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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 12 @ 12:22 PM ET
Eklund: SO many good Offers for Mark Stone...Need Help...
wbon22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jan 12 @ 12:29 PM ET
mreedjr wins hands down...he is the only one to include autographed memorabilia
James-TFS
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St George, ON
Joined: 07.24.2017

Jan 12 @ 12:42 PM ET
Southstar's offer
Nashville receives:
Matt Duchene
Mark Stone

Ottawa receives:
Kevin Fiala
Eeli Tolvanen
rights to Dante Fabbro
1st round draft pick

This is the best/most realistic of the offers. Nashville loves big deals (Kariya, Forsberg) so this fits with Poille’s mentality
lemieux_66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.27.2012

Jan 12 @ 12:47 PM ET
I like the V for Vanek one which doesn't even have Stone listed in the trade...
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
Eklund: SO many good Offers for Mark Stone...Need Help...
- Eklund


The best offer for Stone is the one that doesn't even include Stone...
Yzerman|sTheMan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 11.16.2017

Jan 12 @ 1:13 PM ET
Southstar's offer
Nashville receives:
Matt Duchene
Mark Stone

Ottawa receives:
Kevin Fiala
Eeli Tolvanen
rights to Dante Fabbro
1st round draft pick

This is the best/most realistic of the offers. Nashville loves big deals (Kariya, Forsberg) so this fits with Poille’s mentality

- James-TFS

Only if at least one of the two is signed.
DEDDIE
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jan 12 @ 1:15 PM ET
Best deal for Sens PROVIDED the Carolina 1st is unconditional:

riceroni's offer:
To Carolina:
- Stone, Dzingel, Boro

To Ottawa:
- Hamilton, Bean, 2019 1st UNconditional

Worst deal for SensKasian is worth a 5th rounder and Puljuarvi too big of a gamble)
Chamber99's offer:
Edmonton - Stone
Ottawa - Kassian and Puljujarvi
pzoxic
Joined: 11.21.2015

Jan 12 @ 1:44 PM ET
M*A*S*H your delusional!! treliving would be an idiot to do that! You have it wrong he’s not chiarelli!!
MABster
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jan 12 @ 1:53 PM ET
There's no way that Mike Stone and Mark Stone are going to swap teams and not end up on the same roster together.
So if Ottawa will take Mike Stone then it's because they want it as incentive to resign Mark.
I don't see Neal and Ottawa being a good fit, either.

The best way to move Neal is in a three-way, with Vegas.

Neal to Vegas, Stone to Calgary, Stastny to Ottawa
Add minor picks and conditions, where required, to make things fair all around.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Loss Counter: 10 to miss playoff, PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 12 @ 1:58 PM ET
Southstar's offer
Nashville receives:
Matt Duchene
Mark Stone

Ottawa receives:
Kevin Fiala
Eeli Tolvanen
rights to Dante Fabbro
1st round draft pick

This is the best/most realistic of the offers. Nashville loves big deals (Kariya, Forsberg) so this fits with Poille’s mentality

- James-TFS


Agreed. I really don't see many realistic proposals in the bunch.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jan 12 @ 2:00 PM ET
Southstar's offer
Nashville receives:
Matt Duchene
Mark Stone

Ottawa receives:
Kevin Fiala
Eeli Tolvanen
rights to Dante Fabbro
1st round draft pick

This is the best/most realistic of the offers. Nashville loves big deals (Kariya, Forsberg) so this fits with Poille’s mentality

- James-TFS
Agreed

Still don't think it's enough if Stone is included; especially after what happened with Karlsson. That said, don't doubt Dorion maybe being pressured into this with an absent owner and need to get return. Again I'd rather retain Stone and trade players like Dzingel, Smith, Boedker, Tierney over the next 12 months
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Loss Counter: 10 to miss playoff, PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 12 @ 2:04 PM ET
Agreed

Still don't think it's enough if Stone is included; especially after what happened with Karlsson. That said, don't doubt Dorion maybe being pressured into this with an absent owner and need to get return. Again I'd rather retain Stone and trade players like Dzingel, Smith, Boedker, Tierney over the next 12 months

- AlfieisKing


Ottawa doesn't have much say into that, if they wanted to keep him they had the chance to re-sign for a longer term instead they low balled him.

