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RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:24 PM ET
Waive Elie, sit the legend, play Smith, profit
- jcragcrumple


Sold Americano
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 11 @ 2:27 PM ET
Wilson or Girgs can sit
- RhinoFan


I expect Wilson up after the break. I don't sit Girgs for Smith, not regularly.


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:27 PM ET
I wonder if he wears a cape and flies.
- Der Kaiser



I think the Cape and goal scoring went away when they removed pommer from the eichel line.

Pommer has 9 goals 9 assists // 36 years old
Erod has 2 goals 10 assists // 25 years old

Pommer banked us points this season.
Like him or not

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:30 PM ET
Waive Elie, sit the legend, play Smith, profit
- jcragcrumple



Erod hits the press box before the legend does


Are we comparing points
Pommer 18
Erod 12

Or goals ?

Pommer 9
Erod 2

Pick your agenda
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 11 @ 2:30 PM ET
#agenda

Goals are important, please stop pretending that it's ok for erod to have 2 goals on the season.

Especially when angry larry has 4
And is now the 2c for tonight.

That pretty much says it all

- Boss34


My agenda is advocating for 4th liners who score 20 points, which I've shown is average/good

Dats it
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jan 11 @ 2:33 PM ET
I thought of you fondly as I posted that. Helmet and all.
- RhinoFan

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 11 @ 2:35 PM ET
My agenda is advocating for 4th liners who score 20 points, which I've shown is average/good

Dats it

- jcragcrumple


When the 2nd and 3rd lines aren't producing at a reasonable pace, I don't even look at the 4th line, especially when they are carrying the team defensively.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:38 PM ET
My agenda is advocating for 4th liners who score 20 points, which I've shown is average/good

Dats it

- jcragcrumple



Ok, I thought you were pretending erod was good again?

1 season Pommer at 25 years old 82gp 27 goals 53 assists 80 points.

Erod entire career at 25 years old combined scoring:
gp 117 14 goals 31 assists
45 career points.

I think Phil sits erod again, over pommer
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Jan 11 @ 2:39 PM ET
I prefer to think of myself as a soup sandwich.
- Der Kaiser



Ate up like a soup sandwich. Sh!t bag.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:40 PM ET
I think the Cape and goal scoring went away when they removed pommer from the eichel line.

Pommer has 9 goals 9 assists // 36 years old
Erod has 2 goals 10 assists // 25 years old

Pommer banked us points this season.
Like him or not

- Boss34


Yes, and in multivolume set Boss' Fairy Tales he also serves as an assistant GM who tells Botts when to get rid of the players who are someone deemed toxic, whispers deep and abiding truths into the ears of our naive clueless youngins, serves as a flawless role model for playoff hockey (how NOT to win the Cup, I guess), and casts an aurora all through the community. I'm waiting to see the post where you tell us he probably walks onto Lake Erie to settle the waters during violent storms.

Do you remember when this guy was captain? The team was the definition of mediocrity? Have you ever seen him take the team on his back EVER? I have seen more leadership out of Jack in one season that I saw from Pommer in his entire career. Hell, I saw more leadership out of Zemgus Girgensons.

You're wrong about Pommer. He's a nice guy. He had a nice career. But he's not a living legend, you're fantasizing with this idea that Botterill is relying on him as the prototype of a playoff professional, and it's time for the franchise to move on from a guy who just can't do it anymore.

Remember when Jack not only looked up to Matt Molson but lived with him, and played with his kids??? Matt Molson's career is what happens to guys who are respected, but incapable of getting it done.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:45 PM ET
Yes, and in multivolume set Boss' Fairy Tales he also serves as an assistant GM who tells Botts when to get rid of the players who are someone deemed toxic, whispers deep and abiding truths into the ears of our naive clueless youngins, serves as a flawless role model for playoff hockey (how NOT to win the Cup, I guess), and casts an aurora all through the community. I'm waiting to see the post where you tell us he probably walks onto Lake Erie to settle the waters during violent storms.

Do you remember when this guy was captain? The team was the definition of mediocrity? Have you ever seen him take the team on his back EVER? I have seen more leadership out of Jack in one season that I saw from Pommer in his entire career. Hell, I saw more leadership out of Zemgus Girgensons.

You're wrong about Pommer. He's a nice guy. He had a nice career. But he's not a living legend, you're fantasizing with this idea that Botterill is relying on him as the prototype of a playoff professional, and it's time for the franchise to move on from a guy who just can't do it anymore.

