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Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Dec 11 @ 1:18 PM ET
Jason Millen: Blues frustration mounts as they host the Panthers, lose Johnson to Ducks Blues frustration mounts as they host the Panthers, lose Johnson to Ducks
mauler
St Louis Blues
Joined: 07.01.2016

Dec 11 @ 2:10 PM ET
I will never understand them scratching the highly rated rookies. What do they have to lose at this point? Give them playing time.
cuethenoise
St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 01.22.2013

Dec 11 @ 2:15 PM ET
They think they can still "turn it around" ha
mauler
St Louis Blues
Joined: 07.01.2016

Dec 11 @ 2:19 PM ET
I was at the game on Sunday. What a waste of time to spend your Sunday afternoon. We ended up leaving after the 2nd period. It was obvious that the team was not on the same page and clear that some guys were just going through the motions. Who wants to spend their hard earned money to go watch that lack of effort.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Dec 11 @ 4:22 PM ET
Why not start Binnington?
Kyrou scores his first goal, you've got to keep playing him. You want to shake it up, then you sit the poor performers like Steen. You let them know that a lack of effort will NOT be tolerated. You can't sit Perron for taking bad penalties then not be consistent with your message.

You always need to make Allen earn his playing time. Before he started well recall that Johnson first started playing well.
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Dec 11 @ 4:27 PM ET
"It’s a great day for hockey."




Not really.
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Dec 11 @ 5:18 PM ET
"It’s a great day for hockey."




Not really.

- bcallaway


I didn't say "Blues hockey".
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Dec 11 @ 6:42 PM ET
Why not start Binnington?
Kyrou scores his first goal, you've got to keep playing him. You want to shake it up, then you sit the poor performers like Steen. You let them know that a lack of effort will NOT be tolerated. You can't sit Perron for taking bad penalties then not be consistent with your message.

You always need to make Allen earn his playing time. Before he started well recall that Johnson first started playing well.

- BluemanGuruu


Binnington is going to get some time. He just got called up, they likely want him to practice a time or two with the team before throwing him in there.

Allen and the team had a bad game Sunday. But Allen has been pretty good since Nov. They are still going to play him, it is not going to be 100% rookies in goal.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Dec 11 @ 6:43 PM ET
"It’s a great day for hockey."




Not really.

- bcallaway



Still going anyway! At least I am getting a hat and scarf.

Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Dec 11 @ 6:48 PM ET


Still going anyway! At least I am getting a hat and scarf.


- carcus

Us too. You better not take the last ones before we get there lo
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Dec 11 @ 8:52 PM ET
Good job showing that they're trying to play better. 1 shot on net on a 4 minute pp. oh but jk says they are passing better and the played well that period. Not (frank)ing buying it. This team sucks. 2 panthers beat 4 blues in our zone to score that goal. You (frank)ing kidding me? This team is a (frank)ing joke.
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Dec 11 @ 10:53 PM ET
I'm confused. Blues gave up another lead but still managed to win??? On the late 3rd play against Schwartz, what exactly is a penalty in this league? Sure changes from game to game, period to period, shift to shift. I guess with Schwartz back the Blues can start winning again.....that is until his next injury
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Dec 12 @ 8:44 AM ET
Binnington is going to get some time. He just got called up, they likely want him to practice a time or two with the team before throwing him in there.

Allen and the team had a bad game Sunday. But Allen has been pretty good since Nov. They are still going to play him, it is not going to be 100% rookies in goal.

- carcus


Sometimes I ask questions and they are merely rhetorical

Allen gave up some weak ones again. His recent surge coincided with Johnson's uptick in play and taking ice time. There is certainly causation here due to the pattern over time.

Look, the point is I'm not sure I want to see this team win enough games to sit just outside the play offs.

Trasenko's overall game started to pick up and then it's back to mediocre. He's dragging O'Reilley down. It's got to be time to make a move to shake up the core and I think the Blues need to strongly consider a move from one of the big three of the core. I cannot see moving Petro and Schwartz would be a mistake, since a number of his injuries have come from Tarasenko shots. While his value is still perceived higher than his reality he should be moved. His game has not really grown. I do not care how pure of a goal scorer he can be.

I'd look at Carolina. Get a young dman, move a dman and Tarasenko and get something good in return, especially some picks because you have to consider the expansion draft.
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Dec 12 @ 10:40 AM ET
Sometimes I ask questions and they are merely rhetorical

Allen gave up some weak ones again. His recent surge coincided with Johnson's uptick in play and taking ice time. There is certainly causation here due to the pattern over time.

Look, the point is I'm not sure I want to see this team win enough games to sit just outside the play offs.

