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DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jan 11 @ 2:16 PM ET
Casey Desmith, three year extension $1.25m per year.
- stevens87

DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jan 11 @ 2:21 PM ET
i hope JR doesn't turn around and dump Tristan Jarry for peanuts now
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 11 @ 2:27 PM ET
i hope JR doesn't turn around and dump Tristan Jarry for peanuts now
- DeflatedPucks


Oh yeah, Jarry!....what does this mean for him...next year he's a one-way contract....
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 11 @ 2:30 PM ET
Oh yeah, Jarry!....what does this mean for him...next year he's a one-way contract....
- MattStrat


I think it means he won't be in a Penguins jersey next season. That's the first thing I thought when I saw they signed DeSmith.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 11 @ 2:39 PM ET
I think it means he won't be in a Penguins jersey next season. That's the first thing I thought when I saw they signed DeSmith.
- madmike71



It could also mean they hope to sell high on Murray after this year and roll with DeSmith and Jarry?

Just saying it doesn't mean Jarry is out.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jan 11 @ 2:42 PM ET
It could also mean they hope to sell high on Murray after this year and roll with DeSmith and Jarry?

Just saying it doesn't mean Jarry is out.

- Guile


I can't see that. Jarry is still raw. Even at $3mm and change, Murray comes at a great cap hit for 1 more year. And DeSmith is a solid backup. If the Pens are going on a run this year or next, I still feel its going to come on Murray's back. And there isn't anyone they could get who is equal/better with the same or smaller cap hit.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 11 @ 2:46 PM ET
I can't see that. Jarry is still raw. Even at $3mm and change, Murray comes at a great cap hit for 1 more year. And DeSmith is a solid backup. If the Pens are going on a run this year or next, I still feel its going to come on Murray's back. And there isn't anyone they could get who is equal/better with the same or smaller cap hit.
- DeflatedPucks



Just throwing things out there. I simply dont like writing off Jarry due to this signing.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 11 @ 2:50 PM ET
I can't see that. Jarry is still raw. Even at $3mm and change, Murray comes at a great cap hit for 1 more year. And DeSmith is a solid backup. If the Pens are going on a run this year or next, I still feel its going to come on Murray's back. And there isn't anyone they could get who is equal/better with the same or smaller cap hit.
- DeflatedPucks


Agreed. Locking up DeSmith says to me they've made their choice on tending for the next few years (remaining window) and Jarry will be moved at some point.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jan 11 @ 2:57 PM ET
Agreed. Locking up DeSmith says to me they've made their choice on tending for the next few years (remaining window) and Jarry will be moved at some point.
- madmike71


yea i see this as an all-in-for-the-next-two-year-window move. Kind of perplexed from desmith's side. He's got 40 games under his belt and performed solid if unspectacular. why not test the market? (he was going to be UFA right?) i'm sure there's some team who could have given him 1-2 years for more $

that said, i guess its a good thing he didn't lol.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 11 @ 3:22 PM ET
You still have a shot. There are enough weeks left.
- Feds91Stammer


Ok cool. Hopefully next week will be stronger than this one. Stamkos, Atkinson, Panarin and Aho are letting me down this week.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 11 @ 3:41 PM ET
Oh yeah, Jarry!....what does this mean for him...next year he's a one-way contract....
- MattStrat

Nothing. As of now Jarry isn't playing at a level that would likely see him claimed on waivers.

And if it changes DeSmith's cap hit is almost entirely buriable.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 11 @ 3:43 PM ET
Agreed. Locking up DeSmith says to me they've made their choice on tending for the next few years (remaining window) and Jarry will be moved at some point.
- madmike71


GMJR's last two trades have been pretty decent...so he's due for a dud...the writing is on the wall for a Jarry for Ferland trade...
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Washington, DC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 11 @ 3:48 PM ET
GMJR's last two trades have been pretty decent...so he's due for a dud...the writing is on the wall for a Jarry for Ferland trade...
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I don’t think that’d be a bad trade at all actually and I’m not sure why Carlonia would do it.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 11 @ 3:51 PM ET
I don’t think that’d be a bad trade at all actually and I’m not sure why Carlonia would do it.
- Victoro311


Yeah, it would be a great trade for the Pens, not so much Carolina.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 11 @ 3:52 PM ET
GMJR's last two trades have been pretty decent...so he's due for a dud...the writing is on the wall for a Jarry for Ferland trade...
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Nah. Jarry has shown nothing to be traded for a middle 6 roster player.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 11 @ 4:35 PM ET
GMJR's last two trades have been pretty decent...so he's due for a dud...the writing is on the wall for a Jarry for Ferland trade...
- YouMeAndDupuis9


I'd be a little afraid of trading Jarry before the season is over at the rate Murray gets hurt. JR has always maintained he needs three competent tenders. I think Jarry is competent, but admittedly he hasn't done much.

Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jan 11 @ 4:39 PM ET
Nah. Jarry has shown nothing to be traded for a middle 6 roster player.
- Feds91Stammer


After a few years of hearing how Jarry is going to be the next big time goalie, i'd be nice if he got a solid return.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 11 @ 4:52 PM ET
After a few years of hearing how Jarry is going to be the next big time goalie, i'd be nice if he got a solid return.
- Guile


Alex Nedeljkovic is basically the same guy at this point.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 11 @ 4:53 PM ET
After a few years of hearing how Jarry is going to be the next big time goalie, i'd be nice if he got a solid return.
- Guile

Probably cause he was a higher draft pick he was overhyped. Fucale was the only goalie taken before him and he has been in the ECHL this season.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Washington, DC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 11 @ 4:53 PM ET
After a few years of hearing how Jarry is going to be the next big time goalie, i'd be nice if he got a solid return.
- Guile

Prospect development doesn't always go to plan.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jan 11 @ 5:02 PM ET
I've been dying to see a Pettersson-Oleksik pairing. JO's a talented player who makes poor decisions. Don't like him with Maatta because he lacks the speed to cover for those breakdowns. Pettersson while playing with Johnson has shown good ability to cover up his partner's mistakes. In theory I think they'd blend well but we'd need to see it.

Unfortunately, it's unlikely JJ gets benched and there isn't another great fit for Oleksiak. I still like him as a 3rd pair RD, but I can't really justify keeping him as a 7D at that cap hit especially when we have Riikola.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 11 @ 5:27 PM ET
I think a deal based around JO for Ferland would be pretty fair.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jan 11 @ 5:33 PM ET
I think a deal based around JO for Ferland would be pretty fair.
- Rinosaur

Unless it's to prepare for the rumored Hamilton trade, which I'm not sure I believe, all their defensemen are better than Oleksiak.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Washington, DC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 11 @ 5:41 PM ET
I think a deal based around JO for Ferland would be pretty fair.
- Rinosaur

I don’t think they need another defenseman, let alone a bottom pairing LD.
eNDSo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2016

Jan 11 @ 5:57 PM ET
I dont see anyone giving Jarry a 1 way contract next season.
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