If you’re spending $9 mil on a forward, give me Panarin over Stone.
- EnzoD

You can have him. I’d prefer the more complete player...or better yet neither.

You can have him. I’d prefer the more complete player...or better yet neither.
- Ogilthorpe2

Who do you want from UFA day, Ogi? Or would you like to stand pat and draft well?

3rd set of Second City Hockey Top 25 Under 25 list (11-15):

25, Kayumov (rank last time 15)
24, Hayden (11)
23, Hagel (NR)
22, Soderlund (20)
21, Hillman (18)

20, Carlsson (14)
19, Forsling (6)
18, Nordgren (24)
17, Krys (13)
16, Dahlstrom (23)

15, Entwistle (NR)
14, Barratt (NR)
13, Kampf (17)
12, Wise (10)
11, Perlini (NR)

https://www.secondcityhoc...-david-kampf-evan-barratt

Quote from Bowman about Entwistle emphasizes his true value as a potential impact forward that isn't based on offense.

"He’s not just one of these young guys who tries to score all the time,” Bowman said. “He had a pretty good year offensively, but you talk to coaches and they appreciate the way he cares about being on the penalty kill, taking important faceoffs, blocking shots, really supporting his team and not always trying to get the breakaway and score the goal."
- AEL_Fox

Perlini and Wise ranked higher than Kampf? That makes no sense. Perlini plays like he has a dozen eggs in his pants and while I liked the Wise pick, he has done nothing thise season, mostly due to injuries, to even warrant being on the list at this point.

Let’s see, HOF head coach Q plays 19 year old phenom on the 1st pair in his 1st NHL season, and pairs him with his HOF defenseman.

Jokiharju goes on to have the best underlying stats of any Hawk D man. Plus, he makes every partner that he plays with better.

Jokiharju then leads his home country to the gold medal of the World Juniors, logging the most minutes on his team.

Jokiharju comes back to the Hawks, brimming with confidence. Rookie HC sticks him on the 3rd pair, then decides to experiment with him playing his off side.

Would someone please explain to me what the F JC is doing, and why he is an NHL HC?
- scottak

I don't know but its beginning to irritate me. Put Jokesonyou back with Keith. He is the future. Gustafsson isn't. Unless its a 3rd pair sheltered PP guy.

SB needs to be aggressive, because his job is very much on the line. He is clearing space, and I think makes a splash on UFA day or draft day. All signs are pointing to something big.

I would like the additions of Ferland and Myers. There are plenty of good options, some already discussed earlier, but those are also good options.

Kahun looks like he's earned another contract to me.
- I Am The Breadman

You want to sign Myers to contract ~6M for 5 years? How does he look in that regards?

Perlini and Wise ranked higher than Kampf? That makes no sense. Perlini plays like he has a dozen eggs in his pants and while I liked the Wise pick, he has done nothing thise season, mostly due to injuries, to even warrant being on the list at this point.
- Elbows15

You want to sign Myers to contract ~6M for 5 years? How does he look in that regards?
- Elbows15

Is that his asking price? Then that changes....
I want short year deals, until the young guys are ready.

Perlini and Wise ranked higher than Kampf? That makes no sense. Perlini plays like he has a dozen eggs in his pants and while I liked the Wise pick, he has done nothing thise season, mostly due to injuries, to even warrant being on the list at this point.
- Elbows15

Yeah, while I like reading rankings and generally any articles about prospects, I take them with a grain of salt. The SCH list is based on a poll of the 6 writers there and I don't find their writing to be any better than posts I read here so the people there are by no means experts by any stretch. Actually, I find the depth of analysis better here, at least with some of our fellow posters and of course Tyler.

I don't know but its beginning to irritate me. Put Jokesonyou back with Keith. He is the future. Gustafsson isn't. Unless its a 3rd pair sheltered PP guy.
- Elbows15

Agree with both points. Jokiharju needs to be put in a key role and in key situations to continually grow. He's not going to do that playing a dozen minutes a game. His TOI needs to be in the 20 range and deserves to help run the 2nd PP unit.

Gustafsson is an offensive force and PP specialist today and for the next year, especially at his current contract, but don't see him as part of the future blueline. Maybe extend him one more time to a bridge deal especially if the top D prospects aren't ready yet. Cut bait if he asks for the moon, though.

SB needs to be aggressive, because his job is very much on the line. He is clearing space, and I think makes a splash on UFA day or draft day. All signs are pointing to something big.

I would like the additions of Ferland and Myers. There are plenty of good options, some already discussed earlier, but those are also good options.

Kahun looks like he's earned another contract to me.
- I Am The Breadman

I m not as high on kauhn can do better maybe another one year contract he reminds me little hino. Here is a question Panarin or Stone who would you sign?

I m not as high on kauhn can do better maybe another one year contract he reminds me little hino. Here is a question Panarin or Stone who would you sign?
- Scott1977

Panarin is my favorite player, but I say neither.

I like Kahun slotted properly, on the 3rd line.

- EnzoD

That was generous. He sucks.

Is that his asking price? Then that changes....
I want short year deals, until the young guys are ready.
- I Am The Breadman

His cap hit is 5.5M right now. Doubt he isn't looking for some sort of bump. It was a guess on my part as to what he may be thinking. Add in the silly UFA affect and it probably will be higher than my estimate.

