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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 7 @ 4:29 PM ET
Hey it's me from the future.

Turns out Stanley did suck.

- sparky1957 future

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Feb 7 @ 4:33 PM ET
Solid. Top full time AHLer in goals under age of 20.
- Feds91Stammer


How many 19 year olds in the AHL?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 7 @ 4:36 PM ET
How many 19 year olds in the AHL?
- Glak18

Not too many but in looking at AHL stats it is not wise to compare stats from a 19 year old playing 12 mins to a 23-24 year old playing 19 mins.

Other U20s in AHL: Kaut, Necas, Kostin, Andersson, Tolvanen, Yammamot, Lind, etc.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 7 @ 4:36 PM ET
How many 19 year olds in the AHL?
- Glak18

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DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Feb 7 @ 4:38 PM ET
This would be awesome for the Jets but ONLY if somehow possible to extend Stone in the off-season. Not sure you can swing it unless Jets trade Kulikov, Perreault, and maybe even Little this summer, which will be a challenging feat. And it's doubtful Myers, Tanev, Copp are affordable with the dollars Winnipeg may need to spend on their 3 big RFA's. Trouba, Connor, and Laine are potentially going to cost the Jets $25 million! . . . Is Trouba gone? Are any of them expendable??

Just for kicks, what if Winnipeg and Carolina got together . . .

To Carolina:
- Patrick Laine
- 2020 3rd Round pick
- a conditional 3rd Rnd pick in 2021 (they ONLY receive this pick if Winnipeg receives Carolina's 1st Rounder—see below)

To Winnipeg:
- Andrei Svechnikov
- Brett Pesce (prefer Slavin if deal made pre-deadline--adjust draft picks accordingly)
- 2020 1st Round pick
- a conditional 2nd Round pick in 2021 (pick becomes a 1st Rounder if Laine scores 50 or wins the Rocket Richard trophy this year or next)

. . . Rationale:

- Carolina gets the best player in the deal, an elite goal scorer whom will probably thrive next to his fellow countrymen playmakers, Aho & Terevainen. This would have to be an exciting possibility for Carolina to consider!

- Winnipeg receives a goal scorer with elite potential whom is cost-controlled (ELC) for 2 years (save mention Svechnikov's connection to Dale Hawerchuk and the scouting reports of his tremendous work ethic). Couple that potential and cost savings with either Slavin--whom would solidify the Jets on left D for years--or Pesce, who is a solid and affordable, right shot D-man that can mitigate the potential loss(es) of Trouba and/or Myers this off-season. And getting one, potentially two 1st round picks, would sort of "soften" the loss of what could be 35-50 goals from Patrick Laine! (though probably not!!)

I know this is unthinkable and the Jets might be nuts to do this (and I'm sure I'll be labeled nuts for suggesting it!), but do they really want to pay Patrick Laine $10 million plus as it appears the market will dictate?? . . . Regardless of whom they do or do not add at the deadline??? Even if a trade for Stone included salary going Ottawa's way, could the Jets not use the money it will cost them to extend Laine to sign Stone instead, and perhaps preserve some of their current depth also?

You would think the Jets would acquire Stone only if confident he doesn't walk just like Stastny. The cost to trade for Stone, to me, should be determined on how they see their $$ being spent next year. Because no player added now guarantees a cup now.


Would enjoy some (friendly) feedback!

- Quillanrocks


If the WPG 2020 3rd was a 2019 1st I think its a fair deal.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Feb 7 @ 4:42 PM ET
Ain't going to happen. We don't need a winger and this is a huge overpayment.
- sparky1957


I dont think Petan and Stanley have huge value right now so don't see that as an overpayment TBH.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Feb 7 @ 5:09 PM ET
Not too many but in looking at AHL stats it is not wise to compare stats from a 19 year old playing 12 mins to a 23-24 year old playing 19 mins.

Other U20s in AHL: Kaut, Necas, Kostin, Andersson, Tolvanen, Yammamot, Lind, etc.

