Meh, i doubt hes traded, but if dubas wants to pull off a big deal, i would think he could be involved. We'll see.
As for what dubas said, meh it holds no water. Gms lie or change their minds all the time. If trading overpaid-ander makes the team better, dubas will do it.
- Fakepartofme

could add Stone for 1st round pick.
Ottawa might want to save their face a bit and at least have a 1st rounder...

Meh, i doubt hes traded, but if dubas wants to pull off a big deal, i would think he could be involved. We'll see.
As for what dubas said, meh it holds no water. Gms lie or change their minds all the time. If trading overpaid-ander makes the team better, dubas will do it.
- Fakepartofme

could add Stone for 1st round pick.
Ottawa might want to save their face a bit and at least have a 1st rounder...

And there's the rub. If trading away Matthews and Marner makes he team better Kyle will do it. It's his job to do it. But the media have traded Nylander for Tanev, Gudbransson, Faulk, Slavin, Dumba, Pesce, Seabrook, Hamilton, Nurse, Parayko, Pietrangelo, any Ducks dman and a multitude of others.

I think it's safe to say the media are just naming dmen and trading Nylander for them
- walshyleafsfan

True, i dont put much stock in some media peeps, they are click bait whores.

could add Stone for 1st round pick.
Ottawa might want to save their face a bit and at least have a 1st rounder...
- plantheparade

I wonder who we could add for a 1st rounder?
Lol
:p

I wonder who we could add for a 1st rounder?
Lol
:p
- Fakepartofme

Stone
Stone
Stone

?

could add Stone for 1st round pick.
Ottawa might want to save their face a bit and at least have a 1st rounder...
- plantheparade

I would love Stone. But we'd lose Nylander and a 1st for about 2 months of Stone

I would love Stone. But we'd lose Nylander and a 1st for about 2 months of Stone
- walshyleafsfan

I honestly don't think that he'll be as expensive..
If Stone would resign with Leafs, I'm happy to give up Nylander and a 1st though.

I honestly don't think that he'll be as expensive..
If Stone would resign with Leafs, I'm happy to give up Nylander and a 1st though.
- plantheparade

I think he's gonna get paid very handsomely in UFA. Can't see the Leafs having the cap space for him.

No moves will be made.

I honestly don't think that he'll be as expensive..
If Stone would resign with Leafs, I'm happy to give up Nylander and a 1st though.
- plantheparade

For Stone? HOLY (frank) DUDE.... Put the legal pot down

I think it could be but I doubt it would be Nylander.

Johnnson, Kap or maybe some prospects.

A lot of people would balk at trading Lilybust...but if they can bring in a top D. They have Rielly, Top D, Dermott as a strong core. Z as the 4th D. Then the only hole you have to fill is the bottom pairings which Sandin has proved to be a better prospect this season than Lilybust.

I’d do it if it helps us get to a cup.

Craig custance mentioned Lilybust as a player the Leafs would feel comfortable trading due to Sandins emergence.
- Santo_44

Stop trying to trade Liljegren. He's 19 years old and a RHD -- not an asset you give up on this early in their development.

Has Sandin been pretty great? Sure. As an 18 year old he's been awesome-sauce. But, again, it's way too early to start comparing him to Tim -- plus, he's a LHD which is a much easier asset to draft/acquire than RHD.

You can talk about "I'd do it if it helps us get to a cup" but how the hell can you evaluate that? Standing pat might get us there. Acquiring a bottom pair defender might do it. Moving Dermott to the top pairing and Hainsey down the depth chart could do it. Etc. etc.

Let's stop trading prospects and 1sts, people.

For Stone? HOLY (frank) DUDE.... Put the legal pot down
- .OHOH.

This sounds more like PCP to me!

Stop trying to trade Liljegren. He's 19 years old and a RHD -- not an asset you give up on this early in their development.

Has Sandin been pretty great? Sure. As an 18 year old he's been awesome-sauce. But, again, it's way too early to start comparing him to Tim -- plus, he's a LHD which is a much easier asset to draft/acquire than RHD.

You can talk about "I'd do it if it helps us get to a cup" but how the hell can you evaluate that? Standing pat might get us there. Acquiring a bottom pair defender might do it. Moving Dermott to the top pairing and Hainsey down the depth chart could do it. Etc. etc.

Let's stop trading prospects and 1sts, people.
- mjones242

Right there with you bro

Stop trying to trade Liljegren. He's 19 years old and a RHD -- not an asset you give up on this early in their development.

Has Sandin been pretty great? Sure. As an 18 year old he's been awesome-sauce. But, again, it's way too early to start comparing him to Tim -- plus, he's a LHD which is a much easier asset to draft/acquire than RHD.

You can talk about "I'd do it if it helps us get to a cup" but how the hell can you evaluate that? Standing pat might get us there. Acquiring a bottom pair defender might do it. Moving Dermott to the top pairing and Hainsey down the depth chart could do it. Etc. etc.

