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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Feb 6 @ 2:23 PM ET
It will be a giant sack punch to leaf fan if they lose Marner.
- Pet.m.d.


There is NO WAY they lose Marner...they may have to give up other assets for less then they want, but Marner will be signed no matter what.
Pet.m.d.
Location: Buckeye, AZ
Joined: 06.29.2017

Feb 6 @ 2:27 PM ET
There is NO WAY they lose Marner...they may have to give up other assets for less then they want, but Marner will be signed no matter what.
- Glak18


Maybe, but you don't let that kid walk. I think the leafs would be in the same spot standings wise without Tavares..we'll see I guess, might want Dubas to blow his load and go all in for this year, might be their best look at it.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Feb 6 @ 2:34 PM ET
Maybe, but you don't let that kid walk. I think the leafs would be in the same spot standings wise without Tavares..we'll see I guess, might want Dubas to blow his load and go all in for this year, might be their best look at it.
- Pet.m.d.

That’s your dream scenario but unfortunately for you none of that is going to happen. And in what world does the 30 goals by Tavares not matter to the Leafs?
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 6 @ 2:34 PM ET
Maybe, but you don't let that kid walk. I think the leafs would be in the same spot standings wise without Tavares..we'll see I guess, might want Dubas to blow his load and go all in for this year, might be their best look at it.
- Pet.m.d.


he's an RFA, he can't walk

they either sign him (99.9% what will happen)

or they trade him for a monster return

the only asset they have that can clear enough cap room for them to have a full roster next year, that isn't reliant on like 4 guys, is to trade Nylander.

I suppose you could also move guys like kadri, but he's on such a team friendly contract that it doesn't seem worth it, given how little they'd actually save.

that Marleau contract is such a kick in the ass
Kyleponi23
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Renfrew, ON
Joined: 01.10.2013

Feb 6 @ 2:35 PM ET
I don't even think Horton's contract is on LTIR yet. The plan is to get passed the Marleau deal this upcoming season (6.25M) Hence why they couldn't buy any UFA years from Matthews.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Feb 6 @ 2:37 PM ET
Toronto has Matthews for at least 5 more seasons... Nothing to be sad about ... Great days ahead for Toronto fans
- pwasil7

They’ll be sad if there are no cups during those 5 years and he ends up walking for whatever reason.
I think they’ll win at least 1 though. I’ll say in 2 years 21/22 season. I think TB, NSH or WPG win this year. If one wins and the other 2 don’t, i say one of the other 2, 1 will win next year and TOR the next. I should put money on TOR now! 😱
MrBen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.22.2010

Feb 6 @ 2:39 PM ET
I love all the "it's obvious to everyone but Leaf fans that they can't sign these guys now".

Did you guys miss the TSN breakdown of exactly how they can afford all these guys along with projected salaries? Unless you're under the impression that them being off by 100k on the Matthews deal is the straw that broke the camel's back?
The crunch is also only for one year and then Marleau's 6.25 comes off as well.

I know that no one wants to see the Leafs do well but so far Dubas has made all the right moves and it drives people crazy.

P.S. Nylander won't be traded and having him locked at under 7 million is going to be a total bargain.
NewfieStud
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 6 @ 2:40 PM ET
You cant afford to keep nylander. The whole world knows it. You will have 10 million in cap room to sign at 8 players. Including Kappanen, marner and Johnsson. Marner will cost at least 10 million him self. Even if you get rid of horton contract, you still cant afford him.
- BigDog912


Well maybe so....nothing I will lose sleep over....seems like a lot of non-Leaf fans go to bed every night stressing over there cap situation and got themselves convinced be damned...that they can't keep em all! But if you thoroughly read my original post I did mention that I think Kappanen will be traded this Summer.
NewfieStud
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 6 @ 2:42 PM ET
They’ll be sad if there are no cups during those 5 years and he ends up walking for whatever reason.
I think they’ll win at least 1 though. I’ll say in 2 years 21/22 season. I think TB, NSH or WPG win this year. If one wins and the other 2 don’t, i say one of the other 2, 1 will win next year and TOR the next. I should put money on TOR now! 😱

- KINGS67


That's the risk you take by signing players that you think will give you the best chance. Nothing is guaranteed. I'll be satisfied with one...because it's one more than I thought I would see in my life time!
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 6 @ 2:43 PM ET
I love all the "it's obvious to everyone but Leaf fans that they can't sign these guys now".