If you think 4 1st round picks (3 solid prospects and a 1st) is not enough for two UFA players then you will be disappointed no matter what.
GSimp1
St Louis Blues
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jan 12 @ 2:20 PM ET
Most of those offers suck balls!
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jan 12 @ 2:26 PM ET
Most of those offers suck balls!
- GSimp1

yes but we must play along
GSimp1
St Louis Blues
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jan 12 @ 2:45 PM ET
yes but we must play along
- DeflatedPucks


Good point. Ek put so much time and effort into this whole thing!
Tebeaune
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.13.2018

Jan 12 @ 3:12 PM ET
The Edmonton offer is a joke. Kassian is a nut job and Puljujarvi is an AHL'er at best. Try RNH and a 1st round pick for starters.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 12 @ 3:14 PM ET
The Edmonton offer is a joke. Kassian is a nut job and Puljujarvi is an AHL'er at best. Try RNH and a 1st round pick for starters.
- Tebeaune


For a rental eh?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jan 12 @ 3:16 PM ET
MASH is Neuvirth's account.
Tebeaune
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.13.2018

Jan 12 @ 3:19 PM ET
For a rental eh?
- obie


Kassian isn't wanted by any team. The Oilers told him to talk to teams earlier in the year because he wanted out- no one bit. Puljujarvi isn't close to being enough for Stone.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 12 @ 3:22 PM ET
Kassian isn't wanted by any team. The Oilers told him to talk to teams earlier in the year because he wanted out- no one bit. Puljujarvi isn't close to being enough for Stone.
- Tebeaune


Not debating what isnt enough, but RNH + a 1st for 3 months of Stone for a team that's not even in the playoffs as we speak, that's a reasonable proposal?
khawk
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Jan 12 @ 3:24 PM ET
1. Most of those offers are pretty bad.
2. How can this list include both of these offers?

TO EDM: Stone
TO OTT : Puljujarvi, Kassian

TO EDM: Stone
TO OTT: Puljujarvi, Nurse, 1st-2019, Sekera


obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 12 @ 3:25 PM ET
1. Most of those offers are pretty bad.
2. How can this list include both of these offers?

TO EDM: Stone
TO OTT : Puljujarvi, Kassian

TO EDM: Stone
TO OTT: Puljujarvi, Nurse, 1st-2019, Sekera

- khawk


I agree with 1 & 2... with the 2nd being extremely laughable
Tebeaune
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.13.2018

Jan 12 @ 3:28 PM ET
Not debating what isnt enough, but RNH + a 1st for 3 months of Stone for a team that's not even in the playoffs as we speak, that's a reasonable proposal?
- obie


1) If Stone gets to play with McDavid he may well want that to continue and sign longer term.

2) Stone on McDavid's wing most likely gets them to the playoffs.

3) Now you can play Draisitl as second line center and have two legit top lines.
jbclark
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.10.2006

Jan 12 @ 3:32 PM ET
Neither Calgary offer makes ANY sense and the Oiler offer is nuts, Ottawa would just be "giving" Stone away. The only two that make ANY sense out of all of these is either the Carolina offer or the Nashville one, and those two would need some tweaking.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 12 @ 3:33 PM ET
1) If Stone gets to play with McDavid he may well want that to continue and sign longer term.

2) Stone on McDavid's wing most likely gets them to the playoffs.

3) Now you can play Draisitl as second line center and have two legit top lines.

- Tebeaune


4) The fact that you're completely ignoring the question leads me to believe that you're also very aware it was a ballsack of a proposal... sweaty ballsack!

Would you give up an established, signed top 6 forward + a 1st for a rental? ... a simple NO will do!
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