Remember when Jack not only looked up to Matt Molson but lived with him, and played with his kids??? That's where you wind up being respected, but incapable of getting it done.

- Der Kaiser



Seriously, great well thought out post.
😀
Funny too


I'm not pretending pommer has done anything on the ice in 2 months. His leadership is important. If nothing else, hes not dividing the lockerroom. Being a Richard

But, I'm sure you watched the games when 53-15-29 helped us bank points for 3 weeks?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 11 @ 2:48 PM ET
When the 2nd and 3rd lines aren't producing at a reasonable pace, I don't even look at the 4th line, especially when they are carrying the team defensively.
- Lunaion


So if you break your arm, do you ignore your broken leg?
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:49 PM ET
I expect Wilson up after the break. I don't sit Girgs for Smith, not regularly.
- Lunaion


Really?

Thought Smith has been better than Girgs in almost all facets thus far. Is that wrong?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:50 PM ET
So if you break your arm, do you ignore your broken leg?
- jcragcrumple


🙂

No, but do you complain more about the injury that hurts more?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 11 @ 2:50 PM ET
Really?

Thought Smith has been better than Girgs in almost all facets thus far. Is that wrong?

- RhinoFan

Have they played the same role?
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:50 PM ET
Ok, I thought you were pretending erod was good again?

1 season Pommer at 25 years old 82gp 27 goals 53 assists 80 points.

Erod entire career at 25 years old combined scoring:
gp 117 14 goals 31 assists
45 career points.

I think Phil sits erod again, over pommer

- Boss34


So now you're comparing E-Rod today to Pommer 11 years ago as justification to play him more? That is rich.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:51 PM ET
Seriously, great well thought out post.
😀
Funny too


I'm not pretending pommer has done anything on the ice in 2 months. His leadership is important. If nothing else, hes not dividing the lockerroom. Being a Richard

But, I'm sure you watched the games when 53-15-29 helped us bank points for 3 weeks?

- Boss34


Yes, I watched those games. I recall that during those games other players contributed secondary scoring and we didn't rely solely on the 1st line to win games. It seems to me that anyone who has rode along with Jack and Skinny has done well, but our secondary scoring has dropped off since Pommer joined those ranks.

What point did you take from those games that is relevant to the team right now, and what about those games tells you that our best hope for success includes Pommer on the ice over other guys in the system?
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:51 PM ET
Have they played the same role?
- sbroads24


No. Smith played up, but his defense didn't seem to be an eyesore. With Jack back we can use him as the 2nd PK unit to cover for Girgs. You don't think that works?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:51 PM ET
So now you're comparing E-Rod today to 11 years ago as justification to play him more? That is rich.
- RhinoFan


Why do you keep responding to my posts?

Just ignore them like everyone else
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Jan 11 @ 2:52 PM ET
Why do you keep responding to my posts?

Just ignore them like everyone else

- Boss34



Build a wall around his comments.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:53 PM ET
Build a wall around his comments.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


A wheel works, and a wall works. Sh"t bag.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:57 PM ET
Why do you keep responding to my posts?

Just ignore them like everyone else

- Boss34


Same reason you keep posting nonsense, because I like to.

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 11 @ 2:57 PM ET
No. Smith played up, but his defense didn't seem to be an eyesore. With Jack back we can use him as the 2nd PK unit to cover for Girgs. You don't think that works?
- RhinoFan

I like Smith, I just think Girgs plays over him
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:57 PM ET
Build a wall around his comments.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


There are conflicting reports on the effectiveness of physical barriers.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 11 @ 2:57 PM ET
Yes, I watched those games. I recall that during those games other players contributed secondary scoring and we didn't rely solely on the 1st line to win games. It seems to me that anyone who has rode along with Jack and Skinny has done well, but our secondary scoring has dropped off since Pommer joined those ranks.

What point did you take from those games that is relevant to the team right now, and what about those games tells you that our best hope for success includes Pommer on the ice over other guys in the system?

- Der Kaiser


Pommer still gives %100 effort.
Just like every other secondary scorer, he is in a slump and not scoring.

I'm not advocating for the Sabres to extend him next year.

Just let him ride off into the sunset.

I'm not sure why/how you do not see the need for a veteran presence on our super young team?


He is a +5. Not hurting the team . Who's gonna come in and score more at 10 minutes a night?
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