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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jan 9 @ 4:25 PM ET
It's quite ironic that the media had reported Nylander was looking originally for a Dry-sattle deal, as much like Dry-sattle, without Matthews, Nylander isn't good enough to be productive. Dubas fell into the unfortunate honey trap the Chia Pet did...
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jan 9 @ 4:32 PM ET
Dubas is in russia looking at a centre. Is he thinking of moving kadri? Last yr 10 centres in the nhl scored 30 goals the leafs have 3 on thier team. Although leafs wont be able to replace him st 4.5 mill. And 4yrs left .it makes him very valuable.if marner and Mathews get more than 22 mil combined and we nedd two solid defense the writing is on the wall.nylander and kadri plus that 1st could bring in those 2 defense. If nylander is involed it wont happen before july 1st
- ziffles


It's said that he's looking for defence, but it's also said he's looking at Andronov. If that's the case, he would slot in at 4C.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Jan 9 @ 4:48 PM ET
Maybe you should pick another team to Cheer for / or against... whatever.
- bixll

TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jan 9 @ 4:50 PM ET

- plantheparade


Didn't he end up in prison? Some people don't know to quit when they're behind.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jan 9 @ 5:17 PM ET
It's quite ironic that the media had reported Nylander was looking originally for a Dry-sattle deal, as much like Dry-sattle, without Matthews, Nylander isn't good enough to be productive. Dubas fell into the unfortunate honey trap the Chia Pet did...
- aminnes



gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jan 9 @ 5:26 PM ET
The preds were just on a 5-6 game losing streak....

Why when the Leafs lose two games in a row they are doomed but when the Preds loss 6 they are still a top team.

Some of you need to chill with losing. It’ll happen every season until the world ends. Get used to it.

- Santo_44


Truthy good vibes right here.

I still respect/like the Preds defensive game; I mean, who wouldn't? But same with the Wild: these teams have to play shutdown hockey in order to win.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 9 @ 5:35 PM ET

- Steven_Seagull


discuss
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 9 @ 5:55 PM ET
Dubas is in russia looking at a centre. Is he thinking of moving kadri? Last yr 10 centres in the nhl scored 30 goals the leafs have 3 on thier team. Although leafs wont be able to replace him st 4.5 mill. And 4yrs left .it makes him very valuable.if marner and Mathews get more than 22 mil combined and we nedd two solid defense the writing is on the wall.nylander and kadri plus that 1st could bring in those 2 defense. If nylander is involed it wont happen before july 1st
- ziffles

No.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 9 @ 6:07 PM ET
Dubas is in russia looking at a centre. Is he thinking of moving kadri? Last yr 10 centres in the nhl scored 30 goals the leafs have 3 on thier team. Although leafs wont be able to replace him st 4.5 mill. And 4yrs left .it makes him very valuable.if marner and Mathews get more than 22 mil combined and we nedd two solid defense the writing is on the wall.nylander and kadri plus that 1st could bring in those 2 defense. If nylander is involed it wont happen before july 1st
- ziffles

Clearly
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 9 @ 6:30 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Gritt...tatus/1083137855772413952

paulozz
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 9 @ 6:31 PM ET
BLOCKBUSTER DEAL - PHIL & TOR

To Philly - Nylander, Kadri, Gardiner, 2019 4th (maybe Holl)

To Tor - Simmonds, Couterier, Gostibehere, Myers, 2019 3rd (maybe Gudas)


Kadri & Couterier cancel out each other (great contracts for a few more years)
Maybe they aren't even part of the trade after all - I like Couts more than Kadri
because he's great at faceoffs - better leadership qualities as well.

Simmonds & Gardiner are UFA's they problably wouldn't have signed w/ old team

Soooo - Nylander + 2019 4th for Gostibehere, Myers +2019 3rd
(maybe PHI wants to throw in Gudas to even up the salaries - TOR adds Holl then)
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 9 @ 6:32 PM ET
Clearly
- Symba007



Yeah, Kadri is on one of the best deals in the league right now - if Dubas moved him without needing to (i.e. bringing back a significant piece on D), then he'd be an idiot. And Kyle Dubas is no idiot...
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jan 9 @ 6:42 PM ET

Jonas Siegel

@jonassiegel

Looks like the Leafs have decided to change their power play after all.

