sticking with Saad and Forsling from Chicago for Stone

Seriously?! Wow. Big mistake. But in the end that’s all a prospect is, a prospect that might be good some day
- KINGS67

Amen - especially now people are wise to his deficiencies, I can't see him resigning, or any other teams being remotely interested in a player that thinks he's worth 5AV but plays like a 650K 7 stringer. Gods I wish I could cheer for a less infuriating team...

Amen - especially now people are wise to his deficiencies, I can't see him resigning, or any other teams being remotely interested in a player that thinks he's worth 5AV but plays like a 650K 7 stringer. Gods I wish I could cheer for a less infuriating team...
- Bartacus

Hopefully they get what they want if they trade Stone and/or Duchene.

He's a rental
- obie

Anaheim is delusional if they think they are in the playoff race with a -23 differential. They lean on Gibs too hard and I can't imagine that puck luck extending that far, and Duchene alone won't switch it up. Add their depleted prospect pool, and I see ANA better off sitting tight. But you never know...

Anaheim is delusional if they think they are in the playoff race with a -23 differential. They lean on Gibs too hard and I can't imagine that puck luck extending that far, and Duchene alone won't switch it up. Add their depleted prospect pool, and I see ANA better off sitting tight. But you never know...
- Bartacus

Not only are they -23 they have the least amount of wins and their top scorer has maybe 23 points. It’s laughable. Also I don’t think they have any cap space

Hopefully they get what they want if they trade Stone and/or Duchene.
- KINGS67

Well I assuredly appreciate the kind sentiment, but with 'we're a team Dorion' in charge (YouTube that for a laugh) I'm not counting chickens just yet.

To the Sens
Timothy lilljegren
1st round 2020 if leafs win cup, otherwise 2021 1st round
& 2020 2nd round pick
Tyler ennis

To leafs
Mark Stone
3rd rou d 2019

Then to the habs
William nylander
Sean durzi

To the leafs
Jeff petry
2019 2rd round
2020 3rd round

I’m sticking with Nylander + Liljegren + brown/johsson + conditional 1st will not land both.

Will it get 1 of those players maybe. Unless a team comes up with a better offer, which I do believe will be the case.

In the end I doubt TOR makes a play for either. They need a Dman
- KINGS67

Will it get 1 of those players? Are you kidding me?!?! Both Stone and Duchene are UFAs and most likely rentals and that lowers their value from what they are actually worth in a trade. Yes Nylander is struggling so far but is 22 and a first line winger. What I offered is an overpayment by Toronto but that’s because it’s an in-division trade.

Plus is Ceci that bad? I don’t want many Sens games so I haven’t seen him play much. He’s only 25 and could still turn it around on a different team and coach. I stand by what I offered before.

Nylander, Brown/Johnson, Lilgren and a first for Duchene, Stone and Ceci.

On my earlier trade forgot to mention its contibgent on stone resigning with leafs

On my earlier trade forgot to mention its contibgent on stone resigning with leafs
- Hockey_Nutter

Not nearly enough for a re-signed stone

[quote=James-TFS]
You do realize a maybe is not a YES or a NO.

And I’ll stand by my sentence. You won’t get both for that.

You’re giving them ONE lousy pick to make it even worse.

The leafs trade Garret Sparks and a 4th round pick in 2020 for Stone

[quote=James-TFS]
Here’s a better question for you leaf fans insisting on trading nylander+ for a UFA that could very well walk after this season.

Do you really want to risk losing those young assets for half a season of Stone or Duchene?

Mark Stone - Bobby Ryan - 2020 2nd for Kailer Yammamoto, Ethan Bear, Milan Lucic, Zach Kassian, 2020 1 st (conditional on resign if not a 2020 ,2nd and a 3rd).

Very Chiarellish.

[quote=KINGS67]
Like I said it’s not a great trade long term for the leafs which is why I included Ceci. The Leafs will have to trade Nylander in the offseason because of cap issues and while I would rather deal him for a Parayko or a Pietrangelo, they may not actually be available this year. Trading Nylander for Stone and Duchene is a risk but so is trading their picks and prospects.

