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pucks4all
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jan 11 @ 12:05 PM ET
Stone is a nice player, Anderson is another stop gap. I really hope they don’t overpay.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 11 @ 12:05 PM ET
Ok what's wrong with the trade?
- Halfday77


Everything.... Sens wouldn't get Provorov alone for that package
Halfday77
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.09.2017

Jan 11 @ 12:06 PM ET
Everything.... Sens wouldn't get Provorov alone for that package
- obie


Provorov alone is worth Stone Anderson and lajoie? Did you really just write that?
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 11 @ 12:07 PM ET
Provorov alone is worth Stone Anderson and lajoie? Did you really just write that?
- Halfday77


No, of course not... I said he's worth more
turdadactyl
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.20.2007

Jan 11 @ 12:07 PM ET
Those of you questioning why on earth the Flyers would be buyers need to live in Comcast territory. You can feel that they are tired of empty seats. They even gave away some tix to youth hockey teams yesterday. Comcast wants butts in the seats and they want eyes on the TV. I believe this one.
Halfday77
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.09.2017

Jan 11 @ 12:08 PM ET
No, of course not... I said he's worth more
- obie


Wow lol good talk buddy
mkabbeko
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2013

Jan 11 @ 12:09 PM ET
Why on earth would they give up prospects and roster players when they can just keep doing what they are doing and grab a top 5 pick FOR FREE!

I read that the Flyers need to win an absurd 70% of remaining games to sniff the playoffs. Mark Stone is great but even with him that is not going to happen.

He may ensure that we fall out of the top 5 though.
pucks4all
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jan 11 @ 12:09 PM ET
Those of you questioning why on earth the Flyers would be buyers need to live in Comcast territory. You can feel that they are tired of empty seats. They even gave away some tix to youth hockey teams yesterday. Comcast wants butts in the seats and they want eyes on the TV. I believe this one.
- turdadactyl

Stone and Anderson aren’t bringing me to more games. Especially with winter coming!
JiggsDinner
Montreal Canadiens
Location: st. johns, NF
Joined: 08.27.2010

Jan 11 @ 12:10 PM ET
That is the most insane trade I’ve ever saw.
Wow
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 11 @ 12:11 PM ET
Wow lol good talk buddy
- Halfday77


Not really
Halfday77
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.09.2017

Jan 11 @ 12:12 PM ET
Not really
- obie


Can't argue with stupid
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 11 @ 12:15 PM ET
Can't argue with stupid
- Halfday77


Look at your proposal... and other reactions from other posters...

Stone is a FA, Anderson is washed up and Lajoie could end up being a decent 2nd pairing D... Provorov is a franchise D and you even added Nolan Patrick and a 1st going to Ottawa...

So... shut the hell up, stupid
Cap437
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.30.2017

Jan 11 @ 12:16 PM ET
Can't argue with stupid
- Halfday77


Agreed. Yet here we are.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 11 @ 12:17 PM ET
Why on earth would the Sens want pieces for this year??

But for the sake of argument I'll bite

To PHI

M. Stone 7.35M
C. Anderson 4.75M
M. Lajoie 0.710M
3rd round pick 2020* (OTT owns CLB 3rd round pick 2020, PHI receives highest pick)



To OTT

N. Patrick 0.925M
J. Voracek 8.25M
I. Provorov 0.894M
M. Neuvirth 2.5M
1st round pick 2019
3rd round pick 2020* (becomes 2nd round pick if Stone resigns)

- Halfday77


your not serious....ok...thank god.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 11 @ 12:19 PM ET
your not serious....ok...thank god.
- landros 2


No, he was...
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jan 11 @ 12:20 PM ET
Can't look at a deal for Stone without considering what Duchene and Dzingle will get in a trade.

Ottawa only wants picks and prospects.

I believe the Islanders will get Duchene.

I think Boston and Buffalo will come hard after Stone.

Dzingle is the sleeper. He will bring a better return than most people expect.

I am at a loss at trying to figure out how Philadelphia can justify taking a run at Stone.
Cap437
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.30.2017

Jan 11 @ 12:20 PM ET
Why on earth would the Sens want pieces for this year??

But for the sake of argument I'll bite

To PHI

M. Stone 7.35M
C. Anderson 4.75M
M. Lajoie 0.710M
3rd round pick 2020* (OTT owns CLB 3rd round pick 2020, PHI receives highest pick)



To OTT

N. Patrick 0.925M
J. Voracek 8.25M
I. Provorov 0.894M
M. Neuvirth 2.5M
1st round pick 2019
3rd round pick 2020* (becomes 2nd round pick if Stone resigns)

- Halfday77


You forgot Carter Hart, Morgan Frost and Travis Sanheim.... but to make it fair... please throw in Bobby Ryan.
turdadactyl
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.20.2007

Jan 11 @ 12:22 PM ET
Stone and Anderson aren’t bringing me to more games. Especially with winter coming!
- pucks4all


Probably you and the rest of us. But wins might.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 11 @ 12:22 PM ET
You forgot Carter Hart, Morgan Frost and Travis Sanheim.... but to make it fair... please throw in Bobby Ryan.
- Cap437


Don't be stupid... Ottawa will trade Ryan in a separate trade to Buffalo for Eichel and Dahlin
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jan 11 @ 12:22 PM ET
Want zero parts of Bob and they will never make the playoffs this year.
- bird_dog_pa


They're just not making the playoffs no matter what moves they make.

