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I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jan 13 @ 1:32 PM ET
Stone is a great player, but tbh, I’m not sure this team is close enough to being a contender even with Stone to justify the kind of cap commitment it would take to sign him.
- Ogilthorpe2


Agree, not enough top 6 talent, too much 4th line players, defense needs a little bit of help, and goaltending has been good, but will be a question mark over the summer. Close, just not there yet, haha. Keeping that glass half full optimism.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 13 @ 1:35 PM ET
You forgot the red font. Do we really want Dutch? Isn't he supposed to be a cancer in the room, or is that made up blog fodder?
- Acur81

Who cares. He definitely won't be worth the money he wants. Also, beware the career year on the last year of a contract.


StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 13 @ 1:57 PM ET
I agree Panarin money could be better spent.

But - they only have 3 proven quality top-6 skaters - including Strome (who some wouldn’t include) and excluding Saad (who in a year and a half hasn’t shown that top-6 skill he once had) and Kahun.

Three goal scorers on the team - and Toews has only two goals (and 9 assists) in his last 13 games.

And not much scoring help in the system, I think - maybe Sikura, maybe Entwistle, maybe (probably not) Ejdsell. Maybe.

They need top-Forward help as much as anything.

- StLBravesFan


To amend my top-6 - it’s 4 with Strome, 3 without him (and again, he’s not proven to all to be top-6) - still only 3 scorers.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jan 13 @ 2:53 PM ET
ROSTER MOVES: Defenseman Brandon Davidson has been assigned to the Rockford IceHogs. #Blackhawks⁠ ⁠
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 13 @ 3:04 PM ET
Put aside the merits or lack thereof regarding Saad for Panarin, and consider the question of whether he is a fit here...

He was shipped in the midst of negotiations that got crazy. He thought he was settled in Columbus, and then he gets whisked back to the team that decided to break up with him. Now he comes back, and finds that Toews is playing hurt, and Hossa is gone. The possess the puck forever line is no more. And the team is completely in flux.

When he is on, he does that rush over the blue line at full bore, like the NHL equivalent of Earl Campbell. I rarely see that now. We see him being put on the third line now. And he has to be wondering why he was brought back. I think he would thrive in the right environment. Not sure it is here.

- 333inthe3rd


What im seeing is very simple, when Hossa and Toews were his line mates he looked great the 2015 season, without Hossa and Toews i didn't realize he doesn't think the game, he may be smart have a high IQ but not for the game of hockey he's as dumb as they come.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 13 @ 3:06 PM ET
FWIW Toews played a much better game last night, if he played like that vs Calgary and Nashville we would of had a better chance of winning those games.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jan 13 @ 3:35 PM ET
What im seeing is very simple, when Hossa and Toews were his line mates he looked great the 2015 season, without Hossa and Toews i didn't realize he doesn't think the game, he may be smart have a high IQ but not for the game of hockey he's as dumb as they come.
- BetweenTheDots



They need to simplify things for Saad. He is built for the power forecheck/go to the net style. He would thrive in the Vegas system. Guy is built like a tank and has great wheels. Vegas again showing that middle of the road top 9 style guys can get it done. Its a team effort. 5 up and 5 back. Hawks team still has not shown the ability to get down low/dirty and really scrap for it. Too many teams apply the physical pressure and the Hawks vanish.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Jan 13 @ 3:38 PM ET
Stone is a great player, but tbh, I’m not sure this team is close enough to being a contender even with Stone to justify the kind of cap commitment it would take to sign him.
- Ogilthorpe2

Fair enough I believe this team is closer then many think .Goaltending could be a tough spot to solve ,should bring Forsberg up for a look .Ward should be moved if possibly (NMC) EDM might bite for a 3rd or better . At least we get a look a prospect they still control .
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 3:39 PM ET
What have you seen out of Perlini to make you think he should be resigned?
- Ogilthorpe2



i know you are not asking me...but my answer: nothing = cya
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jan 13 @ 3:47 PM ET
"Right now is a great time to go through a ticket broker or a seconday website," said Max Waisvisz of Gold Coast Tickets. "Tickets are all discounted."

Waisvisz said with the Bulls and Blackhawks struggling, most ticket sellers are ready to settle for something than nothing.

Secondary ticket sites like StubHub and Vivid Seats are selling tickets to Blackhawks games for $16 each, with plenty of seats in the $30 range.

