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I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jan 13 @ 12:04 AM ET
Did the hawks lead in blocked shots, by a wide margin?
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 12:06 AM ET
Did the hawks lead in blocked shots, by a wide margin?
- I Am The Breadman


19-10 still gave up 33 sog's
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jan 13 @ 12:09 AM ET
19-10 still gave up 33 sog's
- bogiedoc


I just looked it up, thanks though, Bogie. Yeah, still a lot of shots. Also 10 giveaways with Vegas having 8.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 12:12 AM ET
bad teams don't get blown out every night; although as we know they have had their share of those

bad teams lose games early or late: that is they are chasing the game or cough up 3rd period goals to lose or OT; in another words they lose alot of 1 goal games

4-13 in 1 goal games including OT...
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 12:16 AM ET
playoff dreamers look at the hawks being 6-7 pts out of playoff spot...

this was not, is not and will not be a playoff team this year...

they are 15th in the conference with 6 teams in front of them...

let's just see if they improve their team defense and blueline play over the the last 35 games...that would be nice to see...
matt_ahrens
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Jan 13 @ 12:18 AM ET
The Blackhawks have only scored 4 or more goals 12 times this season. But six of those times were in the first 10 games. Which means they've only scored 4 or more goals six times in the past 37 games. It's hard to win many games with that scoring.

Edit 2nd time: the good news is that they're 10 - 1 -1 when they score four or more.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Jan 13 @ 12:19 AM ET
you are strange one...delia faced 160 plus shot in last 4 games and your pining for forsberg as guy would could help....WOW...you are drinking to much red/white/black koolaid...
- bogiedoc

Wow yourself Explain to me why Forsberg who was by far the better Goalie out of training camp was regulated to back -up as Ward posted a .867 SV% .Then exposed to waver. More Q stink still left on this team ,he should have been let go after the draft hissy fit .
Stan has a lot of work to do to fix all the damage Q left in his wake .. Shame ..
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 13 @ 12:19 AM ET
bad teams don't get blown out every night; although as we know they have had their share of those

bad teams lose games early or late: that is they are chasing the game or cough up 3rd period goals to lose or OT; in another words they lose alot of 1 goal games

4-13 in 1 goal games including OT...

- bogiedoc


Sometimes “bad” teams are too young and inexperienced to know how to win. Even with the likes of Kane, Toews, Keith, Seabrook out there.

Let’s hope that given those four, Colliton and his staff can teach them how.

This is a dramatically improve team from the November / early December edition. And some of the most promising young players haven’t even hit the AHL yet.
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jan 13 @ 1:05 AM ET
Great to see the Stan Bowman Hawks on full tilt tonight -

So 2 on Dahlstrom and only one on Gus...nothing like trying to skate it out 1 on 3. It's a darn shame they traded Manning - they really could have used him tonight.

Kane with a couple - oh yeah that disallowed one - where's Wes McCauley when you need him...

Up 3 to 1 you knew the Hawks would find a way to blow it and they did.

Goal with under a minute left in a period - check
nursing a one goal lead all third period only to have the other team tie it late - check
give it up in OT at home - check...
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jan 13 @ 1:17 AM ET
playoff dreamers look at the hawks being 6-7 pts out of playoff spot...

this was not, is not and will not be a playoff team this year...

they are 15th in the conference with 6 teams in front of them...

let's just see if they improve their team defense and blueline play over the the last 35 games...that would be nice to see...

- bogiedoc


Hey Bogie..hope you and your family are well in the new year...you'll have to forgive Old duff I'm sure he's pining for Rundblad or Panik to be brought back in another stellar move by Bowman...the defensive trainwreck which could have been upgraded last offseason continues. But Stan got his man in Brandon Manning (gone) or resigning Rutta (gone) or his stellar #2 center in Schmaltz (gone)...and let's not forget that stellar deal for Seabs (don't get me wrong #7 was huge during the run - how bout when he sat the capt. down in Detroit in that series). But that contract like most things Bowman touches ends up as a dumpster fire.

Hey at least the PP is working a bit yet they're still losing...embrace the tank and

#CutCody

BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 13 @ 1:25 AM ET
And get him off of his off-side. Experiment over.

Agree, Dahlstrom is slow.

- I Am The Breadman


Without a doubt, he looked so awkward
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 13 @ 1:28 AM ET
Honestly that's 2 out of 3 games Saad does something stupid and it costs the Blackhawks a point
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jan 13 @ 1:57 AM ET
Jokiharju with only 12:39 TOI, less than Seabrook's 15:20. I really don't get it.

and, of course, Delia, who up until then had been consistently dropping to his knees too early, lets in the GWG through the five hole.

- matt_ahrens


Makes even less sense when you see this (from Laz in The Athletic)

no matter where he’s been, Jokiharju has played well. More importantly, he’s made every partner he’s had better.

