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Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

Jan 8 @ 12:34 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Flames rebound offensively in win over Blackhawks
bforbs4
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jan 8 @ 12:59 PM ET
Hindsight is always 20/20 but I never understood why Brett Kulak wasn't appreciated by management. I think he would have fit well as a third pairing left shot defender at a decent contract.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jan 8 @ 1:21 PM ET
Anyone heard anything on Vilimaki? Been out a while now.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jan 8 @ 1:24 PM ET
Anyone heard anything on Vilimaki? Been out a while now.
- DuranDuran


I think I heard BT say late January return. High ankle sprain.
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Jan 8 @ 1:27 PM ET
I think I heard BT say late January return. High ankle sprain.
- tincup



Yeah wow he has been out forever it seems
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jan 8 @ 1:27 PM ET
Hindsight is always 20/20 but I never understood why Brett Kulak wasn't appreciated by management. I think he would have fit well as a third pairing left shot defender at a decent contract.
- bforbs4


What's the problem with Valimaki/Kylington?
cnknut
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jan 8 @ 1:31 PM ET
Always a good read thanks Todd keep up the good work
bforbs4
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jan 8 @ 1:36 PM ET
What's the problem with Valimaki/Kylington?
- rmull905


I don't have a problem with either I like the youth for sure. Valimaki is injured for an undisclosed period of time (seems long term at this point) and Kylington has been fine by me (a few blunders to be expected) but as mentioned in the article he is playing less minutes each game and doesn't seem to have the coaches trust.
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Jan 8 @ 1:53 PM ET
I don't have a problem with either I like the youth for sure. Valimaki is injured for an undisclosed period of time (seems long term at this point) and Kylington has been fine by me (a few blunders to be expected) but as mentioned in the article he is playing less minutes each game and doesn't seem to have the coaches trust.
- bforbs4



He pinched on a play a couple games ago and the opposing team scored. I think I noticed his icetime dip after that
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Jan 8 @ 1:54 PM ET
I would just like to mention Flames have 4 50 point players. First team to do so at the 45 game mark since 1996 Penguins.

Keep it going boys!

tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jan 8 @ 1:59 PM ET
He pinched on a play a couple games ago and the opposing team scored. I think I noticed his icetime dip after that
- Squilliam-


He reminds me of TJ Brodie, especially in his younger days. Great skater but sometimes gets into trouble because of it. He'll learn but he may need a bit more seasoning in the AHL.
hags11
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jan 8 @ 2:12 PM ET
Hey - it sounds like Stone is likely going to be made available. Considering this is looking like a year when the Flames should be all in on the cup, what do you think of this:

To Ott: Kylington, Dube, 3rd round pick 2019, conditional unprotected 1st in 2020 (The condition is if Stone resigns after July 1 with Flames)

To Calg: Stone + 5th round pick 2019

Other thought is to remove the 2019 third and add in Frolik instead.
Flames in 6 04
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.15.2007

Jan 8 @ 2:20 PM ET
Hey - it sounds like Stone is likely going to be made available. Considering this is looking like a year when the Flames should be all in on the cup, what do you think of this:

To Ott: Kylington, Dube, 3rd round pick 2019, conditional unprotected 1st in 2020 (The condition is if Stone resigns after July 1 with Flames)

To Calg: Stone + 5th round pick 2019

Other thought is to remove the 2019 third and add in Frolik instead.

- hags11


No way I would give up Dube and Kylington for a rental. I think both will be every day NHLers, not sure where Dube ends up fitting in when he's ready but Kylington I'm sure will be a top 4 dman. I don't think that we should mess too much with the chemistry on this team, if there is an opportunity to improve the 3rd and 4th line then have a look for sure but don't give too much. I would like to see Lazar brought up to help the 3rd and 4th line, I think he could add a spark.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jan 8 @ 2:36 PM ET
I don't have a problem with either I like the youth for sure. Valimaki is injured for an undisclosed period of time (seems long term at this point) and Kylington has been fine by me (a few blunders to be expected) but as mentioned in the article he is playing less minutes each game and doesn't seem to have the coaches trust.
- bforbs4


Fair points, Kulak is a good depth guy on pretty much any team - I think he dug into the negotiation a little farther than management liked/expected.

Was glad to see that the kids got a shot and have generally played pretty well. I think Kylington was the guy we all expected to need another year, and Prout isn't a good enough 7 when a guy like Valimaki goes down (as proven by the fact that Kylington is currently the regular 6).
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jan 8 @ 2:38 PM ET
No way I would give up Dube and Kylington for a rental. I think both will be every day NHLers, not sure where Dube ends up fitting in when he's ready but Kylington I'm sure will be a top 4 dman. I don't think that we should mess too much with the chemistry on this team, if there is an opportunity to improve the 3rd and 4th line then have a look for sure but don't give too much. I would like to see Lazar brought up to help the 3rd and 4th line, I think he could add a spark.
- Flames in 6 04


Tend to agree, as much as I love Stone as a player and a full season option, that's a lot to pay for a guy who will play 20 games + playoffs.