Even with ticket prices falling to their lowest levels in years, we still found plenty of empty seats at the United Center on Wednesday night as the Blackhawks hosted the Nashville Predators.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 3:52 PM ET
ROSTER MOVES: Defenseman Brandon Davidson has been assigned to the Rockford IceHogs. #Blackhawks⁠ ⁠
- walleyeb1



makes room for their prized acq for rutta, former TB #1 (10th overall 2012) Slater Koekkoek.

stanbow once again going fishing for another teams #1 castoffs...he is an RFA...who knows maybe he sticks around for the rest of the season


bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 3:55 PM ET
Fair enough I believe this team is closer then many think .Goaltending could be a tough spot to solve ,should bring Forsberg up for a look .Ward should be moved if possibly (NMC) EDM might bite for a 3rd or better . At least we get a look a prospect they still control .
- oldduffman


close enough to what: maybe an 85 pt season; right now on pace for 72...
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jan 13 @ 4:17 PM ET
3rd set of Second City Hockey Top 25 Under 25 list (11-15):

25, Kayumov (rank last time 15)
24, Hayden (11)
23, Hagel (NR)
22, Soderlund (20)
21, Hillman (18)

20, Carlsson (14)
19, Forsling (6)
18, Nordgren (24)
17, Krys (13)
16, Dahlstrom (23)

15, Entwistle (NR)
14, Barratt (NR)
13, Kampf (17)
12, Wise (10)
11, Perlini (NR)

https://www.secondcityhoc...-david-kampf-evan-barratt

Quote from Bowman about Entwistle emphasizes his true value as a potential impact forward that isn't based on offense.

"He’s not just one of these young guys who tries to score all the time,” Bowman said. “He had a pretty good year offensively, but you talk to coaches and they appreciate the way he cares about being on the penalty kill, taking important faceoffs, blocking shots, really supporting his team and not always trying to get the breakaway and score the goal."
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jan 13 @ 4:26 PM ET
3rd set of Second City Hockey Top 25 Under 25 list (11-15):

25, Kayumov (rank last time 15)
24, Hayden (11)
23, Hagel (NR)
22, Soderlund (20)
21, Hillman (18)

20, Carlsson (14)
19, Forsling (6)
18, Nordgren (24)
17, Krys (13)
16, Dahlstrom (23)

15, Entwistle (NR)
14, Barratt (NR)
13, Kampf (17)
12, Wise (10)
11, Perlini (NR)

https://www.secondcityhoc...-david-kampf-evan-barratt

Quote from Bowman about Entwistle emphasizes his true value as a potential impact forward that isn't based on offense.

"He’s not just one of these young guys who tries to score all the time,” Bowman said. “He had a pretty good year offensively, but you talk to coaches and they appreciate the way he cares about being on the penalty kill, taking important faceoffs, blocking shots, really supporting his team and not always trying to get the breakaway and score the goal."

- AEL_Fox


Good stuff, AEL. Does Entwistle project as a top 6?
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jan 13 @ 4:38 PM ET
Good stuff, AEL. Does Entwistle project as a top 6?
- I Am The Breadman

I would say no. Bottom 6, and most likely at center but able to play wing. Potential fixture on the PK and a guy who the coaches may rely on in key defensive situations including to close out games.

Whether or not he earns an A on his jersey, I'd also venture to say he would be a leader in the locker room and a coaches dream (listens to feedback, fulfills his role to a T, does the little things to help the team win).
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jan 13 @ 4:39 PM ET
Let’s see, HOF head coach Q plays 19 year old phenom on the 1st pair in his 1st NHL season, and pairs him with his HOF defenseman.

Jokiharju goes on to have the best underlying stats of any Hawk D man. Plus, he makes every partner that he plays with better.

Jokiharju then leads his home country to the gold medal of the World Juniors, logging the most minutes on his team.

Jokiharju comes back to the Hawks, brimming with confidence. Rookie HC sticks him on the 3rd pair, then decides to experiment with him playing his off side.

Would someone please explain to me what the F JC is doing, and why he is an NHL HC?
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jan 13 @ 4:40 PM ET
I agree Panarin money could be better spent.

But - they only have 3 proven quality top-6 skaters - including Strome (who some wouldn’t include) and excluding Saad (who in a year and a half hasn’t shown that top-6 skill he once had) and Kahun.

Three goal scorers on the team - and Toews has only two goals (and 9 assists) in his last 13 games.

And not much scoring help in the system, I think - maybe Sikura, maybe Entwistle, maybe (probably not) Ejdsell. Maybe.

They need top-Forward help as much as anything.

- StLBravesFan



Sign stone to 6 years 8 -9 million per year trade AA for bottom six help sign a veteran d man and veteran goaltender bring back ward 1 year deal 3 million again only if Crawford is done. give marginal raises perlini hayden don t bring back kahun

So if things somewhat right lines might look like this IMO

saad Toews stone

Dcat Strome Kane

Perlini Nelson (fa signing) cagguila


Ferland Kampf Hayden
Martinsin 13th forward

Joki Keith (if not traded)
murphy Myers veteran d man
Dahlstrom seabrook
Gus

Crawford
Delia

Its not great but I don't see Bowman being that aggressive in FA maybe I think ore through trades. Need some more sandpaper type players bowman needs to have balance upfront and on the backend of skill speed grit and physical players.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 13 @ 4:43 PM ET
Let’s see, HOF head coach Q plays 19 year old phenom on the 1st pair in his 1st NHL season, and pairs him with his HOF defenseman.