Hughes.

- FlyerFan16

Hughes
- 2Real


Looks like the Flyers' fans I heard from they see the writing on the wall.

The Flyers have some really good YOUNG pieces, obviously Nolan Patrick being on that list. I don't think they need Hughes, that said, what a uphill climb to get back in the playoffs. It will likely exhaust them too (like the Sens in 2016) and they'll be bounced in the first round.

So I agree, if I'm a Flyer's fan, I make some moves at the deadline with the future (next year in mind) if you added Hughes to this group, and they were able to move a big contract like JVR or Voracek - not saying they will or can - then this team would be a serious contender for years to come. But they'll need someone to come in for a year or two until Hart is ready
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Jan 11 @ 12:25 PM ET
Why on earth would the Sens want pieces for this year??

But for the sake of argument I'll bite

To PHI

M. Stone 7.35M
C. Anderson 4.75M
M. Lajoie 0.710M
3rd round pick 2020* (OTT owns CLB 3rd round pick 2020, PHI receives highest pick)



To OTT

N. Patrick 0.925M
J. Voracek 8.25M
I. Provorov 0.894M
M. Neuvirth 2.5M
1st round pick 2019
3rd round pick 2020* (becomes 2nd round pick if Stone resigns)

- Halfday77


This trade proposal just gave me herpes (again)
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Jan 11 @ 12:29 PM ET
To AlfieIsKing:

I know 8 games is a small sample size, but to my eyes Hart looks ready.

Unless somebody overpays, moving out JVR or Voracek would be regrettable. Lots of good seasons left on those two and the contracts are at a price Philly can afford.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jan 11 @ 12:33 PM ET
Looks like the Flyers' fans I heard from they see the writing on the wall.

The Flyers have some really good YOUNG pieces, obviously Nolan Patrick being on that list. I don't think they need Hughes, that said, what a uphill climb to get back in the playoffs. It will likely exhaust them too (like the Sens in 2016) and they'll be bounced in the first round.

So I agree, if I'm a Flyer's fan, I make some moves at the deadline with the future (next year in mind) if you added Hughes to this group, and they were able to move a big contract like JVR or Voracek - not saying they will or can - then this team would be a serious contender for years to come. But they'll need someone to come in for a year or two until Hart is ready

- AlfieisKing


You can actually develop a rationale for a team like the Flyers to use the trade deadline to grab talent for next year. Stone has been exceptional with the kids. He is a really strong character on and off the ice. The Flyers have some great young pieces and Stone would be a really good fit. But, it would be crazy for the Flyers to give up a 1st round pick and prospect at this point in their development.

A team like the Islanders, for example, are able to offer a mid round 1st, a good prospect and a roster player. I just don't see how the Flyers could structure a deal unless they involved a third team in the deal.
B-Wforever
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 09.16.2010

Jan 11 @ 12:38 PM ET
Stone just looks like a flyer type player so it makes sense that they would go after him no matter where they are in the standings.

What would Philly offer up in return for Stone/Anderson reasonably given stone is a UFA and understanding this is more about the future than this year?

I could see Travis Konekny as being the roster player, either Jay O'brien or Morgan Frost, and then
1) a conditional first round pick: if Stone signs an extension.
2) A separate conditional second round pick: if the Flyers make the playoffs

I would guess Neuvirth would be thrown in for Anderson in a swap of under achievers.

riceroni
Ottawa Senators
Location: e5, ON
Joined: 07.29.2009

Jan 11 @ 12:42 PM ET
Why on earth would the Sens want pieces for this year??

But for the sake of argument I'll bite

To PHI

M. Stone 7.35M
C. Anderson 4.75M
M. Lajoie 0.710M
3rd round pick 2020* (OTT owns CLB 3rd round pick 2020, PHI receives highest pick)



To OTT

N. Patrick 0.925M
J. Voracek 8.25M
I. Provorov 0.894M
M. Neuvirth 2.5M
1st round pick 2019
3rd round pick 2020* (becomes 2nd round pick if Stone resigns)

- Halfday77

That would be an incredible deal for the Sens...

I think a more reasonable offer would be Stone + SJS 2nd 2019 for Philly 1st 2020 + Provorov or Patrick
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