Let's stop trading prospects and 1sts, people.
- mjones242

Agreed. Leafs are not at the point where they should be trading picks and prospects away. And with a large percentage of the cap going to a select few players, may never be.

I think he's gonna get paid very handsomely in UFA. Can't see the Leafs having the cap space for him.
- walshyleafsfan

Easily 8M+.

Agreed. Leafs are not at the point where they should be trading picks and prospects away. And with a large percentage of the cap going to a select few players, may never be.
- walshyleafsfan

Excellent point!

Stop trying to trade Liljegren. He's 19 years old and a RHD -- not an asset you give up on this early in their development.

Has Sandin been pretty great? Sure. As an 18 year old he's been awesome-sauce. But, again, it's way too early to start comparing him to Tim -- plus, he's a LHD which is a much easier asset to draft/acquire than RHD.

You can talk about "I'd do it if it helps us get to a cup" but how the hell can you evaluate that? Standing pat might get us there. Acquiring a bottom pair defender might do it. Moving Dermott to the top pairing and Hainsey down the depth chart could do it. Etc. etc.

Let's stop trading prospects and 1sts, people.
- mjones242

I tend to agree with this thinking. Although, our 1st is going to be in that 24-30 range most likely. Like any group of fans, we overvalue our prospects, but Sandin and Liljegren both have better potential comparative to their draft position. So if the Leafs are trading a 1st, they should treat it with a similar valuation (ie, it might be 20-30, but we value it as a 10-20) and only budge if the other team accepts that consideration.

Basically, I think my opinion is that this doesn't have to be the year. So only move out a 1st if it's really worth it.

For Stone? HOLY (frank) DUDE.... Put the legal pot down
- .OHOH.

What he's smoking isn't weed...

I tend to agree with this thinking. Although, our 1st is going to be in that 24-30 range most likely. Like any group of fans, we overvalue our prospects, but Sandin and Liljegren both have better potential comparative to their draft position. So if the Leafs are trading a 1st, they should treat it with a similar valuation (ie, it might be 20-30, but we value it as a 10-20) and only budge if the other team accepts that consideration.

Basically, I think my opinion is that this doesn't have to be the year. So only move out a 1st if it's really worth it.
- Monkeypunk

I like the look of Thomas Harley and Cam York (who I've only seen a couple of times) for the Leafs pick. Imagine York might be long gone though.

Did we trade anyone yet?

Can we dump Zaitsev? Guy is bad. Everytime he gets the puck in the offensive zone, the play dies. He just has no offensive ability. Can barely make a pass it seems... skates like he has something in his rectum...

Willy is limp? I hated that contract the second it was signed...

I wonder who we could add for a 1st rounder?
Lol
:p
- Fakepartofme

Stop trying to trade Liljegren. He's 19 years old and a RHD -- not an asset you give up on this early in their development.

Has Sandin been pretty great? Sure. As an 18 year old he's been awesome-sauce. But, again, it's way too early to start comparing him to Tim -- plus, he's a LHD which is a much easier asset to draft/acquire than RHD.

You can talk about "I'd do it if it helps us get to a cup" but how the hell can you evaluate that? Standing pat might get us there. Acquiring a bottom pair defender might do it. Moving Dermott to the top pairing and Hainsey down the depth chart could do it. Etc. etc.

Let's stop trading prospects and 1sts, people.
- mjones242

Welcome to being a contending team
Some 1st and some prospects will get traded over the course of our run.

I like the look of Thomas Harley and Cam York (who I've only seen a couple of times) for the Leafs pick. Imagine York might be long gone though.
- walshyleafsfan

Harley is intriguing. Basically a Schultz/Gardiner type guy.

I'd have no problem with Leason. He might be overage, but he looked good in the WJHC.

Again, while I would rather build up the prospect cupboard, I'd also say that if the return is reasonable for what you're paying, then you go for it. But some teams treat their 1st round picks like Canadian currency. It's not devalued the moment you get it, Burke. Er. Nothing. I'm not bitter.

Welcome to being a contending team
Some 1st and some prospects will get traded over the course of our run.
- Fakepartofme

We are a contender? I don't think we are... I just dont see us winning a long playoff war... yet

Are we a good team? Yes, but I just don't see true contender. This is more of a function of our age. Lots of young guys that need to get stronger, etc...

I think in like 2-3 years is when we will enter Tampa-ish territory...

We are a contender? I don't think we are... I just dont see us winning a long playoff war... yet

Are we a good team? Yes, but I just don't see true contender. This is more of a function of our age. Lots of young guys that need to get stronger, etc...

I think in like 2-3 years is when we will enter Tampa-ish territory...
- Hockey_Reverend

The Leafs are definitely a contender. What the hell is going on in here? It's the NHL playoffs the team expected to win almost never does and you have a team that looks poised to make it to the second round this go around. If you knock off the Lightning, tall ask, but possible, who's to say where the road ends? I think you need to start maximizing these team while you're on friendly deals with your superstars now because you won't be able to add to a team like this in the future. You don't know what will happen in years to come so when you have a chance to win you go for it instead of whining about a first or a prospect.