reached the dominant level yet.

When McDavid and Matthews stepped in they were dominant. Don't get me wrong I think he will be a very good player I just don't see generational .

Lind and Gadjovich are young to be playing in the AHL. Nighthawk says nothing left for them to learn in the CHL. I think there was a lot for both of them to learn. Oh well, they are learning what it takes to play against men. Hopefully it doesn't crush them, them being scratched in cycles vs playing top minutes in the CHL.
- manvanfan

IMO its better to have them in the AHL slowly adjusting to that level rather than back in Junior. I've watched a bunch of games and Lind and Gad are actually playing well when they get the opportunity, they're not getting a ton of minutes as i think Cull is gradually easing them in. Which is in mind is proper development. I don't think many junior kids step right into the A, get handed top minutes AND produce.

Woo sounds like he is coming along nicely and Madden is getting noticed .

You just never know. Look at Gaudette .
- VANTEL

Jasek a 6th round pick, up to 11 points in 19 games in Utica.

I think it's hard to gauge what Van really has in Utica. They don't have any special players don't there. They have players that show much much better when playing with better players. Asking players like Dahlen to lead the line. Even Lind and Gadjovich albeit very young are playings that feed very well off the talent of other better players.

Lind had Dube, Gadjovich had Suzuki. In Utica they have Gaunce, Woods, Darcy. Bancks.

Jasek a 6th round pick, up to 11 points in 19 games in Utica.

I think it's hard to gauge what Van really has in Utica. They don't have any special players don't there. They have players that show much much better when playing with better players. Asking players like Dahlen to lead the line. Even Lind and Gadjovich albeit very young are playings that feed very well off the talent of other better players.

Lind had Dube, Gadjovich had Suzuki. In Utica they have Gaunce, Woods, Darcy. Bancks.
- manvanfan

I like Jasek a lot but I didn't want to say anything yet . He may be a surprise . Very skilled and off the radar.

I know about the hype of Dahlin but I think it is overblown. I think he is a very good player and fits in nicely. I don't think he has reached the dominant level yet.

When McDavid and Matthews stepped in they were dominant. Don't get me wrong I think he will be a very good player I just don't see generational .
- VANTEL

Defence is way harder to play than offence. He is on the same pace for an 18 year old as Aaron Ekblad.

Zach Werenski at 19 and Charlie McCavoy as a 20 year old and Dahlin is having just as good seasons as them at 18.

On pace to have a better season than Doughty did in his first year at 19 years old.

Dahlin may have not reached dominating games quite yet but he is very well on his way to a generational defender.

I like Jasek a lot but I didn't want to say anything yet . He may be a surprise . Very skilled and off the radar.
- VANTEL

I think he could be a mid 30 point 3rd/4th liner if he reaches his potential. I think his NHLe had him at 28 points in the NHL.

I like Jasek a lot but I didn't want to say anything yet . He may be a surprise . Very skilled and off the radar.
- VANTEL

Utica didnt have a great team to begin with - injuries and call ups hit them pretty fast. Their ECHL goalie has played the majority of the games. Boucher missed significant time - I think they were hoping to have Gaudette, Archi and Reid as their 1st line, then Kero, Dahlen, Mace as #2 - having Demko certainly would have helped OJs confidence too.