New units today:

1: Rielly/Tavares/Marner/Kadri/Kapanen
2: Gardiner/Matthews/Nylander/Johnsson/Marleau

Holy (frank), about time.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 9 @ 6:48 PM ET
Jonas Siegel

@jonassiegel

Looks like the Leafs have decided to change their power play after all.

New units today:

1: Rielly/Tavares/Marner/Kadri/Kapanen
2: Gardiner/Matthews/Nylander/Johnsson/Marleau

Holy (frank), about time.

- gravyface


Pretty stupid to take Matthews off the top PP. Should switch Matthews with Kadri.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 9 @ 6:50 PM ET
Pretty stupid to take Matthews off the top PP. Should switch Matthews with Kadri.
- Unholy_Goalie

It’s a 1A/1B thing.

Which ever line is the most rested will play.

It’ll go back to the old way eventually but it’s just to get it going. The players want to stack the 1st pp but if you ain’t producing it ain’t happening.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jan 9 @ 6:51 PM ET
It’s a 1A/1B thing.

Which ever line is the most rested will play.

It’ll go back to the old way eventually but it’s just to get it going. The players want to stack the 1st pp but if you ain’t producing it ain’t happening.

- Santo_44


Exactly: let Tavares get more touches too. He ran a PP his entire career with the Islanders, spread the love around a bit.

Plus it creates some competition between PP1 and PP2, which isn't a bad thing at all.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 9 @ 7:02 PM ET
man 420 is right around the corner
- zazzle

It’s really not as far fetched as one would think

Leafs will be big players this deadline me thinks.

Next season they can add too....but not without trading away salary or getting a huge bargain.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jan 9 @ 7:07 PM ET
Pretty stupid to take Matthews off the top PP. Should switch Matthews with Kadri.
- Unholy_Goalie

Kadri needs the PP sadly.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 9 @ 7:42 PM ET
Kadri needs the PP sadly.
- AdamFrench


He should be killing penalties instead. Kapanen is 3rd on the team in goals and barely gets PP time, if any.

Matthews should be on the 1st PP. That's just dumb. Taking him off the 1st PP just makes it even easier for teams to shut them down because it's one less dangerous player the PK has to worry about.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 9 @ 7:44 PM ET
It’s a 1A/1B thing.

Which ever line is the most rested will play.

It’ll go back to the old way eventually but it’s just to get it going. The players want to stack the 1st pp but if you ain’t producing it ain’t happening.

- Santo_44


It's a stupid thing. Put the best players together. The problem hasn't been the players on the PP. The problem is what they're doing is predictable. Change the play, change where they are but keep the players the same. Except Kadri. Replace him with either Kapanen or Nylander.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 9 @ 7:46 PM ET
He should be killing penalties instead. Kapanen is 3rd on the team in goals and barely gets PP time, if any.

Matthews should be on the 1st PP. That's just dumb. Taking him off the 1st PP just makes it even easier for teams to shut them down because it's one less dangerous player the PK has to worry about.

- Unholy_Goalie

Precaution for his next contract?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 9 @ 7:47 PM ET
He should be killing penalties instead. Kapanen is 3rd on the team in goals and barely gets PP time, if any.

Matthews should be on the 1st PP. That's just dumb. Taking him off the 1st PP just makes it even easier for teams to shut them down because it's one less dangerous player the PK has to worry about.

- Unholy_Goalie


Not necessarily - it's not just PPs that teams potentially stack, it's PKs too. If your team has one really reliable PK combination, you now have to choose whether you want them to defend JT/MM or AM/WN. There's enough skill to go around, and it's unlikely that a team would keep the same pairs of F/D out there for all 2 minutes.

That said, this could all backfire. But given that the PP has been horrible the last little while, it needed a change, even if just for a short while.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 9 @ 7:55 PM ET
Precaution for his next contract?
- 21peter


Better do it with Marner too.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jan 9 @ 7:57 PM ET
Better do it with Marner too.
- Unholy_Goalie

just scratch the baztard a few games
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jan 9 @ 8:00 PM ET
just scratch the baztard a few games
- 21peter


Matthews' injury could have been a blessing in disguise.

Both will probably cost 20 million combined though.
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