[quote=James-TFS]

Ceci is horrible and as a Leaf fan, you shouldn't be trying to promote this trade, cause it's horrible

[quote=James-TFS]
I think a trade for parayko or Pietrangelo will happen in the off-season. Definitely hold onto nylander for a trade like that.

I understand why you would want to trade nylander for Stone and/or Duchene, and that’s to win a cup. But that’s a huge bet to make for a championship that may not happen this year. Now, if you trade nylander+, you’re out a very good young skilled forward and other assets for a player or 2 that leaves (very good chance they leave) with no championship and no trade chip to get a pietrangelo or parayko type player.

I don’t think it’s a very smart idea for TOR fans to even want those 2. Keep your trade chips for an outstanding D man.

Remember, Ottawa traded one year of Erik Karlsson to San Jose for:

2019 2nd
2020 1st (2019 1st if San Jose misses playoffs)
2021 2nd (if Karlsson re-signs)
Chris Tierney (3/4C)
Dylan DeMelo (5/6D)
Josh Norris (promising unsigned NCAA prospect)
Rudolfs Balcers (decent prospect)

So 2 guaranteed draft picks, a conditional draft pick, 2 decent but not great prospects, and two depth players for Erik Karlsson.

Stone and/or Duchene will get significantly less than that, since they're both rentals and neither are top 5 at their position in the league.

I would say the return for each will probably be a guaranteed pick and a decent prospect (1st if the prospect is ok, 2nd if the prospect is quality), a conditional pick based off the player re-signing, and a depth player/cap dump.

The Kings won't trade for either due to their tenuous cap situation, but if they did, a trade would likely look something like this:

2019 2nd
Conditional 2020 1st (if re-signed)
Jaret Anderson-Dolan
Trevor Lewis

Remember, Ottawa traded one year of Erik Karlsson to SJ for:

2019 2nd
2020 1st (2019 1st if San Jose misses playoffs)
2021 2nd (if Karlsson re-signs)
Chris Tierney (3/4C)
Dylan DeMelo (5/6D)
Josh Norris (promising unsigned NCAA prospect)
Rudolfs Balcers (decent prospect)
- tkecanuck341

So the first 3 are right
Chris Tierney (2/3C)
Dylan DeMelo (yes, but fits well at times as a second pairing)
Josh Norris is a solid prospect
Balcers is a good prospect; best case, diamond in the rough; otherwise a flash in the pan

These leaf fans are (frank)ing hilarious. They all should get their own stand up.
- KINGS67

They are really out there. They are some of the most ignorant fans I've come across since bandwagon Hawks fans...

So the first 3 are right
Chris Tierney (2/3C)
Dylan DeMelo (yes, but fits well at times as a second pairing)
Josh Norris is a solid prospect
Balcers is a good prospect; best case, diamond in the rough; otherwise a flash in the pan
- AlfieisKing

So we agree then? I think you basically said the same thing I did except that Chris Tierney has a higher ceiling on bad teams.

From the Rangers. Kevin Hayes, vesey and Tampa 2nd possibly first rounder if they win the cup

Anahiem gets mark stone
Ottawa gets anahiem first round pick in 2019 lottery protected, 2nd round pick in 2020 and Jacob Silfverberg

Anahiem gets mark stone
Ottawa gets anahiem first round pick in 2019 lottery protected, 2nd round pick in 2020 and Jacob Silfverberg
- Eman87654

They're not going to trade Stone for a pending UFA. Swap Silfverberg for Montour, Manson, or Rakell and the Ducks might have a shot.

Sorry Sens fans. I get that Stone and Duchene are tearing it up this year, but they are also UFA at year end. That significantly limits what you can get back from them UNLESS the agreement is for signed and extended players.

The idea that you are snubbing good players (not the same quality as Stone/Duchene) with term on their contracts WITH prospects and picks for rentals is ridiculous.