Did you guys miss the TSN breakdown of exactly how they can afford all these guys along with projected salaries? Unless you're under the impression that them being off by 100k on the Matthews deal is the straw that broke the camel's back?
The crunch is also only for one year and then Marleau's 6.25 comes off as well.

I know that no one wants to see the Leafs do well but so far Dubas has made all the right moves and it drives people crazy.

P.S. Nylander won't be traded and having him locked at under 7 million is going to be a total bargain.

- MrBen

Leafs are in cap hell buddy.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Feb 6 @ 2:46 PM ET
That's the risk you take by signing players that you think will give you the best chance. Nothing is guaranteed. I'll be satisfied with one...because it's one more than I thought I would see in my life time!
- NewfieStud

As a kings fan I understand. I didn’t think I’d ever see 1 cup let alone 2.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Feb 6 @ 2:48 PM ET
Leafs are in cap hell buddy.
- Feds91Stammer

If this is hell who needs heaven?
MrBen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.22.2010

Feb 6 @ 2:48 PM ET
Leafs are in cap hell buddy.
- Feds91Stammer


It's fine to be clueless and keep regurgitating this nonsense but at least try "buddy". I'm sure you're better than that.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 6 @ 2:49 PM ET
It's fine to be clueless and keep regurgitating this nonsense but at least try "buddy". I'm sure you're better than that.
- MrBen

I am not clueless and I am not a Leaf hater but I do know how to do basic math...
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Feb 6 @ 2:49 PM ET
Leafs are in cap hell buddy.
- Feds91Stammer

Now that they've set the bar, your team and 30 more will be. Depending if you want to be competitive, that is.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 6 @ 2:49 PM ET
If this is hell who needs heaven?
- shack67

It is definitely not a bad thing.
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Feb 6 @ 2:52 PM ET
Well maybe so....nothing I will lose sleep over....seems like a lot of non-Leaf fans go to bed every night stressing over there cap situation and got themselves convinced be damned...that they can't keep em all! But if you thoroughly read my original post I did mention that I think Kappanen will be traded this Summer.
- NewfieStud

Kappy goin' no ware.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 6 @ 2:52 PM ET
Now that they've set the bar, your team and 30 more will be. Depending if you want to be competitive, that is.
- Leafsmart

Is a 2-1-1 record against TOR competitive?
MrBen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.22.2010

Feb 6 @ 2:53 PM ET
I am not clueless and I am not a Leaf hater but I do know how to do basic math...
- Feds91Stammer


You keep saying this BS but not backing it up with anything. I'm not going to do your homework for you but the info is out there.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 6 @ 2:55 PM ET
You keep saying this BS but not backing it up with anything. I'm not going to do your homework for you but the info is out there.
- MrBen

Keep saying?

I made 1 post...

You seem very offended. Get back to your safe space.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Feb 6 @ 2:55 PM ET
It is definitely not a bad thing.
- Feds91Stammer

What I would consider cap hell would be a bad team with no cap space, like the Oilers. But according to their blogger as long as we admit that McDavid is better than Matthews then all is well.
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Feb 6 @ 2:55 PM ET
Is a 2-1-1 record against TOR competitive?
- Feds91Stammer

Fantastic. See ya in the play-offs.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 6 @ 2:56 PM ET
What I would consider cap hell would be a bad team with no cap space, like the Oilers. But according to their blogger as long as we admit that McDavid is better than Matthews then all is well.
- shack67

So Detroit?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 6 @ 2:56 PM ET
Fantastic. See ya in the play-offs.
- Leafsmart

Sorry I won't be there. Too busy getting Hughes and Lafreniere.
MrBen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.22.2010

Feb 6 @ 2:57 PM ET
Keep saying?

I made 1 post...

You seem very offended. Get back to your safe space.

- Feds91Stammer


People just don't even try anymore. You hear one mutt mention something about "cap hell" and everyone runs with it like it must be true. Unless Marner is signing in excess of 10 million per year, they'll be fine.
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