Jokiharju goes on to have the best underlying stats of any Hawk D man. Plus, he makes every partner that he plays with better.

Jokiharju then leads his home country to the gold medal of the World Juniors, logging the most minutes on his team.

Jokiharju comes back to the Hawks, brimming with confidence. Rookie HC sticks him on the 3rd pair, then decides to experiment with him playing his off side.

Would someone please explain to me what the F JC is doing, and why he is an NHL HC?

- scottak


If anything 7 should play on his offside, hell I'd be okay with 4 forwards and Joki on the ice.

7 isn't even good on the right side
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jan 13 @ 4:48 PM ET
I would say no. Bottom 6, and most likely at center but able to play wing. Potential fixture on the PK and a guy who the coaches may rely on in key defensive situations including to close out games.

Whether or not he earns an A on his jersey, I'd also venture to say he would be a leader in the locker room and a coaches dream (listens to feedback, fulfills his role to a T, does the little things to help the team win).

- AEL_Fox


Sounds good, thanks. I keep hearing hype around him, but didn't actually know the projection. I had heard the easy to coach statement surround him. Also, with other prospects. Very good to hear.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 13 @ 4:48 PM ET
They need to simplify things for Saad. He is built for the power forecheck/go to the net style. He would thrive in the Vegas system. Guy is built like a tank and has great wheels. Vegas again showing that middle of the road top 9 style guys can get it done. Its a team effort. 5 up and 5 back. Hawks team still has not shown the ability to get down low/dirty and really scrap for it. Too many teams apply the physical pressure and the Hawks vanish.
- z1990z


Completely agree, unfortunately sometimes a forward has to dump it in the o zone or realize your best forward has the puck on his stick
and stay on side, i wish he had half the hockey IQ that the Cat has
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jan 13 @ 4:49 PM ET
Sign stone to 6 years 8 -9 million per year trade AA for bottom six help sign a veteran d man and veteran goaltender bring back ward 1 year deal 3 million again only if Crawford is done. give marginal raises perlini hayden don t bring back kahun

So if things somewhat right lines might look like this IMO

saad Toews stone

Dcat Strome Kane

Perlini Nelson (fa signing) cagguila


Ferland Kampf Hayden
Martinsin 13th forward

Joki Keith (if not traded)
murphy Myers veteran d man
Dahlstrom seabrook
Gus

Crawford
Delia

Its not great but I don't see Bowman being that aggressive in FA maybe I think ore through trades. Need some more sandpaper type players bowman needs to have balance upfront and on the backend of skill speed grit and physical players.

- Scott1977

Re-sign Perlini, but don’t bring back Kahun?

Keep the guy who’s shown nothing over the guy who’s shown some ability?

Sounds like a great idea
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jan 13 @ 4:51 PM ET
Sign stone to 6 years 8 -9 million per year trade AA for bottom six help sign a veteran d man and veteran goaltender bring back ward 1 year deal 3 million again only if Crawford is done. give marginal raises perlini hayden don t bring back kahun

So if things somewhat right lines might look like this IMO

saad Toews stone

Dcat Strome Kane

Perlini Nelson (fa signing) cagguila


Ferland Kampf Hayden
Martinsin 13th forward

Joki Keith (if not traded)
murphy Myers veteran d man
Dahlstrom seabrook
Gus

Crawford
Delia

Its not great but I don't see Bowman being that aggressive in FA maybe I think ore through trades. Need some more sandpaper type players bowman needs to have balance upfront and on the backend of skill speed grit and physical players.

- Scott1977


SB needs to be aggressive, because his job is very much on the line. He is clearing space, and I think makes a splash on UFA day or draft day. All signs are pointing to something big.

I would like the additions of Ferland and Myers. There are plenty of good options, some already discussed earlier, but those are also good options.

Kahun looks like he's earned another contract to me.
35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Jan 13 @ 4:52 PM ET
Sign stone to 6 years 8 -9 million per year trade AA for bottom six help sign a veteran d man and veteran goaltender bring back ward 1 year deal 3 million again only if Crawford is done. give marginal raises perlini hayden don t bring back kahun

So if things somewhat right lines might look like this IMO

saad Toews stone

Dcat Strome Kane

Perlini Nelson (fa signing) cagguila


Ferland Kampf Hayden
Martinsin 13th forward

Joki Keith (if not traded)
murphy Myers veteran d man
Dahlstrom seabrook
Gus

Crawford
Delia

Its not great but I don't see Bowman being that aggressive in FA maybe I think ore through trades. Need some more sandpaper type players bowman needs to have balance upfront and on the backend of skill speed grit and physical players.

- Scott1977


I would definitely keep Kahun. Acquitting himself quite well for 1st year on North American ice.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jan 13 @ 5:04 PM ET
If you’re spending $9 mil on a forward, give me Panarin over Stone.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jan 13 @ 5:08 PM ET
Pats-Chargers went as expected.
Eagles-Saints so far, not as expected. 14-0 Philly.
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