Keith? He has a 54.33 percent Corsi with Jokiharju. Without him: 48.09.

Erik Gustafsson? He has a 55.09 percent Corsi with Jokiharju. Without him: 49.37.

Brandon Manning? He had a 55.06 percent Corsi with Jokiharju. Without him: 45.56.

And in much smaller sample sizes, Gustav Forsling and Connor Murphy have seen their possession numbers rise when paired with Jokiharju.

“He’s like (Patrick Kane) — very confident in themselves,” Keith said. “Borderline cocky. No, I’m just kidding. I’ve enjoyed it with Joks — sitting with him on the plane and talking hockey with him. Finally found a guy who likes to talk as much hockey as I do. That’s fun. But I think he’s just going to get better and better as he goes along. … The biggest thing with him is his desire to get better.”
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 1:59 AM ET
Hey Bogie..hope you and your family are well in the new year...you'll have to forgive Old duff I'm sure he's pining for Rundblad or Panik to be brought back in another stellar move by Bowman...the defensive trainwreck which could have been upgraded last offseason continues. But Stan got his man in Brandon Manning (gone) or resigning Rutta (gone) or his stellar #2 center in Schmaltz (gone)...and let's not forget that stellar deal for Seabs (don't get me wrong #7 was huge during the run - how bout when he sat the capt. down in Detroit in that series). But that contract like most things Bowman touches ends up as a dumpster fire.

Hey at least the PP is working a bit yet they're still losing...embrace the tank and

#CutCody

- DK002


pp is better...but its only enough to lose by 1 goal instead 2 or 3...

but yeah forsberg in goal would make a huge difference...yeah they would have worse record...
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Jan 13 @ 2:08 AM ET
Honestly that's 2 out of 3 games Saad does something stupid and it costs the Blackhawks a point
- BetweenTheDots


Put aside the merits or lack thereof regarding Saad for Panarin, and consider the question of whether he is a fit here...

He was shipped in the midst of negotiations that got crazy. He thought he was settled in Columbus, and then he gets whisked back to the team that decided to break up with him. Now he comes back, and finds that Toews is playing hurt, and Hossa is gone. The possess the puck forever line is no more. And the team is completely in flux.

When he is on, he does that rush over the blue line at full bore, like the NHL equivalent of Earl Campbell. I rarely see that now. We see him being put on the third line now. And he has to be wondering why he was brought back. I think he would thrive in the right environment. Not sure it is here.
matt_ahrens
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Jan 13 @ 2:25 AM ET
Put aside the merits or lack thereof regarding Saad for Panarin, and consider the question of whether he is a fit here...

He was shipped in the midst of negotiations that got crazy. He thought he was settled in Columbus, and then he gets whisked back to the team that decided to break up with him. Now he comes back, and finds that Toews is playing hurt, and Hossa is gone. The possess the puck forever line is no more. And the team is completely in flux.

When he is on, he does that rush over the blue line at full bore, like the NHL equivalent of Earl Campbell. I rarely see that now. We see him being put on the third line now. And he has to be wondering why he was brought back. I think he would thrive in the right environment. Not sure it is here.

- 333inthe3rd


Saad has always been streaky. He had a good first game last season but then he didn't have more goals in any other month than he did in the first game. His scoring rate hasn't been much different this year. Q benching him got his attention and his play improved but he hasn't been able to sustain his play.

His contract expires after the 2020-2021 season. I'd expect he'll get focused for a contract run before then, especially next year and the year after. I'd be tempted to hold on to him to see what he can do. He'll need some support/coaching to get there. I'm not sure who he listens to. Maybe Hossa could coach him (except he's the property of Arizona.)

Sooner, rather than later, DeBrincat needs to be on a line with Strome and Kane (BTW: did Strome get injured tonight? Kruger was centering Kane and AA at the end.) So the Blackhawks could use a top six RW to play with the Captain. Ideally Saad is the LW on that line.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Jan 13 @ 3:07 AM ET
Saad has always been streaky. He had a good first game last season but then he didn't have more goals in any other month than he did in the first game. His scoring rate hasn't been much different this year. Q benching him got his attention and his play improved but he hasn't been able to sustain his play.

His contract expires after the 2020-2021 season. I'd expect he'll get focused for a contract run before then, especially next year and the year after. I'd be tempted to hold on to him to see what he can do. He'll need some support/coaching to get there. I'm not sure who he listens to. Maybe Hossa could coach him (except he's the property of Arizona.)

Sooner, rather than later, DeBrincat needs to be on a line with Strome and Kane (BTW: did Strome get injured tonight? Kruger was centering Kane and AA at the end.) So the Blackhawks could use a top six RW to play with the Captain. Ideally Saad is the LW on that line.

- matt_ahrens


Agreed on DBC with Kane. How many more one-timers do we need to see from them on the PP before that happens?