So rarely do rentals truly pay dividends, I'd rather see Neal flipped for him (in some way, if not direct) and go for the re-sign if he's comfy with riding 2nd line for a few years.
jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 8 @ 2:47 PM ET
Hey - it sounds like Stone is likely going to be made available. Considering this is looking like a year when the Flames should be all in on the cup, what do you think of this:

To Ott: Kylington, Dube, 3rd round pick 2019, conditional unprotected 1st in 2020 (The condition is if Stone resigns after July 1 with Flames)

To Calg: Stone + 5th round pick 2019

Other thought is to remove the 2019 third and add in Frolik instead.

- hags11


Neal for Stone...Duh
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Leafs Losers Even After Fifty-one Seasons
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jan 8 @ 2:50 PM ET
No way I would give up Dube and Kylington for a rental. I think both will be every day NHLers, not sure where Dube ends up fitting in when he's ready but Kylington I'm sure will be a top 4 dman. I don't think that we should mess too much with the chemistry on this team, if there is an opportunity to improve the 3rd and 4th line then have a look for sure but don't give too much. I would like to see Lazar brought up to help the 3rd and 4th line, I think he could add a spark.
- Flames in 6 04

Why would you think Lazar after 40 games in the a is any better than the useless piece he was here? Fuk that, if Stone is available why wouldn’t we go all in? Don’t want to miss an opportunity that we might not get back.
Frolik, Kylington, Dube..... what ever it takes.
hags11
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jan 8 @ 3:05 PM ET
No way I would give up Dube and Kylington for a rental. I think both will be every day NHLers, not sure where Dube ends up fitting in when he's ready but Kylington I'm sure will be a top 4 dman. I don't think that we should mess too much with the chemistry on this team, if there is an opportunity to improve the 3rd and 4th line then have a look for sure but don't give too much. I would like to see Lazar brought up to help the 3rd and 4th line, I think he could add a spark.
- Flames in 6 04


Normally, I would not want to give up such high end prospects - but this could be Calgary's year - Stone could put them over the top - plus other teams (i.e. Vegas, Winnipeg, Nashville) will all likely be adding before the deadline. We are now one of those teams that have to keep up if we think we can do damage this year. Ott will want youth and/or picks mostly, then maybe an NHL roster player also. I think Frolik, Dube, & Kylington might get it done. Conditional 1st if Stone resigns. This would not mess with the chemistry on the team as Frolik looks like he might be on the way out anyway, Dube is in Stockton, and Kylington will be replaced by Valimaki after his injury is done. Also, one of our youth on defence will need to be traded or we will lose them to Seattle in the 2020 expansion draft.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jan 8 @ 3:14 PM ET
Hey - it sounds like Stone is likely going to be made available. Considering this is looking like a year when the Flames should be all in on the cup, what do you think of this:

To Ott: Kylington, Dube, 3rd round pick 2019, conditional unprotected 1st in 2020 (The condition is if Stone resigns after July 1 with Flames)

To Calg: Stone + 5th round pick 2019

Other thought is to remove the 2019 third and add in Frolik instead.

- hags11

No bloody way!!
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jan 8 @ 3:16 PM ET
What's the problem with Valimaki/Kylington?
- rmull905

It’s because the guys on the radio are saying the Flames are looking for a left shot depth D man.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jan 8 @ 3:17 PM ET
Normally, I would not want to give up such high end prospects - but this could be Calgary's year - Stone could put them over the top - plus other teams (i.e. Vegas, Winnipeg, Nashville) will all likely be adding before the deadline. We are now one of those teams that have to keep up if we think we can do damage this year. Ott will want youth and/or picks mostly, then maybe an NHL roster player also. I think Frolik, Dube, & Kylington might get it done. Conditional 1st if Stone resigns. This would not mess with the chemistry on the team as Frolik looks like he might be on the way out anyway, Dube is in Stockton, and Kylington will be replaced by Valimaki after his injury is done. Also, one of our youth on defence will need to be traded or we will lose them to Seattle in the 2020 expansion draft.
- hags11

Still no!
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jan 8 @ 4:04 PM ET
Hindsight is always 20/20 but I never understood why Brett Kulak wasn't appreciated by management. I think he would have fit well as a third pairing left shot defender at a decent contract.
- bforbs4


Because he would be 9th or 10th on the depth chart...no way was he a top six
bsimms
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 10.25.2013

Jan 8 @ 4:30 PM ET
I liked Kulak in a 3rd pairing role, unfortunately Lazar sucks. We need Valamaki back and Stone could work as a rotational d-man going into playoffs.
pzoxic
Joined: 11.21.2015

Jan 8 @ 4:51 PM ET
Still no!
- Clyde334

Wow I agree with the ape! No bloody way!!! Don’t mess with the cemetery.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jan 8 @ 5:13 PM ET
It’s because the guys on the radio are saying the Flames are looking for a left shot depth D man.
- Clyde334

Ahhhhhhhhh...

Well, they should probably worry more about a right shot depth dman considering Prout's inability to play NHL hockey.. Valimaki will be back shortly and Kylington is pretty much a perfect left shot depth option... Anyways, doubt it would be altogether costly, I bet Bartkowski is still available

Betting Hunk has already called Minny's GM to work out all the details.
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