- Feds91Stammer


Not comparing at all, but who leads the league in goals who are left handed under the age of 21 and wears Jorts daily?
Finnisher29
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 05.17.2017

Feb 7 @ 5:10 PM ET
Not sure why some people feel adding Logan Stanley to a deal would be overpayment. At best he's a 5/6 pairing stay at home D-man and I don't even think he's in the top 3 as far as Jets D prospects go. I'd put him way behind Niku, Samberg and Poolman
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Feb 7 @ 5:14 PM ET
Not sure why some people feel adding Logan Stanley to a deal would be overpayment. At best he's a 5/6 pairing stay at home D-man and I don't even think he's in the top 3 as far as Jets D prospects go. I'd put him way behind Niku, Samberg and Poolman
- Finnisher29


Logan Stanley
Stanley Kubrick
Paul Stanley

for

Stone
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 7 @ 5:17 PM ET
Not comparing at all, but who leads the league in goals who are left handed under the age of 21 and wears Jorts daily?
- Glak18

Some Russian kid named German
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 7 @ 5:17 PM ET
Not sure why some people feel adding Logan Stanley to a deal would be overpayment. At best he's a 5/6 pairing stay at home D-man and I don't even think he's in the top 3 as far as Jets D prospects go. I'd put him way behind Niku, Samberg and Poolman
- Finnisher29

Get out of here with your logic.
Quillanrocks
Location: Courtenay, BC
Joined: 07.22.2013

Feb 7 @ 5:33 PM ET
If the WPG 2020 3rd was a 2019 1st I think its a fair deal.
- DEDDIE


If the deal is for Slavin and not Pesce, I could see them parting with a 1st instead, but still probably needs to be in 2020, assuming Jets use this years to load up for a cup run. (?)
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Feb 7 @ 5:35 PM ET
Some Russian kid named German
- Feds91Stammer


Take it back! He does not wear Jorts!
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 7 @ 5:55 PM ET
You still crusty, bro? Lmao Holy FRANK. Grow up.
- PavohnDatsvares


Crusty about what? Have I upset you in the past?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 7 @ 6:35 PM ET


include schieffle and laine and I might consider it

in all seriousness dude, that deal is insane.

take out Ehlers and maybe you have the beginning of negotiation

- sensarmy_11


Still thinking Crosby Malin, McJezus, Mztthews and Marner, plus next 4 yezrs #1 from each team for Stone, lol.
Jesus Christ dude your valuation us friggin out there...
Send me some of that poop, PLEASE!
BlackhawkMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.30.2011

Feb 7 @ 6:43 PM ET
Habs and Rangers Talking? To each other, to themselves, to whom???
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 7 @ 6:56 PM ET
you also do not understand why people do not like Trump either

right ?

- Xizord

Leave politics out of hockey dumbass. You want sports and politics? Watch football
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Feb 7 @ 7:13 PM ET
Stastny cost the Jets a first and Foley (B prospect). Are Duchene or Stone better than Stastny, yes but not astronomically so stop assuming the cost will be astronomically more!!!

I can see Ottawa also wanting Eric Comrie as part of the package.

bluestar
Location: ON
Joined: 12.20.2015

Feb 7 @ 7:16 PM ET
Zuccarello would add some much needed size to the Habs.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 7 @ 7:35 PM ET


picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Feb 7 @ 7:45 PM ET
Leave politics out of hockey dumbass. You want sports and politics? Watch football
- BluesDroogie


Trigger warning
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 7 @ 7:49 PM ET
Still thinking Crosby Malin, McJezus, Mztthews and Marner, plus next 4 yezrs #1 from each team for Stone, lol.
Jesus Christ dude your valuation us friggin out there...
Send me some of that poop, PLEASE!

- IonSabres




says the guy who offered SJ 1st, Scandela, and Alex Nylander for an extended Mark Stone .
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 7 @ 8:26 PM ET
Trigger warning
- picklerick

What's that? Some kind of new fangled millenial term?
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 7 @ 8:31 PM ET
What's that? Some kind of new fangled millenial term?
- BluesDroogie


Can't be, there isn't a # in front of it
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Feb 7 @ 8:57 PM ET
What's that? Some kind of new fangled millenial term?
- BluesDroogie


It’s almost like as time goes on.... things change? Crazy millennials putting two existing words next to each other in a context that makes sense

Edit: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/trigger-warning

Think it was those damn gen x’ers
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