Trasenko's overall game started to pick up and then it's back to mediocre. He's dragging O'Reilley down. It's got to be time to make a move to shake up the core and I think the Blues need to strongly consider a move from one of the big three of the core. I cannot see moving Petro and Schwartz would be a mistake, since a number of his injuries have come from Tarasenko shots. While his value is still perceived higher than his reality he should be moved. His game has not really grown. I do not care how pure of a goal scorer he can be.

I'd look at Carolina. Get a young dman, move a dman and Tarasenko and get something good in return, especially some picks because you have to consider the expansion draft.

- BluemanGuruu


Tarasenko, Schwartz, Pietrangelo, Jake Allen.

What do all these guys have in common? Extremely gifted young players who have evolved into incredibly mediocre talents.

I don't think trades or shake ups are the answer. The answer is finding and hiring a coach right now that can coach superstars and push them and get more out of them.

Trading any one of these guys will just mean you'll be watching them in a year or two hoisting the Stanley Cup over their head in another sweater. History has proven that time and time again.

If this situation doesn't change soon, Doug Armstrong will not finish the season here. Nor does he deserve to.


Yeah Boyes
St Louis Blues
Location: Ekland, MO
Joined: 04.20.2009

Dec 12 @ 12:00 PM ET
Sometimes I ask questions and they are merely rhetorical

Allen gave up some weak ones again. His recent surge coincided with Johnson's uptick in play and taking ice time. There is certainly causation here due to the pattern over time.

Look, the point is I'm not sure I want to see this team win enough games to sit just outside the play offs.

Trasenko's overall game started to pick up and then it's back to mediocre. He's dragging O'Reilley down. It's got to be time to make a move to shake up the core and I think the Blues need to strongly consider a move from one of the big three of the core. I cannot see moving Petro and Schwartz would be a mistake, since a number of his injuries have come from Tarasenko shots. While his value is still perceived higher than his reality he should be moved. His game has not really grown. I do not care how pure of a goal scorer he can be.

I'd look at Carolina. Get a young dman, move a dman and Tarasenko and get something good in return, especially some picks because you have to consider the expansion draft.

- BluemanGuruu



This totally has the feel of an ~85 point season.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Dec 12 @ 5:14 PM ET
Tarasenko, Schwartz, Pietrangelo, Jake Allen.

What do all these guys have in common? Extremely gifted young players who have evolved into incredibly mediocre talents.

I don't think trades or shake ups are the answer. The answer is finding and hiring a coach right now that can coach superstars and push them and get more out of them.

Trading any one of these guys will just mean you'll be watching them in a year or two hoisting the Stanley Cup over their head in another sweater. History has proven that time and time again.

If this situation doesn't change soon, Doug Armstrong will not finish the season here. Nor does he deserve to.

- bcallaway


Bouchard, Puljujarvi and a 1st for Tarasenko.
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Dec 12 @ 9:17 PM ET
Per Rutherford Blues are open for business listening to offers on any and all players. They are NOT calling though.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Dec 12 @ 10:28 PM ET
love it
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Dec 13 @ 8:42 AM ET
Bouchard, Puljujarvi and a 1st for Tarasenko.
- Wildschwein

If that were remotely possible....done. But you all would have to shed cap.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Dec 13 @ 8:44 AM ET
love it
- wingz4life

If we still had that awesome rivalry. Now my hatred has just turned to indifference. I get only a little joy in watching the Dead Things suffer.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Dec 13 @ 8:47 AM ET
There are rumors on Petro but I have a hard time seeing him traded. One potential "destination" mentioned was Edmonton. It's a tough sell to a NTC player. The thoughts mentioned on such a move is that the Oilers would need tonot include Bouchard in the trade and that the Blues would require the player in the deal. Which is fine but you can't easily trade a player for a player with potential to be like said player and call that good. The Blues would need to take on salary I believe and that has to also drive the cost up.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 13 @ 9:01 AM ET
Do not trade for Ryan O'Reilly is what I am seeing.
Yeah Boyes
St Louis Blues
Location: Ekland, MO
Joined: 04.20.2009

Dec 13 @ 10:39 AM ET
2004: Ovechkin (Malkin #2)
2005: Crosby
2006: EJ
2007: Kane
2008: Stamkos
2009: Tavares
2010: Hall

EJ was surrounded by superstars, future HOFers, and most importantly, cup drinkers. We simply weren't bad at the right time.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Dec 13 @ 12:58 PM ET
If that were remotely possible....done. But you all would have to shed cap.
- BluemanGuruu


Sekera would be bought out (affordable relatively speaking), thus providing almost enough coin. You might also have to take Kassian, but he’ll be a UFA after next year so that wouldn’t be a big deal.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 13 @ 1:00 PM ET
Do not trade for Ryan O'Reilly is what I am seeing.
- RogerRoeper

seriously, the man is cursed
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