You can have him. I’d prefer the more complete player...or better yet neither.
- Ogilthorpe2

Both players are young enough to not be a detriment to a team like the Hawks who are building as a young group. With guys like Debrincat, Strome, Jokiharju and hopefully Mitchell and Boquist soon (plus 2019 top 5 pick)...there’s higher end talent coming. A 7 year deal would run to age 34 for Panarin and 33 for Stone. The hope would be for Saad to actually play like a top 6 winger and produce more offense, but the last 16 months have been VERY discouraging in that regard.

I’d wager that StanBo has his sights set on Panarin-Kane reunion tour. With Murphy progressing, Keith and Seabs likely going nowhere, and elite talent coming up on the blue line... I don’t foresee big money spent on Myers or Erik Karlsson.

William Karlsson will be a UFA too....

That was generous. He sucks.
- Elbows15

I’ve never heard that expression lol...can you elaborate??

Re-sign Perlini, but don’t bring back Kahun?

Keep the guy who’s shown nothing over the guy who’s shown some ability?

Sounds like a great idea
- Ogilthorpe2

My bad did not realize he signed a 2 year contract thought he signed for one year ok pencil him in but would like him in the bottom six think he could be more productive. Sign Panarin or Stone.

I m not as high on kauhn can do better maybe another one year contract he reminds me little hino. Here is a question Panarin or Stone who would you sign?
- Scott1977

But yet you want to sign Perlini and theDrake who bring nothing to the table?

The Hawks aren't in a position to sign either Panarin or Stone. You can't build a winner through free agency. It was hard enough to do without a salary cap. A hard salary cap makes it impossible. You use Free Agency to supplement to your base like the Hawks did with Hossa and Campbell.

His cap hit is 5.5M right now. Doubt he isn't looking for some sort of bump. It was a guess on my part as to what he may be thinking. Add in the silly UFA affect and it probably will be higher than my estimate.
- Elbows15

I thought he was cheaper, but you are right on the crazy higher asking prices. He's on my list, but more on the bottom of it. Depends on what I see SB do.

I’ve never heard that expression lol...can you elaborate??
- EnzoD

He is contact averse for a guy his size.

But yet you want to sign Perlini and theDrake who bring nothing to the table?

The Hawks aren't in a position to sign either Panarin or Stone. You can't build a winner through free agency. It was hard enough to do without a salary cap. A hard salary cap makes it impossible. You use Free Agency to supplement to your base like the Hawks did with Hossa and Campbell.
- Elbows15

While not quite Hossa’s level, Panarin/Stone/EKarlsson are of the same All-Star quality UFAs that provide a massive boost to a team.

Both players are young enough to not be a detriment to a team like the Hawks who are building as a young group. With guys like Debrincat, Strome, Jokiharju and hopefully Mitchell and Boquist soon (plus 2019 top 5 pick)...there’s higher end talent coming. A 7 year deal would run to age 34 for Panarin and 33 for Stone. The hope would be for Saad to actually play like a top 6 winger and produce more offense, but the last 16 months have been VERY discouraging in that regard.

I’d wager that StanBo has his sights set on Panarin-Kane reunion tour. With Murphy progressing, Keith and Seabs likely going nowhere, and elite talent coming up on the blue line... I don’t foresee big money spent on Myers or Erik Karlsson.

William Karlsson will be a UFA too....
- EnzoD

William Karlsson would be great 2nd line center or 3rd line shutdown center but I have to think Vegas will make him a priority to sign him back, but who knows.

While not quite Hossa’s level, Panarin/Stone/EKarlsson are of the same All-Star quality UFAs that provide a massive boost to a team.
- EnzoD

Sure. If you have a nice stable of young players already in house. Hawks are still a bit shy in that department. IMO, the more prudent play is to try to snag a couple of RFAs teams won't be able to sign even if it means taking on a bad contract with little term.

None of those players make the Hawks Cup contenders and by the time the Hawks are ready, they are on the downside of their careers.

I think some posters here will be very disappointed because if Bowman does the correct thing you won't see big name UFAs signed or trades made for star or almost star players. Instead I expect, and hope, to see the Hawks move any of the core players they can as well as older players and try to get as many young roster players, prospects and draft picks as possible. I would also like to see Management take advantage of other team's situations as other teams showed no mercy when the Hawks were up against the cap. I'd like to see the Hawks take on shorter term bad contracts to provide cap relief to other teams, and in return take back that team's best prospects and or take their draft picks.

I think some posters here will be very disappointed because if Bowman does the correct thing you won't see big name UFAs signed or trades made for star or almost star players. Instead I expect, and hope, to see the Hawks move any of the core players they can as well as older players and try to get as many young roster players, prospects and draft picks as possible. I would also like to see Management take advantage of other team's situations as other teams showed no mercy when the Hawks were up against the cap. I'd like to see the Hawks take on shorter term bad contracts to provide cap relief to other teams, and in return take back that team's best prospects and or take their draft picks.
- paulr

Post of the (admittedly young) year.

Dzingel is going to sign this offseason with Chicago, mark my words. Trade Saad for Dutch and extend Dutch.
- Assman22

I think Bowman is going to try to trade for him, maybe not wait till the summer depending on where we are in the standings at the trade deadline. I wouldn’t mind seeing such a thing happen. And lock him before the bidding war this summer. Let him play the last couple of months in front of his people, maybe get him juiced to sign early.