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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 11 @ 12:45 PM ET
There's an unreasonable amount of angst about the free agent Hextall acquired because of the Flyers' gaping hole at LW. He's producing as well as you could expect given his lack of PP1 time. With Giroux back at center, the hole would be extra gaping without JVR.
- Feanor


He's underachieving this year.

And even when he achieves like people "know" he can he's only a 0.45 gpg (0.75 ppg). Big woop. And he doesn't do that often. And he brings nothing to the table other than that, so when that's missing he's useless.

I don't care for players like that.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 11 @ 12:52 PM ET
Around $33M tied up into Jake Stone G JVR, i don't hate it but thats around 40% of an $82M cap.
- ClaudeFather


I would like to move Jake out. Prob not happening
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 11 @ 12:53 PM ET
depends on the players and picks. Andersson would be a nice mentor for Hart...why the hate? he's still pretty good.
- landros 2



Lemme clarify..

If the names Frost, Sanheim, Patrick, Provorov or TK are involved in that deal I lose my mind.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 11 @ 12:54 PM ET
I'd rather offer him 10m per in the offseason than give up 3 1st rounders+
- Glak18


Just to follow up:

I called Comcast yesterday at 4:50, 10 minutes before shift ended. I told a lady what was up, and she just told me that someone in customer solutions would get me set up. Called the dude up, told him what I wanted, and he gave me exactly the package I wanted. Took maybe 10 minutes total.

Of course, the lady I spoke to at 3PM was stone cold and told me she couldn't do a damn thing for me.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 11 @ 12:55 PM ET
Lemme clarify..

If the names Frost, Sanheim, Patrick, Provorov or TK are involved in that deal I lose my mind.

- opeth_pa


We should trade Hart for Anderson so that he can mentor...wait, what?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 11 @ 12:57 PM ET
I love Stone and would like to acquire him but that is basically giving up Simmonds, Farabee and a 1st round pick for Stone. Too rich for my blood.
- MJL


It’s a lot. I’m prob pulling the trigger on a signed stone. Time to trade this acquired quantity for real quality

It’s a shame Ottawa is a sham of an organization. He’s the perfect to lead their youngsters
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 11 @ 1:18 PM ET
Stone will require the selling of a key asset not named Simmonds or Raffl. No thanks
- StepfordSam

Yea, lets just wait for the prospects, it's been going great
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 11 @ 1:22 PM ET
Yea, lets just wait for the prospects, it's been going great
- ClaudeFather


Do you want to just get better or win the Cup?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 11 @ 1:27 PM ET
Do you want to just get better or win the Cup?
- MJL

Trading for Mark Stone would be a step in the right direction, you can't sit on your hands and wish and hope for all these kids. You can get assets back for Simmonds and even trade Jake in the offseason if you'd like. Shakes up the core, adds a great player, and whatever assets/players you get form Jake Simmer.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 11 @ 1:30 PM ET
What is Stone's foot speed like? I dont know if these team and handle another average skater.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 11 @ 1:32 PM ET
Would we consider Duchene, Stone, and Anderson for Voracek, Lindblom, Myers, Nuevirth, Conditional 2020 1st if both Duchene and Stone resign, lottery protected. And Flyers have to be able to talk to players before deal is done to see if they are willing to resign.

Giroux-Couturier-Konecny
JVR-Duchene-Stone

I can live with that top 6 for the next 5 years.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 11 @ 1:33 PM ET
What is Stone's foot speed like? I dont know if these team and handle another average skater.
- youarewrong

He's fast
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 11 @ 1:39 PM ET
It’s a lot. I’m prob pulling the trigger on a signed stone. Time to trade this acquired quantity for real quality

It’s a shame Ottawa is a sham of an organization. He’s the perfect to lead their youngsters

- Just5


He could also be a great leader for our youngsters moving forward. But it’s tough, it would cost a lot.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jan 11 @ 1:42 PM ET
Can someone give me the rundown on Mark Stone and why he is a good addition to pursue? I don;t know much about him other than he has a very good shot and has sniped a few goals on us. I don;t know about his game overall. Speed, hands, d, leadership... Anyone? Serious question. I would like more insight. Looking at his stats he hasn't played more than 80 games in a season and has been around 20 goals and 60 points the past few years.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 11 @ 1:43 PM ET
Do you want to just get better or win the Cup?
- MJL

yes
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jan 11 @ 1:46 PM ET
Its never going to happen but could you imagine next year:

JVR-Giroux-Tarasenko
Panarin-Couturier-Konecny
Farabee-Patrick-Frost
Lindblom-Laughton-ABK

Provorov-Sanheim
Gudas-Ghost
Morin/Hagg-Myers

Hart
????

- youarewrong



Lookd damn good on paper!!!!
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:00 PM ET
Lemme clarify..

If the names Frost, Sanheim, Patrick, Provorov or TK are involved in that deal I lose my mind.

- opeth_pa



I could see them including Frost....although that would shoot my Vorecek theory down the poopter. I don’t see any of those other guys being involved. I guess we’ll see what moves Fletcher makes. I just think a signed/Stone would be a step in the right direction.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:03 PM ET
We know JvR can play around the net.
- MJL


That's my issue, he is good around the net when someone else does all the work to get him the puck...it's when he is not around the other teams net is when he hurts the team.
easY
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.20.2018

Jan 11 @ 2:04 PM ET
Amac has been skating with the team and began practicing and is now day 2 day. Really no reason for Myers to come up for 1 or 2 games.
- Tfaehner

1-2 games up is a great reason
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 11 @ 2:04 PM ET
https://theathletic.com/7...eight-game-losing-streak/

Myers and Aube-Kubel, on the other hand, are young pieces who not only could potentially provide upgrades now, but also need to find places with the big club over the long-term. Both are performing well at the lower level — no AHL defenseman has been more productive offensively at 5-on-5 than Myers, while Aube-Kubel is the best play-driver on the Phantoms. Moreover, the players in their roles with the Flyers — Varone has mostly played center but it wouldn’t be difficult to drop Scott Laughton to 4C and move Raffl up to the third line to accommodate NAK — aren’t exactly blowing the doors off, so call-ups do make a degree of sense.
easY
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.20.2018

Jan 11 @ 2:06 PM ET
He's still one-dimensional and not really doing a good job in that one dimension. He's got a whopping two goals and one assist in his last five games.
- Scoob


Yeah but STATS!!!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:07 PM ET
He's underachieving this year.

And even when he achieves like people "know" he can he's only a 0.45 gpg (0.75 ppg). Big woop. And he doesn't do that often. And he brings nothing to the table other than that, so when that's missing he's useless.

I don't care for players like that.

- Scoob


What I am noticing is it seems people are assuming this year is different than previous years so they base their opinion on his basic stats to justify him. The problem is he had a career year of 36 goals last year, CAREER year, and Leafs fans wanted him gone as soon as possible. I guess they were just jelly of his awesomeness.

That's the problem people can't accept, he is not having a down year. This is how he played last year, but he happened to have 36 goals.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:10 PM ET
I wonder if the Flyers will give Samuel Morin a good look in February, new coaching staff and all...
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 11 @ 2:17 PM ET
https://theathletic.com/761248/2019/01/11/flyers-2-stars-1-10-things-we-learned-from-the-long-awaited-end-to-an-eight-game-losing-streak/
- Feanor


So why do you think they're not up?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:22 PM ET
https://theathletic.com/761248/2019/01/11/flyers-2-stars-1-10-things-we-learned-from-the-long-awaited-end-to-an-eight-game-losing-streak/
- Feanor



Phil Varone has been with the big club for a while. He was the AHL MVP last season.
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