As for Strome:

Tracey Myers
@Tramyers_NHL
Strome didn't play final seven minutes of regulation but not hurt. Colliton: "I think he missed a shift or two. It’s nothing on him. Krugs is playing well and we’re trying to lock down a game." #Blackhawks
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jan 13 @ 8:05 AM ET
Lol so JC has reached the point of being desperate enough to overthink the end of hockey games.

Delia was fine. All those goals were poor coverage on the back side or rebounds.

Vegas much better team. Controlled at least two thirds of that game.

FWIW Patrick Kane having his best season ever with out a wee Russian on his off side. Pretty sure that bromance isnt necessary and Debrincat can do more or less the same crap (stand in circles and rip one timers) for fewer monies.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jan 13 @ 8:05 AM ET
Wow yourself Explain to me why Forsberg who was by far the better Goalie out of training camp was regulated to back -up as Ward posted a .867 SV% .Then exposed to waver. More Q stink still left on this team ,he should have been let go after the draft hissy fit .
Stan has a lot of work to do to fix all the damage Q left in his wake .. Shame ..

- oldduffman


Delia is better and Ward is a veteran.
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Jan 13 @ 8:12 AM ET
Lol so JC has reached the point of being desperate enough to overthink the end of hockey games.

Delia was fine. All those goals were poor coverage on the back side or rebounds.

Vegas much better team. Controlled at least two thirds of that game.

FWIW Patrick Kane having his best season ever with out a wee Russian on his off side. Pretty sure that bromance isnt necessary and Debrincat can do more or less the same crap (stand in circles and rip one timers) for fewer monies.

- fattybeef


I do like the fact the boys snuck out to a 2 goal lead and stand by my assertion this team is:
a.) building chemistry with what they have, and;
B.) actually not too many pieces away from being a real Cup contender.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jan 13 @ 8:41 AM ET
Lol so JC has reached the point of being desperate enough to overthink the end of hockey games.

Delia was fine. All those goals were poor coverage on the back side or rebounds.

Vegas much better team. Controlled at least two thirds of that game.

FWIW Patrick Kane having his best season ever with out a wee Russian on his off side. Pretty sure that bromance isnt necessary and Debrincat can do more or less the same crap (stand in circles and rip one timers) for fewer monies.

- fattybeef


If the Hawks do decide to spend money in the offseason, hoping they don't bring Arty back.

I think he'd be a bit of a redundancy on this team and would rather see them go after Stone or some guys in general that play a bit tougher 200 ft game.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jan 13 @ 9:16 AM ET
If the Hawks do decide to spend money in the offseason, hoping they don't bring Arty back.

I think he'd be a bit of a redundancy on this team and would rather see them go after Stone or some guys in general that play a bit tougher 200 ft game.

- HawkintheD

Not heartbroken we lost. Hope the higher ups realize this isn't a playoff contender. Reading up on Keith/Joker relationship, it seems less likely they'll move him. Thinking we'll see AA, Kunitz, and maybe Kruger moved however given how JC leaned on Kruger in the 4th, perhaps he sticks around too and is re-signed.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jan 13 @ 9:32 AM ET
If the Hawks do decide to spend money in the offseason, hoping they don't bring Arty back.

I think he'd be a bit of a redundancy on this team and would rather see them go after Stone or some guys in general that play a bit tougher 200 ft game.

- HawkintheD


Stone would be cool. Though looks like he's played 82 games never. May be something to think about.

I dunno. I think they should be medicore for one more year then go balls deep one the Seattle team poaches players from everyone's roster.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jan 13 @ 10:07 AM ET
Stone would be cool. Though looks like he's played 82 games never. May be something to think about.

I dunno. I think they should be medicore for one more year then go balls deep one the Seattle team poaches players from everyone's roster.

- fattybeef



I waited about 40 years for them to win one, so suffering through a couple seasons of mediocre hockey with some players better than the ABC line while they rebuild? Could be worse.

Hadn't looked that up as far as Stone not playing an entire season but interesting point, especially for a guy who could garner $9M.
67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jan 13 @ 10:15 AM ET
Lol so JC has reached the point of being desperate enough to overthink the end of hockey games.

Delia was fine. All those goals were poor coverage on the back side or rebounds.

Vegas much better team. Controlled at least two thirds of that game.

FWIW Patrick Kane having his best season ever with out a wee Russian on his off side. Pretty sure that bromance isnt necessary and Debrincat can do more or less the same crap (stand in circles and rip one timers) for fewer monies.

- fattybeef



Yes Delia is not our problem right now. I like him as our future in goal.

As for Panarin, I do not think this team is in a position to be handing out a long term fat contract to a player turning 28 when the next season starts. We have enough of that hurting us now.

That single point hurt us when most of the tank teams were taking 2 last night. What a log jam though in the tank standings!
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